Will the SUN Super-Nova Within the Next 30 Days?

[rag451]

His life is pretty close to carbon-neutral and he already lives under the costs he thinks will be needed to make the changes necessary. The pieces you read about his "non-green" lifestyle are ridiculous slander built to prey on the ignorance of the reader and make them associate this supposed hypocrisy with the scientific reality that we are destroying our livable climate. Then people can choose to believe what they want without ever investigating the situation.

You are talking about George W. Bush, right?

[HewenttoJared]

No, I am not. Although Bush in 2k did promise to do something about greenhouse emissions(just like his pappy)and then decide it wasn't an issue after he "beat" Gore.

[jmarkross]

He doesn't do much investigating. He just reports the findings of actual scientists and gets ridiculed for it.

Gore is a licentious, money-grubbing FRAUD of epic scale who got pissed when he lost the 2000 election and has NEVER--I repeat--NEVER worked a day in his life. He was a little rich kid--spoiled at birth--and as dumb as a brick. Maybe more massages--late at night from whores--will make him brighter...

[HewenttoJared]

If that were all true my statement would still be true. And thats why you're the best. Do you read Memebase, Jmark?

Because every time I read your posts, I see this kind of style. http://memebase.com/category/joseph-ducreux/

[rag451]

No, I am not. Although Bush in 2k did promise to do something about greenhouse emissions(just like his pappy)and then decide it wasn't an issue after he "beat" Gore.

I think President Bush had larger problems than cow-towing to political pressure to sign the Kyoto Protocol. I am amused, however, that between Bush and Gore, President Bush had the more eco-friendly home.

All politicians, regardless of their party, make 'promises' they can in no way keep because of the circumstances they face after taking the oath of office. The mark of a good public servant, however, is in part defined by the way in which they live their life. Hands down, Mr. Bush is a better steward of the earth, family man, and public servant than Mr. Gore, regardless of the outcome of the 2000 Presidential Election.

[jmarkross]

I think President Bush had larger problems than cow-towing to political pressure to sign the Kyoto Protocol. I am amused, however, that between Bush and Gore, President Bush had the more eco-friendly home.

All politicians, regardless of their party, make 'promises' they can in no way keep because of the circumstances they face after taking the oath of office. The mark of a good public servant, however, is in part defined by the way in which they live their life. Hands down, Mr. Bush is a better steward of the earth, family man, and public servant than Mr. Gore, regardless of the outcome of the 2000 Presidential Election.

Regarding Kyoto...how did it fare when the US Senate voted on it? Did the Republican-Democrat debate cause an uproar--did the democrats stand resolutely for it's passage? What was the final left-right count there?

[HewenttoJared]

I think President Bush had larger problems than cow-towing to political pressure to sign the Kyoto Protocol. I am amused, however, that between Bush and Gore, President Bush had the more eco-friendly home.

All politicians, regardless of their party, make 'promises' they can in no way keep because of the circumstances they face after taking the oath of office. The mark of a good public servant, however, is in part defined by the way in which they live their life. Hands down, Mr. Bush is a better steward of the earth, family man, and public servant than Mr. Gore, regardless of the outcome of the 2000 Presidential Election.

No, he really isn't. Neither are his policies.

[bandnerd]

Gore is a licentious, money-grubbing FRAUD of epic scale who got pissed when he lost the 2000 election and has NEVER--I repeat--NEVER worked a day in his life. He was a little rich kid--spoiled at birth--and as dumb as a brick. Maybe more massages--late at night from whores--will make him brighter...

Manbearpig.

[jn1780]

The sun isn't big enough to go super-nova. Right now the sun is going through its 11 year cycle which peaks out around May 2013. There are some scientist who think we could see above average solar storms during this period. A really bad solar storm can screw up our power grid and electronics.

There was a really big solar storm in 1859 that caused telegraph lines to spark. Imagine if that storm hit in the modern era. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859

[Midtowner]

This is a 2-page thread.

That's how I know the world is coming to an end.

[CuatrodeMayo]

No joke. And not surprisingly it has already been sucked into the black hole of political debate like many unfortunate threads on this site...

[jn1780]

No joke. And not surprisingly it has already been sucked into the black hole of political debate like many unfortunate threads on this site...

Makes sense. Super Novas collapse into black holes. LOL

[ljbab728]

It's global warming. Now we're affecting the sun.

[OKCisOK4me]

http://m.yahoo.com/w/ygo-frontpage/l...tl=US&.lang=en

Everything will be just fine...

[MikeOKC]

http://m.yahoo.com/w/ygo-frontpage/l...tl=US&.lang=en

Everything will be just fine...

Let's hope this is what's happening. I've debated posting my thoughts about this for obvious reasons once you read my post.

When I know we're in the midst of severe solar flare-ups (as we are now), under the solar equivalent of a Severe thunderstorm Warning, I get a little nervous. A "Tornado warning" could be right behind it. I'll be honest, not too many things can get me to thinking "doomsday-like" things more than the Sun. It's not a Supernova I'm concerned about, it's the solar storms. Just sticking with the science - no "pseudoscience" here - the thought of another 1859 solar eruption is never far from my mind. It's something that the world has failed to prepare for as we have moved into this brave new world of technology-driven lives. The simple fact is that if we had a Carrington event (1859 solar storm) today (and you only get about a 24-hour notice) -- it would destroy the world as we know it for many, many years to come. Failure to prepare for an event like this is a failure of not those who use and appreciate technology, it's a failure of those who have made key decisions in several of the world's developed nations to forge ahead with a technology-driven planet - without preparing for a solar doomsday. It's called gambling.


If you're up to reading the truth about how big of a gamble it really is - here you go:
What If the Biggest Solar Storm on Record Happened Today? (National Geographic)

Ignoring it and simply hoping that another Carrington is hundreds of years away is folly.

Sleep well. This isn't science fiction.

[Snowman]

Just a thought...someone whose opinion I respect who is well-acquainted with the Solar System....says he sees a problem with the Sun...

Tell them to stop looking at the sun, the damage to their eyes is almost certainly more dangerous than whatever they perceive they are seeing.

[jmarkross]

Tell them to stop looking at the sun, the damage to their eyes is almost certainly more dangerous than whatever they perceive they are seeing.

So true--just look what happened in "The Day of the Triffids"...

[jmarkross]

News on the sun...interesting...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/14/ice_age/

[jn1780]

Well, obviously the sun going supernova or massive solar storms conflict with the ice age theory. They can't all happen.

[Thunder]

We will go into another Ice Age possibility within our lifetime, but we won't know how much of it will be.

[Phoenix59]

The sun will never go supernova, according to current understanding of how stars work. It doesn't have enough mass. At minimum a star needs to exceed what is known as Chandrasekhar's Limit (1.38 solar masses) in order to become a supernova. More information here.

[ljbab728]

The sun will never go supernova, according to current understanding of how stars work. It doesn't have enough mass. At minimum a star needs to exceed what is known as Chandrasekhar's Limit (1.38 solar masses) in order to become a supernova. More information here.

And there you go ruining a perfectly good thread with facts. LOL

[MikeOKC]

And there you go ruining a perfectly good thread with facts. LOL

Actually, the last few posts have been about the concern that is absolutely real - not supernova of the Sun, but solar storms like 1859. See my post above. It's real science.

[Jesseda]

We are living in a cosmic supernova world, that is so "Stellar" ..

[UnFrSaKn]

Read the title of this thread and expected Thunder to be the author.

Maybe this will happen instead.