What Will The NCAA Do to Penn State After The Sandusky Trial?

[venture]

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/23...ion/?hpt=hp_t1

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...ling-penalties

"The NCAA imposed a $60 million sanction on the university, which is equivalent to the average gross annual revenue of the football program. These funds must be paid into an endowment for external programs preventing child sexual abuse or assisting victims and may not be used to fund such programs at the university. The sanctions also include a four-year football postseason ban and a vacation of all wins from 1998 through 2011. The career record of former head football coach Joe Paterno will reflect these vacated records. Penn State must also reduce 10 initial and 20 total scholarships each year for a four-year period. In addition, the NCAA reserves the right to impose additional sanctions on involved individuals at the conclusion of any criminal proceedings."

Big Ten is set to announce its own penalties later today.

[onthestrip]

I dont have a problem with the NCAA vacating wins and fining them $60 mil but it does suck for current players who had nothing to do with it the tragic events to be punished like they are.

[Just the facts]

Current players are free to leave. If they choose to maintain a relationship with Penn St that is their choice. Some people chose to stay aboard the Titanic also.

[venture]

I dont have a problem with the NCAA vacating wins and fining them $60 mil but it does suck for current players who had nothing to do with it the tragic events to be punished like they are.

Yeah. Though the players are now free to transfer without restrictions and schools that take them ( as it is appearing now) will be able to have the scholarship limit waived. Though there are some players that are just going on and taking this as a rallying cry to fight back. Completely the wrong attitude to have, IMO, when it comes to the situation. Those would be kids that I would definitely not want to have in my program.

[venture]

Big Ten apparently has now banned Penn State from the Big Ten title game for 4 years. They also will not receive the bowl game revenue for four years, which is $15M a year.

[kevinpate]

Big Ten apparently has now banned Penn State from the Big Ten title game for 4 years. They also will not receive the bowl game revenue for four years, which is $15M a year.

In light of the lost scholarships, immediate and future, and the possibility (probability?) of players transferring to other programs, the title game ban seems of little import. Hitting the program's pocket book, in an amount equal to the ncaa fine, would serve to sting a fair degree.

[venture]

So more specifics...

The Big Ten penalties will be for $13 a year and will be donated to children's charities.

The NCAA scholarship penalty is for 10 initial and 20 total each year for a four year period. So only 15 freshman may be offered them (down from 25) and only 65 total per year (down from 85).

[ljbab728]

A few in the Penn State heirarchy are just determined to not let this die.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ederal-lawsuit

A Penn State board of trustee member filed an appeal Monday afternoon with the NCAA over sanctions levied against the university after the Jerry Sandusky child sex-abuse scandal.


Three other trustees joined the appeal, which states that the consent decree university president Rodney Erickson signed with the NCAA agreeing to the sanctions is "null and void" because Erickson "lacked the legal authority" to enter into such an agreement without the board's approval.

[venture]

Wow they are stupid. Sure...go ahead and tell the NCAA that the previous agreement doesn't mean anything. Then see how well they deal with a 4-year Death Penalty.

[BoulderSooner]

Wow they are stupid. Sure...go ahead and tell the NCAA that the previous agreement doesn't mean anything. Then see how well they deal with a 4-year Death Penalty.

that was a threat without much to back it up .. the NCAA president doesn't have the power to impose sanctions ...(he only could against penn st because they agreed that he could) ...

[ljbab728]

that was a threat without much to back it up .. the NCAA president doesn't have the power to impose sanctions ...(he only could against penn st because they agreed that he could) ...

It wasn't just a threat from the NCAA president.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...-death-penalty

If Penn State had not accepted the package of NCAA sanctions announced Monday, the Nittany Lions faced a historic death penalty of four years, university president Rodney Erickson told "Outside the Lines" on Wednesday afternoon.

In a separate interview, NCAA president Mark Emmert confirmed that a core group of NCAA school presidents had agreed early last week that an appropriate punishment was no Penn State football for four years.

Emmert told Erickson in a phone conversation on July 17 that a majority of the NCAA's leadership wanted to levy the four-year penalty because of Penn State's leaders' roles in covering up the child sexual abuse of former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky.

[BoulderSooner]

It wasn't just a threat from the NCAA president.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...-death-penalty

the NCAA leadership .. doesn't impose sanctions either .... they have a very set procedure they didn't follow it ... which doesn't matter because penn st president signed the agreement ... unless he didn't have the authority to sign the deal ....

[MustangGT]

Wow they are stupid. Sure...go ahead and tell the NCAA that the previous agreement doesn't mean anything. Then see how well they deal with a 4-year Death Penalty.

Which is what should have happened to begin with.

[ljbab728]

the NCAA leadership .. doesn't impose sanctions either .... they have a very set procedure they didn't follow it ... which doesn't matter because penn st president signed the agreement ... unless he didn't have the authority to sign the deal ....

Please note this.

http://ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/publ...ocess/Charging

The only thing the NCAA didn't do was conduct their own investigation. They accepted the Freeh Report as the completed investigation. It clearly states that if the school accepts the findings it goes directly to the "summary dispostion". They don't have to go before a committee. That is what transpired. The only issue is if the school president was authorized to accept the punishment for the school.

[Just the facts]

Clearly Penn State fans aren't getting the message. They really do need to be beaten into submission.

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...states-campus/

PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — The recent sanctions against Penn State University and its football program have left many people upset and some have decided to take their frustrations out on the NCAA.

The Student Bookstore, an independent Penn State store just off campus, is selling t-shirts dubbed the “NCAA Overstepping” shirt.

What has caught people’s attention is that the front of the shirt reads: “NCAA National Communist Athletic Association,” with the “C” designed to look like the Communist symbol.

[ljbab728]

Clearly Penn State fans aren't getting the message. They really do need to be beaten into submission.

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...states-campus/

Of course there's nothing to keep the school from leaving the NCAA organization that so many of them hold in disdain. Let's see how that works out for those fans.

[bluedogok]

The NAIA would probably welcome them......

[Just the facts]

Of course there's nothing to keep the school from leaving the NCAA organization that so many of them hold in disdain. Let's see how that works out for those fans.

If nothing else it will save them $40 million right off the top.

[ljbab728]

I tried to put this in a new thread but for some reason new threads aren't working tonight. If the moderators can change it to a new thread that would be great.

While it can't compare to Penn State's problems, it looks like UT may be having issues of their own.

Texas' Applewhite had 'inappropriate, consensual relationship' with student - CBSSports.com

The Texas Board of Regents has called an emergency meeting for February 3

He has always seemed to have a squeeky clean image but that may be about ready to change.

There is little in the way of details but it will probably come out.

As to why this is a story after it happened four years ago.

If you’re wondering why the story is coming out now if it took place in 2009, we have some ideas.


Former Texas women’s track and field coach Bev Kearney resigned last month after she was investigated for having a sexual relationship with one of her athletes in 2002.

Kearney’s attorney says the woman with whom his client had an affair came forward about the inappropriate relationship at a time when Kearney was about to ask the school for a $150,000/year raise and new five-year deal. According to CNN, Kearney and her attorney, Derek A. Howard, were planning to discuss her legal options. He said they were considering a gender and race bias lawsuit.

CNN reported that Howard planned to file open-records requests with the school in early January. He reportedly claimed that male coaches and professors at the school had similar relationships and weren’t punished.

Rather than have the news about Applewhite emerge through Howard, Texas probably felt it would be best to get in front of the story by releasing the statements. They also probably felt going public with the story would discount Howard’s gender bias claim.