Childrens Rights File Class Action Lawsuit on behalf of Oklahoma's Children

[Precious]

Hello I am a mother that has been thru alot with cps and there false accusations
I lost my kids and didnt even get trial do to the judge took to long to get attorney so I lost my rites

[Precious]

IMHO, the DHS has long been one of the most corrupt organizations in Oklahoma state government. The problem is how do you "fix" the situation?

Do you turn the DHS into a militant organization that starts grabbing kids for any and all reasons whatsoever just to increase the stats that say they are "doing" something? Do you just give everyone a blanket increase of, say, $100 per kid (never mind where it comes from) and say we've "done" something?

I don't think the system is easily fixed just because a lawsuit is filed. This system has been in place a long, long time, and I don't think it will be fixed overnight. I also want kids placed in safe, loving homes, but I also want loving, good parents left alone by the state.

Very difficult waters to tread.

-Soonerdave

I hope and pray that it will be fixed

[Precious]

im behind you 100%

[Precious]

I am all for the law suit are kids need to be safe protected and loved and they need there rites to

[Midtowner]

Midtown,

Are you suggesting we need to contribute to someone's campaign before they will listen to us? I personally campaign for the candidates in my area by giving my time. I my opinion they should be doing what is in the best interest of the public and money should not be the reason. That may be a bit old fashion and not the way politicians work these days and if that is really the case it is sad.

It's sad, but that's the way the state house operates. Some examples:

The prison industry, i.e., private prisons lobby very heavily. Consequently, they get significant state business.

In education, the schools themselves don't lobby, but the OEA? That's its prime directive. Consequently, the state's education system is set up more to benefit the OEA than the individual teachers and students.

One of the biggest lobbies in the state is that of the road contractors. Consequently, there are roads built where roads aren't needed and roads have over the years become a truly massive part of the state budget.

How about the children? Who speaks for them?

The money that the folks at the state capitol can dole out is finite and the squeaky wheel gets the grease. You guys are competing with paid professionals.

Just think -- a bill which would have made it impossible for injured wards of nursing homes to obtain nursing home records discussing unsafe conditions in the nursing home made it to the floor while DHS wasn't even talked about.

[OKCMallen]

When you guys find an answer for unwanted kids and sick individuals, you let me know.

[moose]

OKC Mallen, no hill is too steep to protect the children.

[Midtowner]

OKC Mallen, no hill is too steep to protect the children.

I see a lot of talk. I don't see a lot of action calculated to do anything.

[Karried]

When you guys find an answer for unwanted kids and sick individuals, you let me know.

Sterilization.

[Dana]

You are right about the lawsuit being the only way to bring about change. The reason we have to get outside help is because the inside people don't care. I know because I have had several of them tell me this. They don't care about the children they only want the money. It all works together you start with the crooked DHS workers getting aid from the crooked lawyers who then get help from the crooked judges. I have seen all of this first hand so nobody can tell me it doesn't happen. As soon as you point out the laws that they have broken they stick it to you more. Unless your child is really abused in the first place you will never get it back. They give back the abused kids because they are considered damaged goods and hard to adopt out. The ones that are not are never given back they are put up for adoption so they can get their Federal Bonus money. In 1999 they got 2 million dollars in 2007 they got 28 million dollars. As far as Howard Hendrick goes he is not about to turn loose of that gravy train he is in it for the money just like all the rest. Once a judge is assigned to a case that is it you are stuck nothing can pull him off unless he resigns himself. It doesn't matter how crooked he is there is nothing you can do until it is over then you can request an appeal. You can file a complaint with the bar but that still doesn't pull him off the case it doesn't matter how unethical or illegal he may be in his decisions. For anyone who thinks I am wrong about this feel free to call the bar center they will varify it for you.

[Midtowner]

Having had extensive dealings with the judge in your case, the charge that he is 'crooked' is utterly offensive and completely untrue.

It is possible that he got it wrong, but considering the fact that your daughter is spending time in the pokey for her disrespectful conduct, it doesn't sound like she put her best foot forward.

[Dana]

MALICIOUS PROSECUTION IS LEGAL IN THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA ACCORDING TO THE BAR ASSOCIATION. I JUST GOT A LETTER FROM THE BAR ASSOCIATION CONFIRMING IT. YET WE WONDER WHY OUR LEGAL SYSTEM IS SO CORRUPT. Hmmmmmmmmmmm

[Midtowner]

ACCORDING TO ME, MALICIOUS PROSECUTION IS ACTIONABLE, BUT NOT AGAINST A STATE AGENCY OR EMPLOYEE, EXCEPT AS A PRIVATE PERSON, BECAUSE BY DEFINITION, AN EMPLOYEE ACTING INTENTIONALLY AND MALICIOUSLY CANNOT BE ACTING WITHIN THE SCOPE OF HER EMPLOYMENT AND THEREFORE MUST BE SUED PERSONALLY. YOU ARE MISQUOTING THE BAR ASSOCIATION.

PLEASE.

[Dana]

ACCORDING TO ME, MALICIOUS PROSECUTION IS ACTIONABLE, BUT NOT AGAINST A STATE AGENCY OR EMPLOYEE, EXCEPT AS A PRIVATE PERSON, BECAUSE BY DEFINITION, AN EMPLOYEE ACTING INTENTIONALLY AND MALICIOUSLY CANNOT BE ACTING WITHIN THE SCOPE OF HER EMPLOYMENT AND THEREFORE MUST BE SUED PERSONALLY. YOU ARE MISQUOTING THE BAR ASSOCIATION.

PLEASE.

So are you telling me that it is not the Bar Associations responsibility to investigate lawyers and prosecutors for perpetrating a fraud upon the court? Or a district attorney using his position to prosecute somebody when they have no evidence and know that the person is innocent? I am sorry I thought the Bar Association was where you reported stuff like this I thought they were the watchdogs over lawyers, judges, DA's etc.

[PennyQuilts]

Malicious prosecution is a criminal charge brought by the prosecutor. The bar association deals with disciplinary complaints. There could be some factual overlap but the bar association can't bring criminal charges and they can't put people in jail.

[Mad Max]

We have dealt with DHS Ok and have found that they lie in court and get away with. In our situation, the grandmother was trying to get custody of the child and DHS did everything they could to prevent it. She offered to take classes which they stated to the judge no matter how many classes she would take they would not let her have the child. When the childs lawyer finally got the grandmother to get the child until decison would be made for adopton. DHS only provided the grandmother less that $800 for emerency funding for 4 months, stating that the grandmother would have to take parenting classes to receive any money to help the child who was disabled. They stated that the money they received for the child would be put in a trust for her? Are you freaking kidding me? The grandmother never did recieve a dime from DHS. The child is also disabled and receive almost no therapy for her disability stating there is no funding or facilities near by to treat her. There idea of therapy was coming into the home and asking if the child could stack blocks, put shapes in holes and see you next month, a whole 30 minutes. The grandmother finally got custody of the child and moved out of the state and the state that she moved into has informed us that this child had access to unlimited therapy under the DISABILTY ACT and that her rights were violated. The child is almost 3 years old, no speech, doesn't walk, need glasses, dietician, etc. We are in the process of getting that now. We have already started teaching her sign language along with speech and she will walk if you hold on her hand like a new toddler trying to walk...this is disgusting what DHS did to her. This was one of the reasons she was taken from her mother, neglecting her needs as a disabled child and DHS Oklahoma continued this neglect.