Whole Foods

[metro]

What is artisan produce?

[Dustin]

Carrots with the stem? lol

[ljbab728]

What is artisan produce?

It's a label that allows them to charge a whole lot more money. LOL

But it basically means that it's from a small individual type of operation instead of a larger corporate organization.

[metro]

Never heard of it, and I'm a regular WF shopper

[ljbab728]

Never heard of it, and I'm a regular WF shopper

Whole Foods may not label it that way but that is the concept of Artisan.

[bombermwc]

Go to a farmer's market folks. They're all over town. I can get a zuchini the size of my arm for 50 cents from this awesome lady at the Norman one. If you're trying to "buy local" and be green and all that, even WF isn't going to be as local and green as a farmer's market. No, you can't get things all year around at a market, but if you buy fruit and veggies at WF in the winter, you're not buying local anyway. Those avocados come from Mexico folks.

[Celebrator]

Or buy from the Oklahoma Food Cooperative!

Not that I won't fill in the gaps in my shopping at WF, but the Co-Op is great! We've been members for two years and absolutely LOVE IT!

[Doug Loudenback]

I don't know if there is already a thread on the co-op, Celebrator, but if there isn't I'd like to see you start one and tell more about your experiences with the co-op. I'd not heard about it until your message and just had a quick look at their (your, actually, since you are a co-op member) website. I don't want to bog this thread down on discussing it further here, but it certainly sounds interesting.

[jmarkross]

This thread has been active for almost 6 years--based on a grocery store? Just noticed this...amazing...

[Questor]

It is a pretty amazing grocery store. :-)

[jmarkross]

it is a pretty amazing grocery store. :-)

s-i-x years? Seen them on TV...nice..but no cigar...

[metro]

I'm now pretty sure the rumored SE corner eating area, is now a separately enclosed wine and beer area. I'll try to take pics soon to depict why I think this.

[betts]

I'm now pretty sure the rumored SE corner eating area, is now a separately enclosed wine and beer area. I'll try to take pics soon to depict why I think this.

That's exactly what I think as well, after looking at it this weekend.

[foodiefan]

presume you are talking "sales". . .any thoughts as to who it might be? I know it can't be WF. . . Am I correct in thinking that there can't be multiple locations of a liquor business (i.e., like a Byron's or Bway Wine Merchants with 2 locations). Is that restriction state-wide? county-wide? city-wide? Wondering if one of the bigger stores out of city/county/state (above the level the restriction applies) might be making the plunge? Could Sam's Club come in? Their distribution network is certainly already in place!

[foodiefan]

Could Sam's Club come in? Their distribution network is certainly already in place!

Oops. . . just remembered whoever it is has to go thru the wholesaler. . .so, I'm guessing it will have to be a traditional liquor store.

[ChargerAg]

I'm now pretty sure the rumored SE corner eating area, is now a separately enclosed wine and beer area. I'll try to take pics soon to depict why I think this.

That's a bold statement and would be very cool if true. I am curious to see your logic. How would the sliding garage door on the one end fit into this design. I am also curious as to where the AC equipment would go as they structure is separate from the main one and i doubt they are going to set units on the roof of the mini structure.

[betts]

They are even working on Whole Foods today. It looks as if they're getting ready to plant trees on the Classen side. Just looking at recent activity, I think this building is going to be ready before predicted. I also do not see how Anthropologie could possibly need until February to be ready to open either. They've got someone working on it today too. I'm going to check with my source and see if the opening date has been moved up.

[metro]

That's a bold statement and would be very cool if true. I am curious to see your logic. How would the sliding garage door on the one end fit into this design. I am also curious as to where the AC equipment would go as they structure is separate from the main one and i doubt they are going to set units on the roof of the mini structure.

Because this area looks like a separately enclosed unit and I don't see any garage door that you mention. I could be wrong, but it sure looks stand alone to me. Ass far as who would operate it, whole foods would, and this would only be their first liqour store in OKlahoka if the rumor is true, so the concern above wouldn't matter.

[foodiefan]

As far as who would operate it, whole foods would, and this would only be their first liqour store in OKlahoka if the rumor is true, so the concern above wouldn't matter.

So, you are surmising that it would be, in essence, "Whole Foods Liquors and Wines" adjacent to "Whole Foods Grocery". That would be great. . . but if it's doable, I'm surprised that some of our more enterprising grocers haven't tried it. Of course, there is always the first. . .and it just might open the door to more!

[redrunner]

I thought the Oklahoma liquor laws require that the owner of a liquor store be an Oklahoma resident for the last 10 years. If that's correct I don't see Whole Foods being the owner of the liquor store.

[foodiefan]

I thought the Oklahoma liquor laws require that the owner of a liquor store be an Oklahoma resident for the last 10 years. If that's correct I don't see Whole Foods being the owner of the liquor store.

Redrunner, I think you are right. . . from the ABLE website. . .:

Except as hereinafter provided, retail sales of alcoholic beverages shall be limited to the
original sealed package, by privately owned and operated package stores, in cities and towns having a population in excess of two hundred (200) persons or by wineries; provided that wineries shall be able to sell only wine which has been produced on the winery premises. No goods, wares, or merchandise shall be sold and no services shall be rendered on the same premises on which retail package alcoholic beverages are sold. Said premises are herein defined to be the entire space in which retail package alcoholic beverages are sold or displayed and said premises must be separated from any premises on which any other goods, wares, or merchandise are sold or services rendered by walls which may only be broken by a passageway to which the public is not admitted.

And the answer to my question about a retailer having multiple locations. . . :

Not more than one retail package license shall be issued to any person or general or limited partnership

So. . . seems to exclude WF and existing retailers. .which returns to my question of "WHO"??!!

[foodiefan]

Redrunner, I think you are right. . . from the ABLE website. . .:

Except as hereinafter provided, retail sales of alcoholic beverages shall be limited to the
original sealed package, by privately owned and operated package stores, in cities and towns having a population in excess of two hundred (200) persons or by wineries; provided that wineries shall be able to sell only wine which has been produced on the winery premises. No goods, wares, or merchandise shall be sold and no services shall be rendered on the same premises on which retail package alcoholic beverages are sold. Said premises are herein defined to be the entire space in which retail package alcoholic beverages are sold or displayed and said premises must be separated from any premises on which any other goods, wares, or merchandise are sold or services rendered by walls which may only be broken by a passageway to which the public is not admitted.

And the answer to my question about a retailer having multiple locations. . . :

Not more than one retail package license shall be issued to any person or general or limited partnership

So. . . seems to exclude WF and existing retailers. .which returns to my question of "WHO"??!!

lost this somewhere in the "translation"

XXVIII–10. Restrictions on issuance of licenses
No retail package store or wholesale distributor’s license shall be issued to:
(a) A corporation, business trust or secret partnership.
(b) A person or partnership unless such person or all of the copartners including limited
partners shall have been residents of the State of Oklahoma for at least ten (10) years
immediately preceding the date of application for such license.

[betts]

Who? Aubrey McClendon????? He had a fairly large wine collection at one point in time....

As an aside, when people complain about downtown development and the good old boy network, I'd have to say it doesn't hold a candle to our liquor wholesalers/distributors.

[ChargerAg]

"Aubrey;s Liquors". That would be classic

[Pete]

I really don't think that little structure will be for liquor sales.

For one, it's very small -- maybe 500 square feet. Also, it seems to lack any HVAC on the roof. And finally, you can clearly see a retractable door on the east side on the photo below.

Looks to me like a semi-enclosed eating area: