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  1. #101

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    Couldn't find the article on newsok.com either, so I'm including the whole thing from their on line "print version".



    CENTURY CENTER’S SALE WILL BRING MAKEOVER, OWNER SAYS
    BY STEVE LACKMEYER
    Business Writer slackmeyer@opubco.com



    Steve Hurst admits that the Century Center Mall is an ugly building, but after representing an investment group in buying the downtown property for $2 million he is eyeing an extensive makeover.

    The mall, built in 1977 and only briefly a success in the early 1980s, was purchased May 11 by 100 Main LLC. Plans call for an extensive renovation that will be coordinated with an upgrade of the adjoining Sheraton Hotel and possible expansion of publicly owned structured parking above the former retail space.

    Hurst said the investment group bought 115,000 square feet of the mall from the hotel’s owner, American Property Management.

    “There’s just an imaginary line of demarcation that separates what we bought from an area the hotel kept because they want to expand their meeting space,” Hurst told The Oklahoman on Friday. “The bones of the building are good. The ugly concrete panels can be removed and a new floor to ceiling glass facade will be installed.”

    Hurst said the new owners will talk with city officials about their discussion as to whether to add two more stories to the parking garage — an expansion that would result in about 350 more spaces. The hotel’s owners, meanwhile, reported they plan to launch their own multimillion dollar room renovation that will be completed by spring 2013.

    The acquisition was brokered by Zach Martin and Tim Strange with Sperry Van Ness, and leasing will be overseen by Andy Burnett and Danny Ojeda, also with Sperry Van Ness.

    The plaza, the only real downtown retail built during the urban renewal era of the 1960s and 1970s, opened with a mix of restaurants, gift shops, clothing stores, a fitness center and even an FAO Schwartz toy store. The second floor was filled with offices during the oil boom of the early 1980s. The mall quickly emptied out with the following oil bust, and life never returned.

    “For over 20 years, we have had this huge mall sitting vacant right in the middle of downtown,” Martin said. “It’s literally in between the Devon Energy Center, the Continental Resources building, the First National Center and the Chesapeake arena — but vacant. This redevelopment will be among the most exciting projects in downtown’s recent history.”

    Hurst noted the property lagged behind revival of the surrounding area due to the timing of a loan the previous owners obtained using the mall as collateral. The property could not be sold until the loan came due, which occurred this month.

    “You see Devon’s investment, you see the investment in the Myriad Gardens, the (rising) occupancy in Class A and Class B office space, and we’ll have a streetcar system that potentially could touch this property on multiple sides,” Hurst said. “Just in the past few years there has been more than $1 billion spent around it.”

    Burnett and Hurst recently attended the International Council of Shopping Centers convention in Las Vegas, and both say that trip leads them to believe the property is ripe for redevelopment as a mix of office and retail.

    “We’re looking forward to marketing 100,000 square feet of office and retail space in one of downtown’s best locations,” Burnett said. “The level of interest from prospective tenants has been encouraging.”

    Hurst said multiple conceptual renderings have been created to show how the mall’s “ugly” concrete panels can be removed and replaced with a modern new glass facade. He cautioned the new owners will not be rushing into any changes.

    “We get one shot at this,” Hurst said. “So we want to get the best tenant and the best use. We’re going to take our time.”

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    BTW, that rendering does not show them extending the building outward in any direction.

    The 30' setbacks seem to be retained.

  3. #103

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    “You see Devon’s investment, you see the investment in the Myriad Gardens, the (rising) occupancy in Class A and Class B office space, and we’ll have a streetcar system that potentially could touch this property on multiple sides,” Hurst said. “Just in the past few years there has been more than $1 billion spent around it.”

    Another victory for the streetcar influencing development decisions. And it doesn't even exist yet.

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    Don't be surprised if that width on setback is used to add angled parking spaces from the street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    Don't be surprised if that width on setback is used to add angled parking spaces from the street.
    I've been told that won't happen on Sheridan. Not sure on Park.

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    I think you mean Main, not Park.


    Also, they just completely re-did Robinson in front of the Century Center (doing Sheridan now).

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    It would be a massive shame for housing to not be included in this development. I'm hoping the investment partners are creative enough and bold enough to look beyond office in the CBD core.

    But this is extremely positive news.

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    Tear the monstrosity down.

  9. #109

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharkSandwich View Post
    Tear the monstrosity down.
    I'm with you on this.

    I parked or worked in this place for something like 6 years. Although the rendering is without a doubt a tremendous improvement it looks as though they are keeping the spiral drives.... Which are terrible ideas... (Totally fun the first couple times, of course) On a daily basis you really start to see the dangerous problems. I can't see why someone wouldn't want to just start over with the spot... Maybe save the underground parking decks.


    Side-note... As of 2002 there was this really weird space on the north side of the second floor of the mall (already more or less abandoned at the time) It had velvet walls and weird alcoves and lofts like some 1970s bordello porn set. Seriously kinky-looking space, people LOL. I have no idea what it was once used for. The space was later stripped down to nothing interesting.




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    I found this sketch on Hans Butzer's website.

    If you look closely --and I realize this is all conceptual -- you'll see a restaurant in the southwest corner, something labeled "market" north of that and what appears to be a drugstore with a lunch counter in the northwest corner.

    It does seem to mirror the rendering that was released a couple of months ago:




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    I am looking forward to something happening with the Stage Center. Just about anything is better than what is currently there, visually (except a surface lot). Looking forward to an official rendering and site plan!

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    Catch. this thread is for Century Center (Stage Center has its own thread).

    Those renderings look excellent, I hope it happens AND FAST!!!!!
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOT ROD View Post
    Catch. this thread is for Century Center (Stage Center has its own thread).

    Those renderings look excellent, I hope it happens AND FAST!!!!!
    My bad. I was talking about the Century Center but for some reason I typed Stage. I agree, I hope something does happen soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by catch22 View Post
    I am looking forward to something happening with the Stage Center. Just about anything is better than what is currently there, visually (except a surface lot). Looking forward to an official rendering and site plan!
    whats there is not coming down ... this would reclad the outside

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    whats there is not coming down ... this would reclad the outside
    That is why I said "visually"

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    i think the visual cladding looks great, particularly if they really do optimize the ground floor offerings with restaurant, grocery/pharmacy, and shoppes.
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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    i have been told the restaurant on the south west corner is pretty much a done deal

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    I know it wouldn't be sexy, but I'd love to see a Walgreens or CVS at this site, as it would provide much-needed downtown amenities in terms of general shopping and even a decent market.

    It's also right in the middle of all of downtown and could serve almost all the visiting, working and living population from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I know it wouldn't be sexy, but I'd love to see a Walgreens or CVS at this site, as it would provide much-needed downtown amenities in terms of general shopping and even a decent market.

    It's also right in the middle of all of downtown and could serve almost all the visiting, working and living population from there.
    I think this would be great, just not sure if there are enough people living downtown for one of those companies to build a store there. But, it would definitely make things much more convenient for the current people living/working downtown. Seems like most other major cities have some sort of pharmacy in/near their CBD.

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    Something definitely should be done with that building. It is so deserted I earned my first soccer coaching certification in there and it included practice sessions in the large open area!! I think a Walgreens/CVS would be a good addition to downtown - it would be another sign of "normal" life down there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOT ROD View Post
    i think the visual cladding looks great, particularly if they really do optimize the ground floor offerings with restaurant, grocery/pharmacy, and shoppes.
    There were more impressive design alternatives that weren't shown publicly.

  22. #122

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    I like the Walgreens idea as well. There were many a time that I just wanted to buy a stick of gum or a bottle of water after a Thunder game as I walked down Robinson to get to my car and could not find a place to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCOKC View Post
    I like the Walgreens idea as well. There were many a time that I just wanted to buy a stick of gum or a bottle of water after a Thunder game as I walked down Robinson to get to my car and could not find a place to do that.
    Co-workers from out of town who stay at Sheraton or other area hotels often complain about no place to get necessities downtown. I know when I travel to D.C., Chicago or any other metro downtown (and have no car), the first thing I do is head for CVS or Walgreens to stock up on water or snacks/soda. I hope the Century Center re-do happens before I retire in 2015. The plans look great!

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    Urban Walgreen's are great because you can buy liquor in almost every other state..

  25. #125

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan View Post
    There were more impressive design alternatives that weren't shown publicly.
    I think that is almost always the case. Designers love to dream, and they almost always do a "shoot for the moon" concept as some point. Unfortunately, we are a city of compromise when it comes to design and rarely do we see "amazing" happen.

    That being said, the concept the public has seen is certainly nice and when considered in the context of improvement, well, just about anything is going to succeed in that category.

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