Let's be fair: Ben & Jerry's Supports Gay Marriage

[bucktalk]

Just wondering....those who are in favor of boycotting Chick Fil A for their political stand of 'traditional' marriage -- think its perfectly fair for those who don't agree with same sex marriage to boycott Ben & Jerry's and other companies for supporting gay marriage? I just wonder if the somewhat hostile attitude of those who support same sex marriage would be just as passionate in support of others who might disagree with companies who support same sex marriage. I doubt it. But fair is fair...right?

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/ben-j...age-with-a-new

[CaptDave]

It is a fair question. A little tolerance on both sides would go a long way.....

[Roadhawg]

I don't have a hostile attitude of those who don't support same sex marriage and I don't agree with the all that's going on with CFA. I think it's a free speech issue with CFA and I do support the owners right to voice his thoughts. I don't agree with him and I choose not to use his business. If folks feel strong about being against same sex marriage then they are free to not use the business that do support it.

[kevinpate]

Eat where ya want. Don't eat where ya don't wanna eat.
Way too easy a decision, for anyone.

[bandnerd]

If those who want to boycott do so, then more ice cream for me!

[wallbreaker]

Tolerance for the bullies is one thing, and tolerance for the victims are another. But eat where you want and let history judge.

[RadicalModerate]

Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream is OverPriced and OverRated.
It is unfair to compare any Ice Cream using Ben and Jerry's as a Standard.
In fact, they lose points for OverCuteness in Naming.
(the Tappet Bros. are making a legal move to stop the madness)

[ljbab728]

Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream is OverPriced and OverRated.
It is unfair to compare any Ice Cream using Ben and Jerry's as a Standard.
In fact, they lose points for OverCuteness in Naming.
(the Tappet Bros. are making a legal move to stop the madness)

I don't remember this topic being a discussion about the quality of ice cream or brand names.

[RadicalModerate]

I don't remember this topic being a discussion about the quality of ice cream or brand names.

Sorry . . . Allow me to simplify the concept for you without appearing to be patronizing: I don't support or boycott any provider of good stuff based on their corporate relationship to social/personal issues outside of my enjoyment of that product. Sorry to make something so simple so confusing to . . . well . . . you . . . and/or others with apparently/self admitted short term/long impact memory deficits. =)

Even if Ben and Jerry's wasn't overpriced and overrated I wouldn't care one way or the other about their "corporate stance" on "gay issues".

geez.....

[ljbab728]

Sorry . . . Allow me to simplifiy the concept for you: I don't support or boycott any provider of good stuff based on their corporate relationship to social/personal issues outside of my enjoyment of that product. Sorry to make something so simple so confusing to . . . well . . . you . . . and/or others with apparently/self admitted short term/long impact memory deficits. =)

Even if Ben and Jerry's wasn't overpriced and overrated I wouldn't care one way or the other about their "corporate stance" on "gay issues".

geez.....

There was nothing complicated about your comment. You were talking about the quality of ice cream and their name which was off subject. Thanks for trying to clarify anyway.

[RadicalModerate]

are we done now?.....

[ljbab728]

are we done now?.....

I am if you are.

[shriekingviolet]

I just wonder if the somewhat hostile attitude of those who support same sex marriage would be just as passionate in support of others who might disagree with companies who support same sex marriage. I doubt it. But fair is fair...right?

Of course it's fair. People are entitled to vote their beliefs with their pocketbooks no matter what their opinion. When companies don't just voice their opinions on individual topics, but give corporate profits to activist organizations devoted to their pet causes (as both CFA & Ben&Jerry's do) it's more than just a speech issue. By supporting their business, you're helping drive money toward a cause. I think it's perfectly sensible to ask yourself and like-minded people if continuing to support a business that spends money advocating causes you find abhorrent is something you really ought to be doing.

That said, recognizing the value in a tactic is not the same thing as respecting the sentiment behind it. You can, say, find the Southern Baptist Convention's old boycott of Disney for providing domestic partner benefits bigoted and offensive while still believing that the SBC had every right to call for the boycott in the first place.

[rcjunkie]

I'm going to leave the comfy confines of my Lake Cabin today and drive to Tulsa. Have a Chic-Fil-A sandwich and a tub of Ben & Jerry's Coffee Heath Bar Crunch Ice Cream--What a Country.

[boscorama]

Amen.

[bucktalk]

With the exception of the crazed Westboro Baptist Church bunch -you seldom hear of such hostility from 'Christians' regarding a very large number of companies that SUPPORT same sex marriage. Yet, because ONE company president states his belief against same sex marriage, the hostility among some mayors, media talking heads and others to ONE company compared to dozens and dozens of pro-same sex marriage companies seems to be way, way, way out of proportion. I realize we don't live in a 'fair' culture. But this entire Chick Fil A fiasco seems to be quite unfair in hostility. Its just my opinion....

[metro]

With the exception of the crazed Westboro Baptist Church bunch -you seldom hear of such hostility from 'Christians' regarding a very large number of companies that SUPPORT same sex marriage. Yet, because ONE company president states his belief against same sex marriage, the hostility among some mayors, media talking heads and others to ONE company compared to dozens and dozens of pro-same sex marriage companies seems to be way, way, way out of proportion. I realize we don't live in a 'fair' culture. But this entire Chick Fil A fiasco seems to be quite unfair in hostility. Its just my opinion....

Bravo!

[Bunty]

With the exception of the crazed Westboro Baptist Church bunch -you seldom hear of such hostility from 'Christians' regarding a very large number of companies that SUPPORT same sex marriage. Yet, because ONE company president states his belief against same sex marriage, the hostility among some mayors, media talking heads and others to ONE company compared to dozens and dozens of pro-same sex marriage companies seems to be way, way, way out of proportion. I realize we don't live in a 'fair' culture. But this entire Chick Fil A fiasco seems to be quite unfair in hostility. Its just my opinion....

True. Other Christian organizations, such as the American Family Association, still advocate boycotts against pro gay companies, but are seldom in the news for doing so. I think the irritation against Chick-fil-a is more from it donating to anti-gay causes than the free speech aspect of it.

[BBatesokc]

I personally don't get any of it and find it all pretty hypocritical.

There are many, MANY companies whose actual business practices are far more directly detrimental to individuals.

Ever watch any documentaries over the bloodshed just so we can have $.47/lb bananas? Or the number of companies that use basically slave labor to produce cheap clothing and electronics and even brooms? The list goes on and on..... so I'm not about to get upset because someone is asked a direct question and gives an honest answer. The company has NEVER hidden its Christian roots, so for this to be an issue now is simply one side taking advantage of the simplemindedness of our population in general.

[bucktalk]

True. Other Christian organizations, such as the American Family Association, still advocate boycotts against pro gay companies, but are seldom in the news for doing so. I think the irritation against Chick-fil-a is more from it donating to anti-gay causes than the free speech aspect of it.

I understand. But how does the Chick Fil A contribution to support 'traditional' marriage compared to...say...the owner of Amazon who recently gave well over one million dollars to support same sex marriage?? And yet the hostility from pro-traditional marriage supporters isn't a bleep on the radar screen toward Amazon!!! I sense the amount of hostility thrown toward the 'traditional' marriage statement shows how unfair, LACK of tolerance many gay supporters apparently have. It seems like those demanding tolerance are very much intolerant as clearly demonstrated by the Chick Fil A fiasco.

[Easy180]

I think the irritation against Chick-fil-a is more from it donating to anti-gay causes than the free speech aspect of it.

This ^ is why a lot of folks are/were upset

[Easy180]

I understand. But how does the Chick Fil A contribution to support 'traditional' marriage compared to...say...the owner of Amazon who recently gave well over one million dollars to support same sex marriage?? And yet the hostility from pro-traditional marriage supporters isn't a bleep on the radar screen toward Amazon!!! I sense the amount of hostility thrown toward the 'traditional' marriage statement shows how unfair, LACK of tolerance many gay supporters apparently have. It seems like those demanding tolerance are very much intolerant as clearly demonstrated by the Chick Fil A fiasco.

Boils down to most gay folks wanting to marry just like all of us heteros...I can absolutely understand how they would feel hurt by Cathy confirming he is funding against them...Doesn't really compare the other way around since we already have that right

[bucktalk]

Boils down to most gay folks wanting to marry just like all of us heteros...I can absolutely understand how they would feel hurt by Cathy confirming he is funding against them...Doesn't really compare the other way around since we already have that right

Soooooo....pro-traditional folks should be hurt by by the funding of many, many pro same sex marriage supporter companies, owners? Perhaps pro-traditional marriage folks should stage a 'kiss-in' at business that support same sex marriage in protest?

[JayhawkTransplant]

Tolerance for the bullies is one thing, and tolerance for the victims are another.

Exactly.

Also, for me, this has never been an issue of whether or not a business owner has a right to proclaim his personal belief system. I don't know anyone who has said that he should not have been allowed to say what he feels. But, let's be honest--how many people ate at Chick-Fil-A August 1 and were actually there because of 'freedom of speech,' and not because they happened to agree with Cathy about same-sex marriage?

[rcjunkie]

Exactly.

Also, for me, this has never been an issue of whether or not a business owner has a right to proclaim his personal belief system. I don't know anyone who has said that he should not have been allowed to say what he feels. But, let's be honest--how many people ate at Chick-Fil-A August 1 and were actually there because of 'freedom of speech,' and not because they happened to agree with Cathy about same-sex marriage?

Does it really matter, The US is still a Free Country