Prostitution In OKC

[Pete]

Wow, what a story. I hope wherever she is that Yvonne is okay.


It's very, very difficult for fully-formed adults to make deep, lasting change... At best there is a constant struggle and lots of ups and downs that frequently last a lifetime. That's why it's so important to help young people before they go down these paths because once they do, it's infinitely harder to pull them back.

[PennyQuilts]

They aren't really interested in how you do later, they got your money. Universities are, after all, part of the military-industrial-education complex and as a consequense, not accountable for their actions.

HUGE conflict of interest, if you ask me.

[OKCMallen]

i saw the king of the hill episode the other night where a new employee at strickland propane turned out to be a prostitute and her pimp was "alabaster jones" - the "main mack" of oklahoma city, and was voiced by snoop dogg. funny episode...

That episode was AWESOME. Snoop heads back to the OKC where he has a "stable" of hoes. Hank even drops a little smack, something to the effect of "No offense, but you're from OKlahoma...." when saying Hank could take Alabaster in a fight.

[jmarkross]

When did Jesse's close?

[Thunder]

When did Jesse's close?

I dunno. I'm still around. :-)

[BBatesokc]

i saw the king of the hill episode the other night where a new employee at strickland propane turned out to be a prostitute and her pimp was "alabaster jones" - the "main mack" of oklahoma city, and was voiced by snoop dogg. funny episode...

[jmarkross]

I dunno. I'm still around. :-)

It was a legendary place back in the 1960's--and before...OKC's version of the Texas Chicken Ranch (not that kind Thunder)...SE of Dallas...

[BBatesokc]

FYI - If anyone is interested, I post to Instagram on a semi-regular basis. If you have an iPhone or other iDevice you can follow me within the Instagram app (VideoVigilante) or online via Webstagram.

[USG'60]

I dunno. I'm still around. :-)

Not very many here know your real name, Jess ......er, uh, I mean .....Thunder.

[BBatesokc]

Just posted this last night after police contacted me. The media hasn't picked up on this yet, but its a tragic example of the depths of hell some area prostitutes/drug addicts will go to get their fix....

OKC Prostitute Sought in Connection to Rape & Blinding of 3-year Old Child

[BBatesokc]

A time lapse example of the street prostitution on one corner on South Robinson Ave.

http://www.twitvid.com/3M1SY

[Achilleslastand]

A time lapse example of the street prostitution on one corner on South Robinson Ave.

http://www.twitvid.com/3M1SY

Thats quite a busy intesection. I kept thinking i hope that dog dosnt get hit by a car.

[Roadhawg]

Doesn't look like that girl got many offers

[BBatesokc]

Doesn't look like that girl got many offers

None of them got picked up - which is surprising.

[BBatesokc]

I also just posted the same time lapse footage to my JohnTV Google+ account if you're curious about G+. I like that the videos are much larger there.

https://plus.google.com/117865876432211917324/posts

[HappyDaze]

That was a pretty stupid video. I hope the dog's OK.

[kevinpate]

So much for a robust economy. Even the S Robinson street vendors are having tough times

[Roadhawg]

So much for a robust economy. Even the S Robinson street vendors are having tough times

I'm waiting for a price reduction

[rcjunkie]

I'm waiting for a price reduction

I'm waiting for this "1 hour date" to be included in the next stimulus package.

[USG'60]

Do the girls compete on their prices or is price fixing afoot? This is strictly an academic question? :-)

[TxAxeMan]

One reliable version of events says the women traded the child to the men for a few hours in exchange for drugs...

This kind of thing breaks my heart. I don't really care what they do to themselves, but hurting children for drugs/gambling money/fun/anything should get you the needle...

[SSEiYah]

The OPA sets the prices for specific services, potential fines if the fee structure is now followed closely.

[Jzyehoshua]

Oklahoma City is growing in population at a good steady pace, but not all growth is good, we all hear about the good things about the economy growth of Oklahoma City, but we rarely hear about the crime growth, in particular prostitution.

It seems that the prostitution problem in Oklahoma City is getting worse, and expanding to more different parts of the city. Long has S. Robinson been the focal point for prostitution in Oklahoma City, however S. Robinson is no longer the premier track for prostitution Oklahoma City. You now have 10th and McArthur, 122nd and I-35 truck stop, but more astonishing strip clubs.

The strip club prostitution scene has become a major animal that authorities now can't control. I don't understand how a police station can sit in between 3 strip clubs, (literally), and not enforce prostitution in those strip clubs where its the worst. As "john's" and prostitutes are being smarter, and getting off the streets and taking it inside to the strip clubs, where "john's" can simply pick up a prostitute, and leave, and then the prostitute can come back to work in the strip club. Even more, the bartenders/managers of the strip club know this goes on, but they receive a cut.

It seems that the OKC authorities are not taking this seriously and in some fashion they are silently decriminalizing prostitution in Oklahoma City as its getting worse, not better.

This seems to me akin to the subject Alphie Kohn discusses in his excellent work, "Punished by Rewards". Kohn points out that teachers, employers, and parents frequently discipline with both punishments/threats and rewards/bribes. One of the key points Kohn makes while pointing out rewards are as destructive as punishments since both are used to manipulate (that what's wrong is not the reward itself but saying "do this and get that", the process of manipulating), is that both rewards and punishments seek to manipulate a person into performing a certain action, but never confront the original problem.

In other words, whether using punishments or rewards - in this case, probably stricter punishments on prostitution - using either avoids the underlying problem. What is the underlying problem at the root of prostitution? A lack of employment opportunities. If we were to fix employment in the city, as well as the lack of shelter options (no place but the City Rescue Mission has room right now for anyone who needs it - and the CRM kicks people out for any reason, and does not allow them to stay past 30 days anyway unless joining their cult-like BTL program for 9 months, which doesn't allow you to work) - we would get to the heart of this problem, and reduce the panhandling or 'hustling' as those involved call it - it occurs because there just is a dearth of employment opportunities even for those who go out at 5 am every morning to temp agencies, and I say this as a new resident of the city who does exactly that.

I would argue this is a growing problem due to the lack of city care for the poor and refusal to confront the growing unemployment crisis - we are so focused on building huge buildings and architectural wonders that we're neglecting the need for basic jobs and care for the poor.

I have nothing against stricter punishments for prostitution (I particularly think that as with drugs, we should seek most to punish those running the operations) but I am going to emphasize that this is not the underlying issue beneath, merely a symptom of the sickness.

[BBatesokc]

Do the girls compete on their prices or is price fixing afoot? This is strictly an academic question? :-)

The price always seems to match the going rate for drugs. You can buy a rock for $20 so that is why Robinson is a $20 street.

[BBatesokc]

This seems to me akin to the subject Alphie Kohn discusses in his excellent work, "Punished by Rewards". Kohn points out that teachers, employers, and parents frequently discipline with both punishments/threats and rewards/bribes. One of the key points Kohn makes while pointing out rewards are as destructive as punishments since both are used to manipulate (that what's wrong is not the reward itself but saying "do this and get that", the process of manipulating), is that both rewards and punishments seek to manipulate a person into performing a certain action, but never confront the original problem.

In other words, whether using punishments or rewards - in this case, probably stricter punishments on prostitution - using either avoids the underlying problem. What is the underlying problem at the root of prostitution? A lack of employment opportunities. If we were to fix employment in the city, as well as the lack of shelter options (no place but the City Rescue Mission has room right now for anyone who needs it - and the CRM kicks people out for any reason, and does not allow them to stay past 30 days anyway unless joining their cult-like BTL program for 9 months, which doesn't allow you to work) - we would get to the heart of this problem, and reduce the panhandling or 'hustling' as those involved call it - it occurs because there just is a dearth of employment opportunities even for those who go out at 5 am every morning to temp agencies, and I say this as a new resident of the city who does exactly that.

I would argue this is a growing problem due to the lack of city care for the poor and refusal to confront the growing unemployment crisis - we are so focused on building huge buildings and architectural wonders that we're neglecting the need for basic jobs and care for the poor.

I have nothing against stricter punishments for prostitution (I particularly think that as with drugs, we should seek most to punish those running the operations) but I am going to emphasize that this is not the underlying issue beneath, merely a symptom of the sickness.

I certainly appreciate anyone taking the time to actually try and address the issue of prostitution. I only concern myself with public, forced and organized prostitution. My 15+ years deeply involved has taught me that employment options and shelter have very little to do with positively impacting most street level prostitution. The most immediate need is drug rehabilitation. Once they've addressed the persistent urge and routine of getting high, they then desperately need help dealing with the psychological issues of often lifelong sexual, mental and physical abuse. Beyond that you have issues with lack of education and social skills. Not to mention issues of STD's and serious ailments from longterm drug use and homelessness.

Keep in mind, the average age a woman enters street prostitution is in their teens. The older the prostitute, often means the longer the addiction and abuse.

I agree, incarceration is not the answer. But the sad reality is that police and prosecutors are not in the rehabilitation business. Prosecution is often justified because the general public deserves to have the problem addressed and until a prostitute is ready to be rehabilitated she continues to be a criminal and often a blight on society.

I have literally spent hundreds of hours (with the help of others) trying to get faith based organizations to pool their money to address this issue with a safe house and a live-in rehabilitation option. Despite the face churches put on, many would rather spend hundreds of thousands on huge crosses and Easter shows than prostitution. There are some churches with very well intentioned programs, but virtually none address this specific group.