OKC/Will Rogers Air Service Discussion 2011

[LakeEffect]

Frontier loaded their schedule extension to May 10 this morning.

We will remain at 2 daily flights (1x A319 1x E190) to Denver until May 1, when we return to 3x daily flights (2x A319 1x E190).

Can you give a tutorial of how you obtain this info usually (for all or most airliens)? I like knowing all this, especially when I'm trip planning...

[brianinok]

I was looking for some flights earlier, which would get me back to OKC on 11/21. I noticed that one of my return options was a connection in Memphis on Delta on a mainline (MD-88). It is flight 1113, leaves Memphis at 2:00, arrives OKC 3:32. Is this just an unusual schedule or is it an equipment upgrade?

[ljbab728]

Can you give a tutorial of how you obtain this info usually (for all or most airliens)? I like knowing all this, especially when I'm trip planning...

All you need to do is to give your travel agent a quick call. They will have this information at their fingertips to give to you immediately.

[ljbab728]

I was looking for some flights earlier, which would get me back to OKC on 11/21. I noticed that one of my return options was a connection in Memphis on Delta on a mainline (MD-88). It is flight 1113, leaves Memphis at 2:00, arrives OKC 3:32. Is this just an unusual schedule or is it an equipment upgrade?

For right now, that appears to be just a one time occurrance. No other dates are showing the upgraded equipment. It could be due to scheduled aircraft maintenance or repositioning.

[SkyWestOKC]

@brianinok

Appears to only be a one-time segment. The a/c will fly from MEM to OKC to MSP. Will only fly on Nov 21.

This is just adding some extra capacity to the market for the holiday travel week. I can't seem to find the flights replicated anywhere else in the schedule. I'll dig through them some more tomorrow, though.

[ljbab728]

@brianinok

Appears to only be a one-time segment. The a/c will fly from MEM to OKC to MSP. Will only fly on Nov 21.

This is just adding some extra capacity to the market for the holiday travel week. I can't seem to find the flights replicated anywhere else in the schedule. I'll dig through them some more tomorrow, though.

I checked quickly well into next year and there were no similar flights.

[SkyWestOKC]

Looks like we posted at just about the same time! haha!

2011 has been a fantastic year for air service at OKC. Hopefully this momentum continues! I think it will, airlines have been devoting a ton more attention to us than many of the previous years.

[damonsmuz]

Anyone have a list of charter aircraft tha OU and OSU will be using this year??? Who is OU using this year?? OSU? Equipment?

[OUman]

Anyone have a list of charter aircraft tha OU and OSU will be using this year??? Who is OU using this year?? OSU? Equipment?

This changes quite a bit as airlines will typically give a team an aircraft a few days before they fly out, so the best thing to do is look at FlightAware's schedules the day before OU/OSU are headed on the road.

[GoThunder]

^true

I have frequently seen OSU use Continental 737s for football and basketball. Anyone know what these schools pay for these charters?

[SkyWestOKC]

http://www.flyokc.com/statistics/Aug...nplanement.pdf

Solid numbers.

[NickFiggins]

OU has a contract with American Airlines to charter flights, Boren who was a member of the AA board, always had to abstain from the discussion when it came up in the board of regents for conflict of interests issues.

[SkyWestOKC]

AA also has the OU contract for non-charter flights too.

[MikeOKC]

OU and American Airlines. I'm sure that has nothing to do with Boren being on the board of AA and its parent company AMR up until four months ago. He could abstain all he wants, but that's all pretty obvious. Once a politician - always a politician.

[OUman]

I did see a CO 772ER once for that was to take OU to the National Championship in New Orleans back in '05 (?).

[ljbab728]

OU and American Airlines. I'm sure that has nothing to do with Boren being on the board of AA and its parent company AMR up until four months ago. He could abstain all he wants, but that's all pretty obvious. Once a politician - always a politician.

Once a conspiracy theorist, always a conspiracy theorist. That's just silly. Boren is not going to risk his reputation on something as trivial as an airline contract with the university.

[MikeOKC]

Once a conspiracy theorist, always a conspiracy theorist. That's just silly. Boren is not going to risk his reputation on something as trivial as an airline contract with the university.

Oh, Larry...please. You're surely not that naive.

It's not a "conspiracy theory" - it's good, old-fashioned, 'you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours' politics.

As for his "reputation" - which one?. There's the David Boren that is known in Oklahoma as former Governor, U.S. Senator, President of OU (it's basically a good reputation) and then there's the David Boren known well by Washington old-timers who know a (cough) ...err..(cough) completely different David Boren who was known for hypocrisy on....let's just say, "certain issues." If you try to deny that, you'll be engaging in historical revisionism. What is -- just is.

[ljbab728]

Oh, Larry...please. You're surely not that naive.

It's not a "conspiracy theory" - it's good, old-fashioned, 'you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours' politics.

As for his "reputation" - which one?. There's the David Boren that is known in Oklahoma as former Governor, U.S. Senator, President of OU (it's basically a good reputation) and then there's the David Boren known well by Washington old-timers who know a (cough) ...err..(cough) completely different David Boren who was known for hypocrisy on....let's just say, "certain issues." If you try to deny that, you'll be engaging in historical revisionism. What is -- just is.

Mike, I'm not in the least naive. You just seem to have an innate distrust of everyone and make assertions without foundation. And if the "certain issues" you're thinking about are what I think, even if it was true (which is far from certain), it is totally irrelevant. You're still seeing spiders in the corners which aren't really there.

But this discussion has nothing to do with the topic so that will be my last comment about this subject.

[SkyWestOKC]

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9473

There are the sooners.

[SkyWestOKC]

Forgot to post this, but Delta adjusted their winter schedule to keep the 2 mainline flights throughout. Normally they seasonally discontinue in Jan and Feb and restart in March. Appears they are going to keep it going all the way through.

[HOT ROD]

two more sooner charters to FSU

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/E...200Z/KOKC/KTLH
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...915Z/KOKC/KTLH

[venture]

List of Diversions from the Dallas ground stop last night...these are the departures from OKC. The originating city I put on the right. Some are OKC original flights that were delayed.

DAL910 MD88 Dallas/Fort Worth Intl (KDFW) Fri 10:31PM Fri 11:13PM Fri 11:19PM -- Atlanta
AAL1227 MD83 Dallas/Fort Worth Intl (KDFW) Fri 09:51PM Fri 11:10PM Fri 11:06PM -- OKC
AAL1452 MD83 Dallas/Fort Worth Intl (KDFW) Fri 09:47PM Fri 10:36PM Fri 10:43PM -- Sacramento
AAL694 MD83 Dallas/Fort Worth Intl (KDFW) Fri 09:42PM Fri 10:27PM Fri 10:41PM -- Calgary
AAL1772 MD82 Dallas/Fort Worth Intl (KDFW) Fri 09:39PM Fri 10:31PM Fri 10:23PM -- Burbank
CPZ5837 E170 Dallas/Fort Worth Intl (KDFW) Fri 09:33PM Fri 10:10PM Fri 10:15PM -- Minneapolis
AAL2339 MD82 Dallas/Fort Worth Intl (KDFW) Fri 09:30PM Fri 10:09PM Fri 10:13PM -- Chicago
ASQ5299 CRJ9 Dallas/Fort Worth Intl (KDFW) Fri 09:26PM Fri 10:05PM Fri 10:08PM -- Detroit
AAL1367 B752 Dallas/Fort Worth Intl (KDFW) Fri 09:22PM Fri 09:55PM Fri 10:03PM -- St. Louis
AAL1770 B738 Dallas/Fort Worth Intl (KDFW) Fri 09:19PM Fri 09:55PM Fri 09:59PM -- New York JFK
MRA801 C208 Dallas/Fort Worth Intl (KDFW) Fri 09:15PM Fri 10:35PM Fri 10:40PM -- OKC
AAL337R MD83 Dallas/Fort Worth Intl (KDFW) Fri 09:14PM Fri 09:51PM Fri 09:54PM -- Chicago
AAL763 B752 Dallas/Fort Worth Intl (KDFW) Fri 09:10PM Fri 09:58PM Fri 09:51PM -- New York LGA
EGF3313 E145 Dallas/Fort Worth Intl (KDFW) Fri 09:00PM Fri 09:35PM Fri 09:40PM -- Madison
FFT138 A320 Dallas/Fort Worth Intl (KDFW) Fri 08:53PM Fri 09:28PM Fri 09:31PM -- Denver

[venture]

Schedule changes for Spring are starting to trickle in.

Seasonal adjustments by Delta phase out so DTW and MSP are back to 3 daily in the spring.

[SkyWestOKC]

Preliminary capacity has MSP at 4 flights again during the summer. Hopefully that change will stay.

[SkyWestOKC]

Looking ahead over at United's future bookings for SFO, they are starting to pick up. Have noticed a lot of advertising on the radio as well as web based ads. They have a billboard up on Airport Road.