Help Officer Chad Perry

[SoonerQueen]

Eat at Jason's Deli this Tuesday from 4-10pm at all three locations in the OKC/Edmond area. They will donate 10% of their profits to the Oklahoma City Police Dept to help the policeman that was injured last week.

[bucktalk]

Does anyone happen to know how one can send a check/cash directly to Chad Perry's family? Or is there a bank handeling this financial drive for Chad?

[flintysooner]

http://www.chadpeeryfund.org/

https://www.facebook.com/chadpeeryfund

[Easy180]

I know this is a fundraising thread but here is to hoping the three thugs get 10 to 20

Saw where he was moving his arms so hopefully the dire predictions turn out to be wrong

[janejane]

The benefit at Dan Obriens this past weekend raised quite a bit of money for the family. Oklahomans coming together to help each other in time of need

[OKCTalker]

Jason's Deli locations:
1) 4236 N.W. Expressway
2) 950 Ed Noble Drive in Norman
3) 78 SE 33rd in Edmond

[BBatesokc]

Any of our legal professionals here have any idea why the criminal defendants were not charged with something to the degree of attempted murder? I've read several reports (not just media, actual police and court reports) that verify the primary offender has MMA training and that he intentionally positioned officer Perry so he could drive his head into the ground.

As the charges stand now, they are probably only realistically facing 5-8 years - is this even an 85% crime as charged?

[ljbab728]

Any of our legal professionals here have any idea why the criminal defendants were not charged with something to the degree of attempted murder? I've read several reports (not just media, actual police and court reports) that verify the primary offender has MMA training and that he intentionally positioned officer Perry so he could drive his head into the ground.

As the charges stand now, they are probably only realistically facing 5-8 years - is this even an 85% crime as charged?

Maybe that won't happen.

http://www.koco.com/news/27073124/detail.html

[Easy180]

That sounds more like it...Those dudes can try out their cool MMA moves on some better competition in the slammer

Ruined four lives just cause they wanted to look like badasses in front of the bar patrons

[BBatesokc]

Maybe that won't happen.

http://www.koco.com/news/27073124/detail.html

That's more like it.

[Easy180]

Suing the bar...My initial thought was maybe a bit over the top to sue the bar until I read they did not have any security that day...Can't be serving booze w/o security around IMO

http://m.newsok.com/s?s=16&a=3621422&f=news

[BBatesokc]

I certainly have no issue with the lawsuit being filed. Actually, I just assumed it had already been done. I don't think there is any law requiring security and having worked in bars for many years and knowing how incompetent many bouncers are, I've gotta say, if a trained police officer couldn't handle it then some $7/hr bouncer wasn't going to either. Also, I've seen bouncers get bars into more trouble then they get them out of. But, the serving intoxicated patrons - especially if they arrived drunk - will get them into trouble as long as they can find at least one witness that will verify it.

I really have issue with bar staff asking a patron (cop or not) to help get drunks out of a bar. That would have always been a huge no-no in my day. If patrons join in, fine, but you don't ask them to, because then you become responsible for their actions or injuries.

When stuff like that would happen in bars I worked, we found it best to shut off the music, turn on the lights and when the whole bars attention is focused on the trouble makers they just tuck tail and leave.

I still can't believe these guys were not smart enough to plead out the day they were charged - since the original charge only carried a one year jail term, max. Days later the DA's office realized this and changed the charge.

[kevinpate]

Suing the bar...My initial thought was maybe a bit over the top to sue the bar until I read they did not have any security that day...Can't be serving booze w/o security around IMO

http://m.newsok.com/s?s=16&a=3621422&f=news

I'd venture a guess that serving booze w/o trained security, or even PT bouncers, happens more often than having security happens. Could be wrong, but I'm not inclined to bet the other direction.

[oneforone]

I am wondering why they didn't call the police before he when over to talk to him. It's one thing when one guy is causing problems on the other hand when you have a group call out the cavalry. If I were the bartender I would have called every male employee over to the area and called the police. If they leave before the police arrive, you can always call back and tell them not to come out.

I am hoping for Peery's sake that his attorney has a mountain of physical evidence. Other wise it will be very easy for defense attorney to turn it back on him. After all if an officer arrives on scene to a call and he is out numbered, he calls for back up. I could see the question arrising of "Why didn't you call and ask for assitance from officers who were on duty at the time. Police officers are duty bound 24/7 to assist when called upon. However, they have to apply common sense and know when to act and when to wait for help to arrive.

God Bless this officer and his efforts however, this was situation with a group of rowdy drunks it was not what most people would call life or death. I guarantee if he called into dispatch and stated he needed help with a couple of unruly people, the officers in the area would have dropped whatever they were doing and came to his aid. Police officers behave like brothers and sisters to one another when one has their back to the wall everbody shows up.

I predict Dan Obriens will probably have themselves excused from the case unless a policy for dealing with unruly customers is not in place or it lacks detailed information or instructions to call police. Chances our they will probably settle to avoid any bad publicity.


The thugs will likely be cleared of any civil liablity but, they will spend a few years in jail on the assault charges. I think there is probably going to be issues with rather not properly presented himself. Think about it, there are probably dozens of security guards that present themselves as police officers. A few of the security companies in Oklahoma City go as far as dressing their guards in the same style of uniform as Oklahoma City Police Officers. The average person could easily confuse them with police officers. Very few people take the time to read a badge, name plate and shoulder patch.

[Midtowner]

^That's just about all incorrect. I don't even know where to start.

Establishments which serve alcohol are liable for what happens due to their serving alcohol. If one of those guys had gotten into their car and then killed someone in a car accident, the bar would have exposure. There's also premises liability issues. This isn't a law school final, but there are plenty of ways to establish liability here. Especially if the bar asked Peery to assist.

And the thugs who hurt him being cleared of civil liability? Unless you're talking about bankruptcy, I don't know what in the heck you're talking about.

[OKCisOK4me]

Suing the bar...My initial thought was maybe a bit over the top to sue the bar until I read they did not have any security that day...Can't be serving booze w/o security around IMO

http://m.newsok.com/s?s=16&a=3621422&f=news

Henry Hudsons' don't have security...

[Easy180]

Henry Hudsons' don't have security...

One reason that sacks get ripped there...Some of em should have metal detectors lol

Not saying it should be the law or anything but if you are creating drunks it would be ideal to have at least one 6 ft 5 250lber on standby

[Questor]

So how does the new Oklahoma law that curtails "joint and several" claims effect all of this? Wouldn't that limit someone's ability to sue anyone but the folks actually committing the act?

[Midtowner]

So how does the new Oklahoma law that curtails "joint and several" claims effect all of this? Wouldn't that limit someone's ability to sue anyone but the folks actually committing the act?

If it goes to jury trial, yes. It limits the bar's liability to the % it is actually liable instead of requiring the bar (who has insurance) to pay the whole thing, then seek contribution from everyone else. It's a boon for insurance companies and it means that injured people will not get fully compensated. It's very poor public policy really to have rules which favor folks who hurt people over the hurt people.

[Jim Kyle]

If it goes to jury trial, yes.

By a strange coincidence, the suit was filed on the last day before the new law went into effect, so the answer just might be "not at all." IANAL, but my wife was an insurance adjuster for almost 30 years and handled quite a few similar cases...

[Midtowner]

By a strange coincidence, the suit was filed on the last day before the new law went into effect, so the answer just might be "not at all." IANAL, but my wife was an insurance adjuster for almost 30 years and handled quite a few similar cases...

I'm glad then. The fact is that insurance has historically been able to pay for these things and turn a decent profit. If the insurance company doesn't want a PR nightmare, they'll be smart to settle up.

[Easy180]

One down....

http://m.newsok.com/s;jsessionid=AE5...3643936&f=news

A Newcastle man was sentenced Friday to 15 years in prison for his role in an assault that left an Oklahoma City police officer partially paralyzed.

[BBatesokc]

Bet he's wishing he would have pled guilty the day he was charged. He'd have done almost no time at all compared to this. I guess that's karma at work.

[Pete]

If this guy got 15 years after eventually pleading guilty, the two that actually did all the harm are in for a long, long prison stint.

[kevinpate]

If this guy got 15 years after eventually pleading guilty, the two that actually did all the harm are in for a long, long prison stint.

depends. one or both might have something of value to trade. I would suspect it would have to be a significant something given the harm and the status of the person harmed.