Oklahoma Factory Shoppes - I40 & Council

[MDot]

Sweet! I need to go still and see what they got and how it looks and all.

[foodiefan]

Its a fact. There are also two chain restaurants going in. They are also in talks with more retail stores that are not in OKC. They just haven't finished the deals, so they couldn't tell me who they were. The two restaurants are already in OKC and found on Memorial.

Lovin' this!! I'm far enough away to be out of the "traffic pattern"
but close enough to be there in 5 minutes!!

[BrettM2]

The book store on the east side (between Justice and Disney Outlet) is closing and has just about everything 50% off.

[EricGarcia]

A store is already closing. Geez. That didn't take long. Too bad.

[catch22]

Hopefully not a bad sign. Bookstore might not be the best location, though. One can expect some ventures to not make it on the first run, 100% success rate is highly unlikely in any situation.

But:
Since the initial week or two after opening, every time I have been out there there does not seem to be much traffic...

[BrettM2]

Hopefully not a bad sign. Bookstore might not be the best location, though. One can expect some ventures to not make it on the first run, 100% success rate is highly unlikely in any situation.

But:
Since the initial week or two after opening, every time I have been out there there does not seem to be much traffic...

The mall was absolutely insane today. Not sure if you meant the book store or the mall in general, but it was definitely packed today. Parking was full everywhere I saw and stores were busy. Not sure about other times since my only other time was a Wednesday at 2pm, but today was busy.

[catch22]

The mall in general. I would expect today, last weekend before Christmas...people like me who still need to do their gift shopping!

[jbkrems]

I do not think a bookstore can really do well in that outlet mall. I think its a lot better site for clothing stores and the like. I know Saks and Brooks Bros does real well, and I am glad they do.

[rcjunkie]

I had to go to the Coach Store yesterday, stood in line almost an hour to checkout. I guess the incredible savings were worth the wait. Bought 3 purses, 1 check book cover and a coin purse for less than $500.00, most items were marked 50% off, plus as you enter the store, your'e handed a card that gives you an additional 30% off.

[onthestrip]

I don't think the book store closing is much of an indicator of how the mall is doing. The book store seemed to be an odd fit and I don't remember much signage or good window displays. I also know that traffic at the mall is much higher on the weekends than during the week. Many people drive in on the weekends to shop whereas during the week it's a little less crowded with mostly local folks

[catch22]

One thing I do notice is out of state tags. I see a lot of Texas and Kansas plates in the parking lot. So it is doing what it was advertised to do and that is attract money into the OKC economy.

[lasomeday]

Hopefully not a bad sign. Bookstore might not be the best location, though. One can expect some ventures to not make it on the first run, 100% success rate is highly unlikely in any situation.

But:
Since the initial week or two after opening, every time I have been out there there does not seem to be much traffic...

I went into the bookstore a few weeks ago looking for a new release and they told me they don't sell new releases. Kind of hard to have a book store that only sells books that don't sell.

Hopefully they can replace that two store front store with a Northface Outlet or something better.

[Skyline]

Didn't someone with the Outlet leasing office say that there was already a waiting list for new stores?

[lasomeday]

I think so. I know GiGi's cupcake was hoping for a permanent spot. The place they are in for the holidays is supposedly leased to another store that hasn't materialized.

[poe]

My mom and I enjoyed the bookstore there; however, it was a little odd. Plus, its hard to compete with Half Price Books. The space could be used for another large store, or split for a few more stores.

[ljbab728]

It looks like any expenses the city put up in surrounding street improvements are going to be paid back many times over eventually.

http://newsok.com/outlet-mall-boosts...rticle/3637320

[RoboNerd]

Has anyone else noticed how much the design amplifies the wind? During the winter it's rather uncomfortable. I don't really see a lot of bargains compared to Penn Square or Quail Springs. Obviously there are a few options not otherwise available, but what's going to happen when the newness wears off and the prices are the same as more comfortable shopping centers...

What am I missing here?

[bombermwc]

Nothing, it's just a mall. I've noticed the same thing with any outlet mall i've been to. While you find some stores that aren't in other malls, you don't really get a very good discount. You may even find the "outlet" version of some brand names that discount with last season's wares, and in those situations you do get a great discount, but you have jack to pick from.

But think about it. If you have a store in the Outlet mall like Nike, they aren't going to discount much (if any) compared to a normal retailer. Why? Because they can't undersale their normal distribution system through traditional retail. If they offered siginificant discounts at the outlet mall, why would you want to go to The Finish Line or something like that? Sketchers is another example of that. In fact, i'd often find a better price at Academy than at the actual Sketchers store!

It's just another option for shopping...with stores that aren't available at other places.

[BoulderSooner]

Has anyone else noticed how much the design amplifies the wind? During the winter it's rather uncomfortable. I don't really see a lot of bargains compared to Penn Square or Quail Springs. Obviously there are a few options not otherwise available, but what's going to happen when the newness wears off and the prices are the same as more comfortable shopping centers...

What am I missing here?

the prices are not close to the same as penn and quail ... and there are options not anywhere else in okc ...


also i am pretty sure american eagle is replacing the book store

[mcca7596]

It introduces the concept of outdoor malls if nothing else.

I wish it could have been built like SanTan Village in Gilbert, AZ: ample parking around the perimeter but streets that go through and have angled parking as well. This concept would work in Oklahoma City; it's not too urban.

[betts]

I was there a few days after Christmas and got some great bargains, especially at Off Fifth. I was shocked to see how much designer clothing they had. I got a DVF dress for my daughter at about 20% the orignally marked price, and an Escada dress for myself at about 25% of the original price. I saw Prada and multiple other designers as well. Those were clearly items not made specifically for an outlet store, and the prices were excellent. I'll be returning frequently, regardless of the attractiveness or lack thereof of the building.

[MDot]

I wouldn't be against this.

[OKCNDN]

I would like to see a comparison of sales tax revenue, pre and post-outlet mall presence, of tax districts close to OKC, particularly Moore.

Well we would probably have to wait until at least summer to get an even partially accurate picture of how the outlet mall may have affected sales tax collection. The grand opening sales tax collection may only show a one-time drop in sales tax revenue in other tax districts due to the newness factor of the mall. Everyone wanted to at least go check it out. And each Christmas season is different.

We may need to wait a few non-grand opening/christmas revenue collection periods to get a true accounting of the effect of the mall on surrounding tax collections.

[poe]

I was there a few days after Christmas and got some great bargains, especially at Off Fifth. I was shocked to see how much designer clothing they had. I got a DVF dress for my daughter at about 20% the orignally marked price, and an Escada dress for myself at about 25% of the original price. I saw Prada and multiple other designers as well. Those were clearly items not made specifically for an outlet store, and the prices were excellent. I'll be returning frequently, regardless of the attractiveness or lack thereof of the building.

Agree. I found plenty of nice merchandise at Off 5th; bought some Cole Haan sunglasses that I wouldn't have given a single glance at a normal mall and a Penguin skull cap. I'll be going back plenty of times.

[TheTravellers]

It introduces the concept of outdoor malls if nothing else.

You mean similar to what Penn Square used to be about 30 years ago?