Devon Energy Center

[rcjunkie]

Dear Spartan,

Stay in Oklahoma, United States of America and not anywhere else...especially not Europe. Keep your money within the local system.Sincerely,
The One Writing You This Letter

But most of our money belongs to China!!!

[Spartan]

Dear Spartan,

Stay in Oklahoma, United States of America and not anywhere else...especially not Europe. Keep your money within the local system.

Sincerely,
The One Writing You This Letter

Ha, thanks. Oklahoma or Europe, that's a toughie.. but after 6-7-howevermany months, I'm starving, tired of cheap kebabs, and ready to come home.

By the way, you don't shop at Wal-mart, do you? At least the nice thing about overpriced European places is that the money is almost totally reinvested in the community. And China is some distant entity you only hear about because of how the U.S. has gotten the entire world financially tangled up with Beijing.

[SkyWestOKC]

If you love it so much, move there. Instead of constantly bringing your "better-than-thou" attitude to this forum. The forum was nice and quiet while you were absent. I think we made a lot of progress without your divine leadership.

That's great that you paid $10-20 per meal. That's awesome. You can pay $10-20 per meal here if you want, also. Just go to the right store. But you won't do that, because we have cheaper options, that I know you will eat, and will not share your experience with this forum. Because only the poor lower and middle class beggars eat from there. Not the upper class you think you are in.

[Rover]

Spartan, ignore the previous post. We missed your perspective on this site. Welcome back.

I think the myopic view of many in this city who have little outside references from Europe, Asia or anywhere else limits the progress we can make here. There are many who are unaware of the accumulated experiences of the rest of the world and how that exposure to it can help us. I think it is great you sacrificed to go learn what is really happening in the world instead of assuming it can all be experienced by reading USA Today or watching Fox news. I hope your experiences help you develop your own views independent of other rigid dogma. Good for you.

[SkyWestOKC]

Rover, don't get me wrong. It's great that he is experiencing diverse cultures and how people in other countries act, work, spend, etc. That's all great stuff. I do however don't like how he presents it. His tone (at least how it is read) comes off as he is "better than thou" because of this.

The perspective is nice, the presentation isn't good.

[Rover]

Hopefully, the more someone experiences and they see that there are many ways to excel, they also find humility. I personally love Spartan's passion and confidence (even though our ideas clash from time to time). Perspective only really comes when you have something to compare. I think he will be a great asset to whomever he works for. But I do think he will become more tolerant of differing ideas. In the meantime, you must admit that he challenges everyone to bring their "A" game here.

Gosh, now I sound like my Granddad. LOL

[dankrutka]

I've learned a lot from Spartan. Never felt like he was talking down to us. He usually backs up his opinions with substance. Welcome back.

[Spartan]

If you love it so much, move there. Instead of constantly bringing your "better-than-thou" attitude to this forum. The forum was nice and quiet while you were absent. I think we made a lot of progress without your divine leadership.

That's great that you paid $10-20 per meal. That's awesome. You can pay $10-20 per meal here if you want, also. Just go to the right store. But you won't do that, because we have cheaper options, that I know you will eat, and will not share your experience with this forum. Because only the poor lower and middle class beggars eat from there. Not the upper class you think you are in.

Hey skywest, sorry you're in a bad mood. I was complaining about how broke meals have made me because someone mentioned that Golden Corral is $5 on a certain night, I think. That is amazing. Gotta love the cheap, and the stars and stripes. We may be in debt up to our eyeballs, but at least we eat like kings for cheap!

Thanks Kilgore, and Rover. Well I will try to sound less "holier than thou" but I also hope it wasn't too nice and quiet on here without me.

[soonerguru]

Rover, don't get me wrong. It's great that he is experiencing diverse cultures and how people in other countries act, work, spend, etc. That's all great stuff. I do however don't like how he presents it. His tone (at least how it is read) comes off as he is "better than thou" because of this.

The perspective is nice, the presentation isn't good.

I don't get that at all. I think you're just extra-defensive about anything remotely critical of the way we do things here. He certainly doesn't talk down to anyone on this thread. In fact, he doesn't even call anyone out.

Relax.

There are many things we can learn from the way other countries do things; that doesn't make them better than us. And there are certainly things other countries can learn from us.

[Spartan]

Yeah, I actually like everyone who has posted in this thread, so let's all be friends..and get back to ramping up baseless speculation of Devon retail/restaurants, or whatever it is we do for fun on here. :-P

If I was trying to talk down on someone, we wouldn't be debating whether I was or wasn't..it would be obvious and harsh lol

[lasomeday]

I'm glad you are back Spartan. It is good to have people on here that have a clue what they are talking about instead of random nonsense.

I hope they have a variety of food places. Downtown really needs some more Asian restaurants..... a good pho, Korean, or Indian restaurant would be great. There are too many gyro, sandwich, and Mexican places.

As far as retail goes, a good office supply/computer store would be great as well as a few boutique stores for the ladies.

[OSUMom]

FNC had a fairly big office supply store until recently. I don't know where it went.

[Midtowner]

FNC had a fairly big office supply store until recently. I don't know where it went.

The current landlord asked for something like triple the rent and they left. This was an annoying discovery for me as I ended up having to drive to Midwest City to buy some supplies for a trial notebook at the last moment.

[soonerguru]

The landlords of FNC are intentionally sabotaging that building. Perhaps they're trying to drive down its value as much as possible. Not sure why.

[Spartan]

I'm glad you are back Spartan. It is good to have people on here that have a clue what they are talking about instead of random nonsense.

I hope they have a variety of food places. Downtown really needs some more Asian restaurants..... a good pho, Korean, or Indian restaurant would be great. There are too many gyro, sandwich, and Mexican places.

As far as retail goes, a good office supply/computer store would be great as well as a few boutique stores for the ladies.

Yeah, usually a good indicator of how varied downtown food offerings is how many restaurants that I don't like. The only problem is those types of joints usually cater just to the downtown workers.

I would think an office supply store would be the obvious starting place for retail in the Devon complex, but it will be interesting to see if they're thinking practical or prestige.

[SkyWestOKC]

I apologize to Spartan and forum. I completely misread his post. I'm embarrassed to say the least.

[Thunder]

I apologize to Spartan and forum. I completely misread his post. I'm embarrassed to say the least.

We forgive you, airplane boy. <3

[Spartan]

Tune in next week? :-P

[OKCisOK4me]

I would "Like" this post but I'm forgetting this isn't Facebook.

I'm guessing after the current floor under construction (50) that the rest of the tower will be steel? Or is it concrete through 51?

[DelCamino]

From July 16, 2011 - taken from northeast Oklahoma City.

[ZYX2]

^^^Cool! Now there just needs to be something between Chase and Devon at about 650ft or so and it would look fantastic. IMO

[OKCisOK4me]

Yeah, not a fan of that angle (from that far away). Lately, I've been admiring coming westbound on I-40, just west of the Ft. Smith Junction. It looks good from over there!

[mcca7596]

Yeah, not a fan of that angle (from that far away). Lately, I've been admiring coming westbound on I-40, just west of the Ft. Smith Junction. It looks good from over there!

I agree! Also at Reno and Air Depot it looks great!

[Pete]

I deleted a bunch of off-topic posts and moved a ton more to the "General Urban Development" thread.

Please keep this about Devon Tower. Thanks.

[Pete]

Here are some recent photos courtesy of plmccordj (love, love, love the first one!):