Devon Energy Center

[SoonerAce311]

thats just some nice corporate bs for ya

[plmccordj]

Yep... The only thing worse would be government BS.

[mburlison]

you are correct just the facts! its called "tierany". so much for a "free country" heh?

tyranny

[mrktguy29]

tyranny

Where is the 'like' button?

[MadMonk]

LOL, maybe he's referring to the different tiers of the company?

[SoonerAce311]

thank you there mburlison, i knew i was going to get a typo on that word, he he he

[mburlison]

thank you there mburlison, i knew i was going to get a typo on that word, he he he

no worries, just couldn't resist that one .

[OKCisOK4me]

Geez, we're back to getting on here and not seeing any worthwhile info about the Devon Tower. Can we delete some comments Pete?

[soonerwilliam]

I agree!

[BPD]

Well it was only a matter of time before someone stopped me from doing video at St. Anthony Hospital. Security came and kicked me out. How many times have I gotten that shot now? So would-be videographers beware. They expect you to check in with Planning and Marketing on the 4th floor of the main building every time. Who has time for that when you have a narrow window of time to deal with? This will effect whether I go there in the future.

Have you considered that a hospital has legitimate concerns about patient privacy? I know, I know - you were just getting pics of buildings! But these people must protect the privacy of patients, and they can't do it with people running around all over their hospital building with a video camera. Next time you are a patient, I think you will appreciate the hospital policy

[okcpulse]

Have you considered that a hospital has legitimate concerns about patient privacy? I know, I know - you were just getting pics of buildings! But these people must protect the privacy of patients, and they can't do it with people running around all over their hospital building with a video camera. Next time you are a patient, I think you will appreciate the hospital policy

On a parking garage?

[BPD]

On a parking garage?

You bet! Patients do get into and out of their cars on a regular basis and tabloid photographers just love to snap those pictures. I know full well that you guys aren't going to abuse anyone, but the hospital must have a policy covering everybody.

[Just the facts]

Have you considered that a hospital has legitimate concerns about patient privacy? I know, I know - you were just getting pics of buildings! But these people must protect the privacy of patients, and they can't do it with people running around all over their hospital building with a video camera. Next time you are a patient, I think you will appreciate the hospital policy

You can take pictures anywhere that is open to the public. No one has a right to privacy where no reasonable expectation of privacy exist. That includes parking garages. Like I said, it all comes down to how much confrontation you are comfortable with. UnFrSaKn could have just said go ahead and call the cops. The worst the cops can do is ask him to leave, and he did that anyhow. The police are not going to arrest someone for taking pictures from a parking garage because it isn't against the law. Just because a hospital has a 'policy' doesn't mean it is against the law. This is right up there with private parking lots that issue parking ticket. You don't have to pay those either; they are not a law enforcment agency

[SkyWestOKC]

Actually, you have the freedom of the press on all public areas unless there are ordinances against it or signs posted. The freedom of the press does not exist on private property, which would be a hospital.

Kerry, would you be okay with me walking up to your house, and standing on your porch taking pictures of the surrounding? Unless it's fenced in, technically your property is open to the public. (Not including the house) That's called trespassing. If the property owner or those working under the authority of the property owner ask you to leave for whatever reason, you must leave immediately. If you are on public property, no one can tell you to leave, not even a police officer -- unless you are harassing someone with your photography (Stalking, etc.)

[SkyWestOKC]

And to add, police officers are not even allowed on your property unless they are there with a warrant, or were called upon to be there. If a police officer knocks on your door, no warrant in hand and no complaint, you can tell him to get off your property, and he must do it. Not recommending trying that, but it makes a point.

[Just the facts]

Actually, you have the freedom of the press on all public areas unless there are ordinances against it or signs posted. The freedom of the press does not exist on private property, which would be a hospital.

Kerry, would you be okay with me walking up to your house, and standing on your porch taking pictures of the surrounding? Unless it's fenced in, technically your property is open to the public. (Not including the house) That's called trespassing. If the property owner or those working under the authority of the property owner ask you to leave for whatever reason, you must leave immediately. If you are on public property, no one can tell you to leave, not even a police officer -- unless you are harassing someone with your photography (Stalking, etc.)

Trespassing is illegal - but taking the pictures isn't. There is no law against taking pictures. But the assertion was that a right to medical privacy exists in a parking garage; it does not.

[SkyWestOKC]

Well, in order to take pictures on private property, you must trespass. Not sure what your logic is there. It's up to the property owner to call you out on trespassing, and they do not require a police officer to remove you unless you do not leave when asked.

[Just the facts]

We derailed this thread enough - back to Devon Tower.

[mcca7596]

So, they are almost completely done with the outline of structural steel for the west side of the crown, right?

[Just the facts]

So, they are almost completely done with the outline of structural steel for the west side of the crown, right?

It looks that way and it does appear I was mistaken in how the crown would come together. It appears the glass will be affixed to the yellow beams and the gap between the yellow frame and the concrete floors will be an open air atrium as Pete said. I still think it would have been a cooler design to install the glass along the concrete and leave the yellow beams open air on the outside of the building. Oh well.

[jn1780]

It looks that way and it does appear I was mistaken in how the crown would come together. It appears the glass will be affixed to the yellow beams and the gap between the yellow frame and the concrete floors will be an open air atrium as Pete said. I still think it would have been a cooler design to install the glass along the concrete and leave the yellow beams open air on the outside of the building. Oh well.

I imagine there will be walls and a glass ceiling enclosing the area directly above the three gaps. Otherwise the building would not be completely enclosed.

[dankrutka]

It looks that way and it does appear I was mistaken in how the crown would come together. It appears the glass will be affixed to the yellow beams and the gap between the yellow frame and the concrete floors will be an open air atrium as Pete said. I still think it would have been a cooler design to install the glass along the concrete and leave the yellow beams open air on the outside of the building. Oh well.

Huh, crazy that they didn't clandestinely stray from their design at the last minute.

[Just the facts]

Huh, crazy that they didn't clandestinely stray from their design at the last minute.

Well, that wasn't what I was suggesting but thanks for playing anyhow. I was only theorizing about the placement of glass in relation to the yellow beams (i.e. would the glass follow the contour of the concrete behind the yellow beams or be attached directly to the yellow beams).

[edcrunk]

tyranny

Tearanny... for those who tyranny makes really sad.

[KayneMo]

Since the 10th anniversary of the September 11th attacks is Sunday, I thought it would be interesting to see how the World Trade Center looks compared to Devon Tower and the rest of downtown Oklahoma City in SketchUp:

From the NW:


From the S/SE:


And an elevation from the E:


The WTC, especially the Twin Towers, were incredibly massive. The whole complex had right around 12 million square feet of office space! 1 WTC was 1,368' tall (1,727' with antenna), and 2 WTC was 1,362'. If even 7 WTC were placed in OKC, it would be the 2nd tallest skyscraper in the city at 610'!

I also want to say that my thoughts and prayers go out to everyone who were affected by the 9/11 attacks. I still remember that morning in my 5th grade class as if it just happened. I can't believe it's been 10 years already..