Macy's may come to Oklahoma City

[Jay]

My money is on Crossroads Foley's Closing. I think Macy's will close the Crossroads store due to a lack of upscale stores and upscale traffic. If it does stay open I could see Macy's turning the Crossroads store to a closeout/outlet store.

[Pete]

As I stated before, the Macy's concept and standard is at least one step up from Foley's. They are pretty nice stores.

My hope is that they Crossroads does get a Macy's (seems very likely) and that provides some good upward momentum for them to do a renovation and upgrade their tenants.

And I also hope that Macy's brings one of their more up-scale concepts to town, like Lord & Taylor or Bloomingdales. Either would be a good fit for Quail or Penn Square.

[PUGalicious]

Crossroads need to have something positive happen. It seems to me it's on its last leg. If they can't land something like this, I can't see it surviving many more years.

[mranderson]

As I stated before, the Macy's concept and standard is at least one step up from Foley's. They are pretty nice stores.

My hope is that they Crossroads does get a Macy's (seems very likely) and that provides some good upward momentum for them to do a renovation and upgrade their tenants.

And I also hope that Macy's brings one of their more up-scale concepts to town, like Lord & Taylor or Bloomingdales. Either would be a good fit for Quail or Penn Square.

"Upward momentum" starts with an owner that cares. Crossroads has no such owner. They act like a company that is interested in a capitol loss deducation on their income tax, and not one who cares about their client base.

I will stop by Macy's, and they may be fine in Crossroads. However, it is not the ownership that will guide the success. The ownership would do the opposite.

[brianinok]

Does someone have access to the Journal Record's article on this? It appears to be more than just a wire story, like all the rest that have been posted.

[Patrick]

From the Journal Record, 7-29-2005

"Next year, Foley's is out, Macy's is in


7/29/2005

OKLAHOMA CITY (JR) - It had been suspected since last spring, and now it's official: The Foley's stores in Oklahoma City and Tulsa will become Macy's by fall 2006.
Officials at Federated Department Stores announced on Thursday their plans to change the nameplate of many of the stores that will be acquired through a pending merger with The May Department Stores.

Included are the Foley's stores in Oklahoma, Colorado, Louisiana, New Mexico and Texas.

Foley's has local stores at Crossroads Mall, Penn Square Mall and Quail Springs Mall, and two stores in Tulsa at Promenade and Woodland Hill.

Federated Chairman, President and CEO Terry J. Lundgren said about 330 stores will be converted to Macy's when the merger becomes official. The addition of stores will bring the total Macy's count to about 730.

May has several regional names for its stores across the country, including Famous-Barr, Filene's, Hecht's, The Jones Store, Kaufmann's, L.S. Ayres, Meier & Frank, Robinsons-May and Strawbridges.

"We have chosen to proactively announce our decisions as they are made so that our intentions are clear," Lundgren said. "This decision to expand the Macy's brand was based on careful study and new research on customer preferences in May Company communities."

Lundgren said May stores, including those in Oklahoma City, "are deeply rooted in their communities. We appreciate the heritage and traditions associated with those names, and we expect to continue to play an important role in the communities where our customers live and work."

The company expects success from the acquired stores, Lundgren said. "Macy's emerged as a premier national retailer in March 2005 when we changed Federated's regional department store nameplates."

Federated has reported annual sales of nearly $16 billion and currently operates 450 stores under the names Macy's and Bloomingdale's."

[Jay]

I think Macy's arrival in OKC will mean a major explosion in high-end retail. I think for years many companies have overlooked OKC just because of the bubba reputation that has been tied to us. Eventually OKC will have all the retail stores that Dallas has.

I would not be suprised if another mall is built or another expierences a major expansion.

My money is on Quail Springs, they could either expand to the north or expand into a parking lot and build parking garages to replace the lost parking.

Penn Square might even decide to expand into existing parking and expand tbe parking garage.

Crossroads will probably just keep complaing about the traffic flow problem.

[kielaaron]

I've been living in California for over 2 months now and I'm more than happy to say that I'm out of Oklahoma and its community of spiteful judgmentality. Quite a few people on this board should learn to just live their own lives and be happy to simply be breathing... quit watching and labeling other people. Can't say I'm too surprised to see some people still acting like lonely old coots.

Best wishes to those who can remain respectable human beings. Greetings from CA btw, the weather here is great!

kt

[PUGalicious]

Dang, some of y'all are just turds... I've been living in California for over 2 months now and I'm more than happy to say that I'm out of Oklahoma and its community of spiteful judgmentality. Quite a few people on this board should learn to just live their own lives and be happy to simply be breathing... quit watching and labeling other people. Can't say I'm too surprised to see some people still acting like lonely old coots.

So happy to finally come back online and see that ol' Mr A and Co. are sill up to codginess...

Best wishes to those who can remain respectable human beings. Greetings from CA btw, the weather here is great!

kt

Not sure where that come from, but then again I'm new to the board.

California has more than its fair share of problems, especially with that governor of yours. I'll agree that many in this state tend to be close-minded and living in an alternate reality, but I'll take this city with its reasonable cost-of-living and manageable traffic anyday.

Having lived in several cities in several states, and visiting many more, OKC may not be the most beautiful (or comfortable) place to live, but it has its own unique qualities that make it a nice place to live.

BTW, the above reference post seemed to be a little of the pot calling the kettle black.

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[Karried]

I'm more than happy to say that I'm out of Oklahoma and its community of spiteful judgmentality.

You have one person mention gangbangers and the whole state is labled now? One person's prejudice shouldn't reflect on all of us here in OK.

There are thousands of posts on this board where race, class or sexual persuasion is never mentioned but this one makes our state judgemental?

I hope you are not perpetrating this image to your new friends in CA - it's not fair to the rest of us.

I lived in CA for 40 years so I know there is tons of prejudice people there as well, they just hide it better. But you will find it everywhere.

[Keith]

I've been living in California for over 2 months now and I'm more than happy to say that I'm out of Oklahoma and its community of spiteful judgmentality. Quite a few people on this board should learn to just live their own lives and be happy to simply be breathing... quit watching and labeling other people. Can't say I'm too surprised to see some people still acting like lonely old coots.

Best wishes to those who can remain respectable human beings. Greetings from CA btw, the weather here is great!

kt

This must be your lucky day, because, instead of deleting your spiteful post, I did some heavy editing instead. I would have deleted it, however, since Scribe and Karried posted a defense for okctalk and for the great citizens of OKC, I am leaving it for now. You have every right to post, just please stay on topic and please....no name calling. It is uncalled for.

[BDP]

I'm more than happy to say that I'm out of Oklahoma and its community of spiteful judgmentality.

which is ironically followed by:

quit watching and labeling other people

I lived in CA for years and I love it. I love the people, mainly its mix of people, perspectives, and attitudes. It's as diverse as its geography. However, if you think it's void of spiteful and judgmental people, then you have not been there long enough or you are in a very isolated environment. Oklahoma does have its problems with intolerance and lack of perspective, but to say those things define the community as a whole is very, well, spiteful, judgmental, and as inaccurate as saying California is without these problems.

[mranderson]

I have an idea. Why not just start a thread about the last four or five posts, and get this one back to Macy's and Oklahoma City? What a novel concept that would make... Staying on topic.

[venture]

Or perhaps this thread has just run its course and it is time to say good night. There really isn't any else to be said about Foley's going to Macy's until we get closer to the transition and have a clearer idea on the level of product that will actually be offered.

[Karried]

A lot of times in a thread, discussions lead to other posts related but not strictly staying with the original wording of the post -

Macys - Gangbangers - Oklahoma Prejudice - Defense of Oklahoma

I think we stayed on topic following the natural course of the discussion.

[venture]

Well I guess from that point of view we have stayed on topic. LOL

As far as the last 4 or so posts go...Oklahoma is actually more open minded an accepting than several of the places I've lived before. I've had numerous friends of various minorities and it is amazing how much better they are treated here than anywhere else. It will be amazing to see the comments from people when the gangbangers are replaced with members of our fairly substantial gay community here in OKC. I'm sure the comments will be flying when the first couple is seen holding hands through these, potentially more upscale stores - much like what I witnessed at Bricktown this weekend.

[BDP]

Why not just start a thread about the last four or five posts, and get this one back to Macy's and Oklahoma City?

I know... a conversation almost broke out! That was close... :tweeted:

[Karried]

Lol - sometimes you just have to laugh!

Bricktown was awesome this weekend by the way - so many people, I loved the Reggae Festival and just enjoyed seeing the hundreds of people out enjoying the mild weather. I wish the media had been covering a story.... oops I got off topic - again. Sorry

Macys-Gangbangers-Oklahoma Prejudice-Defense of Oklahoma-Acceptance of others-Bricktown couples- Reggae Festival-Media coverage (now if they were only out covering our new Macys in Bricktown, I'd be fine!)

[BDP]

I wish the media had been covering a story....

I think I saw a blurb on the Reggae fest on some local news station when I was at a store somewhere. It's pretty amazing how local news can make something as cool as Reggae fest look lame. I'm bummed I missed it this year, though. It's always a good time.

Almost forgot... Macy's Rules!

[Luke]

With every major and mid-major market getting a Macy's in the next year, I don't think that helps OKC in the upscale retail department. We need a Nordstrom, Lord & Taylor or Neiman Marcus to come in.

Penn Square is the mall most likely to pull one of these. The leadership there needs to put their heads together and come up with a creative way to add retail space at Penn Square. I say they should expand into a parking lot and just build parking garages to make up for the lost parking lot. Expensive? Yes, but with an abundance of new floor space (maybe even expanding to 3 or 4 floors in a new wing) there would be an abundance of new income. After all isn't there a waiting list to get into Penn Square?

Luke

[adaniel]

To reply to the last post, unfortunatley Lord & Taylor is in bad shape. They recently just decided to close all of their Texas stores so I would assume that they're jittery about this part of the country. Nordstrom's isn't doing much better. My bet is on Neimans but where would they put in on Penn Square? The demographics for that area are ideal for a luxury store but a Penn Square location just doesn't seem realistic given the fact that it is so built in. Neimans should consider builing a freestanding store or one that would anchor a small shopping center with upscale stores. Maybe somewhere along the 63rd or Penn Avenue corridor?

[brianinok]

I drove by Quail Springs Mall today and noticed that the Foley's signs were taken down. I guess that means that the Macy's conversion is now in full swing there. Anybody see if the same things is going on at Penn Square and Crossroads?

[sweetdaisy]

Although I haven't seen any signage change at Penn Square just yet, when I was in there yesterday, the salesgal I spoke with said the changes will be happening very soon. Didn't think to get a time frame, though.

Can't wait for the conversion!!!

[Shake2005]

The signs will change early fall from what I heard, product revamp has restarted already

[OklaCity_75]

I think its safe to say it is happening soon.

I tried to go to the Foley's website and I found this:

http://www.foleys.com/gifts/OnlineSh...cm_id=hdr_logo