What Will The NCAA Do to Penn State After The Sandusky Trial?

[Sheetkeecker]

Sadly, I think they will get the Death Penalty in Football.
SMU got it for something 1-ten-thousandth as bad.

It is a very sad thing, in every way.
The crimes committed there were IMMENSE and CRIMINAL at the most horrible level.

CHILD ABUSE must NEVER be acceptable in any way, shape, form or fashion.
All criminals should have the BOOK thrown at them.

The cover-ups here are pervasive and tell a gruesome story of morally bankrupt people at every level at Penn State.

[Midtowner]

I'm not sure the NCAA has an interest in this issue.

[bluedogok]

I'm not sure the NCAA has an interest in this issue.

Agreed, from the outside looking in it doesn't any NCAA violations occurred that would trigger than kind of penalty. The only thing they could get nailed with is "Lack of Institutional Control" but that is even questionable for what is a criminal matter and not any direct violations of NCAA rules.

We will never see another death penalty again, the violations would have to be 100x worse than what SMU did, I just don't think they will do it again. Pat Jones has talked about when they handed the penalties handed down at OSU when he was coach they were told they had come the closest to the death penalty of any school since SMU (up to that time).

[MustangGT]

We will never see another death penalty again, the violations would have to be 100x worse than what SMU did, I just don't think they will do it again. Pat Jones has talked about when they handed the penalties handed down at OSU when he was coach they were told they had come the closest to the death penalty of any school since SMU (up to that time).

Never say never. Univ of Miami is acting as if they expect it. For what they did they deserve it. The behavior swirling around that program makes SMU look like a stubbed toe.

[bluedogok]

Never say never. Univ of Miami is acting as if they expect it. For what they did they deserve it. The behavior swirling around that program makes SMU look like a stubbed toe.

I think Sha-la-la would kill the program before the NCAA would.

[MustangGT]

I think Sha-la-la would kill the program before the NCAA would.

When you look at what they are doing that is exactely how it looks to fans and residents of the area.

[ljbab728]

There are increasing calls for the football "death penalty" for Penn State even if it's unlikely.

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...?ocid=xnetr6-4

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/481264...lege_football/

[MikeOKC]

Read this Newsweek story.... http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-football.html

It's clear something serious is going to have to happen to Penn State. Growing calls for the "death penalty". I didn't think this was a real possibility, but too many people who I wouldn't have suspected, are calling for just that, and they have a valid argument. This cover-up WAS done to protect the competitive level of the football team. To not hand out the harshest penalty of all might be the wrong message at the wrong time. Nothing would surprise me after the Freeh Report. As damning a report on an athletic program as I've ever read.

[Just the facts]

Penn State should be lucky to survive as an educational institution, let alone have an athletic program.

[Roadhawg]

Penn St. will survive and it won't get the death penalty. The NCAA has to look at what NCAA rules were violated, not laws broken. The NCAA learned a lesson with the death penalty the last time they used it, was it SMU?, and how it affected the other teams and the whole conference.

[MikeOKC]

Penn St. will survive and it won't get the death penalty. The NCAA has to look at what NCAA rules were violated, not laws broken. The NCAA learned a lesson with the death penalty the last time they used it, was it SMU?, and how it affected the other teams and the whole conference.

I hear what you're saying, Roadhawg, however.....I'm sure nobody would have even thought to need to include in the NCAA rule book that coaches and those associated with the athletic program not rape children in the shower and that said institution should not report it and proceed to cover it up to keep the football program free from scandal in order to remain competitive. It's not an NCAA "rules violation" because nobody would have thought there's a need to include such travesties. If this doesn't rise to the level of an egregious infraction to remain competitive (their wording for the death penalty) - I guess I don't know what one would be.

[ou48A]

Very bad, but what NCAA violations were committed and when?
Isn’t there is an NCAA statute of limitations?

The culture around the institution with its fan base needs to change.
Rather than giving PSU the death penalty, if it’s possible I would rather see the NCAA force PSU to play all road games for at least one season.
The culture of corruption in the B1G is nowhere close to the old SWC. So there is no need to punish others.

[MikeOKC]

Very bad, but what NCAA violations were committed and when?
Isn’t there is an NCAA statute of limitations?

The culture around the institution with its fan base needs to change.
Rather than giving PSU the death penalty, if it’s possible I would rather see the NCAA force PSU to play all road games for at least one season.
The culture of corruption in the B1G is nowhere close to the old SWC. So there is no need to punish others.

I made a few edits to my post above to address the rules violation. I agree about the culture and the pressure to succeed. We see that up close and personal in our own state. I really wish we could be like the rest of the world and keep our excitement for sports separated from our universities for higher education. I say that as one who enjoys college football, but it's a sham as far as "student athletes" go and the pressure to succeed is at the pro level. It's just insanity.

[Just the facts]

So pay an athlete $200 buck to NOT work at local dealership and the schools gets TV ban or Bowl ban. **** a child in the *** and they have to play all road games? This is proof positive that a growing number of sports fans have their priorities way out of wack. MikeOKC - I think I like yor idea of removing 'sports' from the college environment.

[Laramie]

Face it, no death penalty in college football for Penn State.

The NCAA made that mistake once before and if anyone deserves the 'Death Penalty' in football, it is Penn State. You won't see that happening with programs like Southern California, Notre Dame, Penn State, Michigan, Alabama or Auburn. Initiating the so-called 'death penalty' was to make an example of a college institution and it did just that. There are too many people who are affected by a 'death penalty' blow and the ones who you are trying to impact are usually gone from the program by the time that occurs.

[venture]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...for-penn-state

NCAA President Mark Emmert will not rule out death penalty for Penn State

"This is completely different than an impermissible benefits scandal like [what] happened at SMU, or anything else we've dealt with," Emmert explained. "This is as systemic a cultural problem as it is a football problem. There have been people that said this wasn't a football scandal.

"Well, it was more than a football scandal, much more than a football scandal. It was that but much more. And we'll have to figure out exactly what the right penalties are. I don't know that past precedent makes particularly good sense in this case, because it's really an unprecedented problem."

So there is the NCAA president pretty much laying it out that they are looking at everything including the death penalty. Which I guess they kind of have to.

[ljbab728]

A local call for a voluntary death penalty.

http://newsok.com/penn-state-needs-t...rticle/3693269

[Just the facts]

2 years isn't long enough. It should be 5 years. When the first game is played at Penn St after the hiatus, no student in the stands should have attended a Penn St home football game while a student at Penn St. That is how you cleanse the system.

[kevinpate]

2 years isn't long enough. It should be 5 years. When the first game is played at Penn St after the hiatus, no student in the stands should have attended a Penn St home football game while a student at Penn St. That is how you cleanse the system.

Was it current students who were responsible for the problems? News to me, but I admit I dinna follow the story very closely. I thought it was coaches, friends, administrators and the donor wallets they did not wish to offend. Wouldn't it make more sense to ban the full grown adults involved, for life, and send any donors involved in the shush-up, if any, packing, also for life? I realize several are gone, but is everyone who had a hand in it gone? That I don't know.

Placing the weight of it on the shoulders of babydult students for something they had nada to do with seems an odd pathway to me.

[Just the facts]

Anyone involved in the actual cover-up should be in jail. Cleansing the university and athletic department is different than criminal punishment. If you followed this story closely you will see that the 'excuse making' on behalf of Penn State fans is sickening. That thought process has to be removed form the collective minds of Penn St followers and the only way to do that is to create a new fan base (or as close to as can be accomplished).

[venture]

http://chronicle.com/blogs/players/j...-coaches/30771

Big Ten commissioner wants the power to fire coaches at the member universities to avoid things getting covered up by a school. It is also being discussed should Penn State get a ban, to expel the school from the Big Ten completely. They would need the vote of 8 out of the 12 schools.

[Spartan]

Well they will never replace the kiddie fiddlers with the school they've always wanted...

[venture]

Sounds like the NCAA is going to be crushing Penn State completely tomorrow.

Death Penalty is not being used, however sources were telling CNN and CBS Sports that it is worse. This is what is expected...

• $30 to 60 million fine
• First every president's punishment being exercised by the NCAA head.
• Multi-year post season ban.
• Elimination of a significant number of scholarships

Essentially it seems like the hammer is coming down and PSU will be done as a competitive FBS team for years to come. The question will have to be asked, does the Big Ten kick them out and seek a replacement team now.

[ljbab728]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...aa-source-says

With some interesting comments.

The penalties, however, are considered to be so harsh that the death penalty may have been preferable, the source said.

Unbelievable," said a Penn State trustee informed of the NCAA statement, speaking to ESPN.com senior writer Don Van Natta Jr. "Unbelievable, unbelievable." The Penn State trustees' hope that the statue's removal might send a positive message was trumped by the NCAA, which had already decided.

"Emmert has been given full reign by the pansy presidents (at other universities) to make his own decision," said the trustee, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "He has been given the authority to impose these unprecedented sanctions. It's horrible."

It's obvious that this Penn State trustee still just doesn't get it.

[Just the facts]

It's obvious that this Penn State trustee still just doesn't get it.

That is why nothing other than ending the football program at Penn St for atleast 5 years will get their minds right. Maybe it should even be one year per victim.