Midtown

[BoulderSooner]

Packard building sign was also just aproved

[Just the facts]

So east of the traffic circle and north of 10th but south of the alley?

[BoulderSooner]

So east of the traffic circle and north of 10th but south of the alley?

no just across the street and to the south of kaisers ... so south of 10th and east of walker directly south of the traffic circle

[Just the facts]

no just across the street and to the south of kaisers ... so south of 10th and east of walker directly south of the traffic circle

Perfect - thanks for clarifying. I was afraid it was going to be a new structure wedged into the triangle between the existing structure and the traffic circle.

[BoulderSooner]

Perfect - thanks for clarifying. I was afraid it was going to be a new structure wedged into the triangle between the existing structure and the traffic circle.

no problem .. the patio in the image is directly along walker

[wschnitt]

I think it would be great to have that triangle filled.

[Skyline]

Does Brown's bakery use all of their existing building?

In particular the south end of their building that looks like an old storage area?

[Just the facts]

I think it would be great to have that triangle filled.

I do too, I just didn't want it done with a one story building. I wish all six corners were built as close as possible to the sidewalk.

[wschnitt]

I do too, I just didn't want it done with a one story building. I wish all six corners were built as close as possible to the sidewalk.

I would like to see some street parking. I do not see the point of having a middle turning lane on walker.

[Just the facts]

I would like to see some street parking. I do not see the point of having a middle turning lane on walker.

I'll say this - for a city with a grid street network, the roads are all screwed up. Walker takes the cake but a close second is the new boulevard that will only have one street connecting to Bricktown (Oklahoma Ave) and that street doesn't connect to Deep Deuce. What a mess. Brings new meaning to the phrase 'you can't get there from here'.

[wschnitt]

I'll say this - for a city with a grid street network, the roads are all screwed up. Walker takes the cake but a close second is the new boulevard that will only have one street connecting to Bricktown (Oklahoma Ave) and that street doesn't connect to Deep Deuce. What a mess. Brings new meaning to the phrase 'you can't get there from here'.

Just the facts, we agree on many topics. There are very few streets that run 2 ways through downtown and out the other side. Maybe Sheridan is the only one.

[wschnitt]

Just the facts, we agree on many topics. There are very few streets that run 2 ways through downtown and out the other side. Maybe Sheridan is the only one.

Do you agree street parking on Walker would be helpful?

[BoulderSooner]

Do you agree street parking on Walker would be helpful?

not really any room on walker for on street parking

walker doesn't have a middle turn lane next to this building ..

just south of 10th walker is 2 lanes north and 1 south

at this building it is 1 lane each direction

[metro]

Does Brown's bakery use all of their existing building?

In particular the south end of their building that looks like an old storage area?

No it's a dump and used as storage. Has broken windows and graffiti. I started a whole thread on this building awhile back. What a waste of potential.

[BoulderSooner]

Just the facts, we agree on many topics. There are very few streets that run 2 ways through downtown and out the other side. Maybe Sheridan is the only one.

off the top of my head .. east west

reno sheridan 2nd (ends at 235 east) 4th 6th

north south (these will all me 2 way soon) walker hudson robinson EKG

[wschnitt]

not really any room on walker for on street parking

walker doesn't have a middle turn lane next to this building ..

just south of 10th walker is 2 lanes north and 1 south

at this building it is 1 lane each direction

Ok, so 2 lanes either direction and 1 parking lane

[wschnitt]

off the top of my head .. east west

reno sheridan 2nd (ends at 235 east) 4th 6th

north south (these will all me 2 way soon) walker hudson robinson EKG

Walker, Hudson and Robinson will be 2-way soon? That makes me happy.

[Just the facts]

Do you agree street parking on Walker would be helpful?

Yes Walker should have on-street parking and it is possible even with limited room. In places where there is only room for one lane of on-street parking they could put it all on one side of the street or even put parallel parking in the middle of the street and allow cars to park in both directions (instead of a center turn lane). I also like "skinny streets' but that is not possible on Walker due to the volume. A skinny street is one with two rows of parking (one on each side) and a single two-way lane down the middle.

Center lane parallel parking:


Skinny Street:

[Rover]

OMG. We can't have skinny streets. Look at that...trees, grass.....not allowed. Too suburban.

LOL. Can't believe you actually used that picture to promote one of your ideas.

[Just the facts]

OMG. We can't have skinny streets. Look at that...trees, grass.....not allowed. Too suburban.

LOL. Can't believe you actually used that picture to promote one of your ideas.

It is called the rural to urban transect and the trees are used to define the street wall instead of buildings. But you will notice that this street is straight and is not in a subdivision. This neighborhood is traditionally found at the edge of an urban cluster. Heritage Hills and Mesta Park would be some local examples.

This document does a pretty good job of explaining the rural to urban transect and although it is part of the New Urbanism strategy, it is one of my least favorite parts. To go with what Rover pointed out - I like the transition from rural to urban to be more well defined. But that is just me.

http://places.designobserver.com/med...Commu_1336.pdf

[CCOKC]

I walked by this site earlier in the week and it looks like it will be a nice addition to the area with the patio. I think my favorite thing is the reuse of the old diamond liquor store sign. My very first job out of college was an audit in the Osler building across the street. We were required to work on Saturdays (some things never change) and I was asked by a bum for some change so he could get a little something from the liquor store where this restaurant will be. As a 21 year old woman, I did not feel real safe in that area back then. (Some things do change.)

[soonerguru]

OMG. We can't have skinny streets. Look at that...trees, grass.....not allowed. Too suburban.

LOL. Can't believe you actually used that picture to promote one of your ideas.

WTF? Looks urban to me. Certainly not suburban as you characterize it.

[wschnitt]

WTF? Looks urban to me. Certainly not suburban as you characterize it.

I believe he/she was being sarcastic.

[Just the facts]

I believe he/she was being sarcastic.

No he wasn't. What is ironic though is that Rover saw a part of New Urbanism that he liked even though he didn't know what he was looking at.

[Rover]

Wow. Poking some fun and some of you can't see I. Got to quit taking yourself so seriously. I WAS being sarcastic.