Prostitution In OKC

[ParrWh]

Well to repond to this thread this is really a shameful law to have on the books period I undeserstand when you have underage girls being out in this lifestyle thats illegal and shuld be dealt with severely but on the other hand a woman choosing to do as she wishes with her body and a man making a choice shouldnt be a crime and punishable unless again Underaged on park and church grounds....I have really thought of BBates personal mission and efforts to stop Prostitution in OKC but you must realize it was here before you and will be after you gone and you really need feel fortunate because if you think its smart and heroic to put yours and your families lives in danger you should ask is it worth it....How can you feel you are helping people when your working with police and DA's office to create programs and outlets and give job opportunities to them....but thats not your goal its the goal of yours to embarrass be in other people business and personally get your personal thrills....You are not trying to help anyone you expose Bates and you have ruined so many lives and you really need to redirect your focus by establishing help and assistance for people who might truly need help not degrading them

[LM401]

I really don't understand these personal attacks on Mr. Bates. I find him to be well-spoken and courteous in all of this posts. Also, no matter your opinion, prostitution is illegal. If this element was in my neighborhood or outside my window, I would welcome Mr. Bates to do what he does. Lastly, these people choose to participate in these illegal activities that he catches on video so they need to take responsibility if their lives are ruined or if they get embarrassed. People need to take responsibility for their actions and choices. Hey, if I get caught speeding then I will get a speeding ticket. That's the law.

[blangtang]

How many bags of single serve Fritos does a hooker cost? -- that was a bad joke from a couple years ago!


“Right now there are hundreds of girls all across Atlanta and this region who are waiting in hotel rooms to be purchased by men on the Internet,” said Representative Buzz Brockway, from the suburbs northeast of the city.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...n-woolner.html

[Bunty]

I always hear the B.S. about 'what about dude's with no sex appeal or communication skills." Problem is, 80% of the men I catch and almost 90% of the men OCPD catches are already married. Yeah, I know, its their wive's fault (sarcasm).

It's not BS to whatever percentage of the dudes who lack sex appeal and/or communication skills.

I bet a good number of those married men going to prostitutes have a greater than average sex drive and want sexual intercourse more often than, lets's say, once every day. So they're not going to get any when the wife is at work or out of town. Going to a prostitute in response is a pretty bad thing to be doing, unless the wife knows about it and approves of it.

[BBatesokc]

It's not BS to whatever percentage of the dudes who lack sex appeal and/or communication skills.

I bet a good number of those married men going to prostitutes have a greater than average sex drive and want sexual intercourse more often than, lets's say, once every day. So they're not going to get any when the wife is at work or out of town. Going to a prostitute in response is a pretty bad thing to be doing, unless the wife knows about it and approves of it.

From my reading, interviewing etc. I find those that focus on street prostitutes it really doesn't come done to sex drive - it is far more deviant.

However, like I've said over and over again, I take no stance against private and consensual 'escorts.'

[BBatesokc]

Well to repond to this thread this is really a shameful law to have on the books period I undeserstand when you have underage girls being out in this lifestyle thats illegal and shuld be dealt with severely but on the other hand a woman choosing to do as she wishes with her body and a man making a choice shouldnt be a crime and punishable unless again Underaged on park and church grounds....I have really thought of BBates personal mission and efforts to stop Prostitution in OKC but you must realize it was here before you and will be after you gone and you really need feel fortunate because if you think its smart and heroic to put yours and your families lives in danger you should ask is it worth it....How can you feel you are helping people when your working with police and DA's office to create programs and outlets and give job opportunities to them....but thats not your goal its the goal of yours to embarrass be in other people business and personally get your personal thrills....You are not trying to help anyone you expose Bates and you have ruined so many lives and you really need to redirect your focus by establishing help and assistance for people who might truly need help not degrading them

Actually, there is nothing 'shameful' about our laws against prostitution. What would be shameful would be laws that encourage prostitution and justify others desires to victimize and turn our government into these lady's pimp. Decriminalization in some instances might be a step in the right direction however.

Actually, my family, who certainly know more about me and my activism than you, are behind me 100%. The fact I've been very active for 15 years without so much as a scratch shows I'm not only very lucky but use a very level head when doing what I do. Your comments show you actually know nothing about my activism, yet you claim to have given much thought. Not once do I claim to be trying to end prostitution (that's pretty unrealistic). If you had actually paid attention to my goal then certainly you would have read it on my site (where it has been for a long time)...

The goal of Mr. Bates and JohnTV.com® is not to put an end to prostitution as that is an unrealistic goal. The purpose of JohnTV® is to put a spotlight on the graphic realities of street prostitution, expose the perpetrators and dispel the myths that further the abuse.
JohnTV® works to achieve that goal by lifting the veil of anonymity that empowers the Johns by exposing them on this site.
The motto of this site is, “You pay to play and you’re here to stay!”

Actually, you have no idea what I do because you only know what gets posted to YouTube or JohnTV or some rant posted by some other critic who is as clueless as you and then you fill in the blanks with your own bias. You want to better know what I do, the extent of the real problem, etc. then I welcome you to sit in on one of my many speaking engagements. I will be at UCO next week addressing journalism students and after that I'm being interviewed for a research study at OU. Send me a message and I'll give you the date and time.

As for lives ruined - I don't know about you, but I was always raised that people have to take responsibility for their own actions. I'm contacted by many of the wives and family members of the Johns I have exposed and not once has one said they wished I hadn't contacted them or made them aware of what was going on. Furthermore, I invite you to join my JohnTVokc FaceBook page. Lots more information there and there are MANY former Robinson prostitutes who are active there and they do not share you misguided opinion.

[ParrWh]

Well tell us more about your success stories and programs created from your activities from which you indulge? Any safe homes or places you have offered to open and assist with with out fear prosecution and being put on YouTube and JohnTV and all if you really REALLY wanted to help people go out and get these shelters and safe places and educational facilities open but naw I don't see you doing that at all you just think that by exposing and harassing people will change them C'MON MAN get real your a fraud until you do otherwise

[Thunder]

Brian was on the Jerry Springer show. Am I right? Or was it Maury's? I saw him on one of those shows. He's famous. Really famous!

[ParrWh]

Brian was on the Jerry Springer show. Am I right? Or was it Maury's? I saw him on one of those shows. He's famous. Really famous!

I like that THUNDER yes Springer Maury it really bothers me Thunder that he BATES is the CRIMINAL and is committing acts and LEWDNESS and needs to be called out he IS FAKE hasn't done a thing to help people at all....ONE DAY THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT ON HIM

[USG'60]

I like that THUNDER yes Springer Maury it really bothers me Thunder that he BATES is the CRIMINAL and is committing acts and LEWDNESS and needs to be called out he IS FAKE hasn't done a thing to help people at all....ONE DAY THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT ON HIM

I can make no sense of this. Is English your native language?

[ParrWh]

I can make no sense of this. Is English your native language?

USG 60 im saying so you will understand Bates is a fraud Fake and the TRUTH WILL SOON COME OUT ON HIM

[kevinpate]

.oO(If someone is a 'fraud Fake', seems to me that would mean they're actually the real deal and not a fake at all. All in all, not the clearest of descriptions.)Oo.

[USG'60]

I like that THUNDER yes Springer Maury it really bothers me Thunder that he BATES is the CRIMINAL and is committing acts and LEWDNESS and needs to be called out he IS FAKE hasn't done a thing to help people at all....ONE DAY THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT ON HIM

This is the worst constructed sentence in all of OKCTalk. One can sorta determine what it is saying but just sorta. Did you get any English credits before you dropped out of Middle School? Learn to express yourself so others can know what you are MEANING to say.

[Thunder]

I don't think people should be making fun of how people construct sentences... Such person under attack may have Autism. There are several reasons, but never make fun of how people put into words.

[USG'60]

I don't think people should be making fun of how people construct sentences... Such person under attack may have Autism. There are several reasons, but never make fun of how people put into words.

You're a hoot, li'l bro. I love ya.

[BBatesokc]

Brian was on the Jerry Springer show. Am I right? Or was it Maury's? I saw him on one of those shows. He's famous. Really famous!

Its Maury - I've been a regular guest and under contract with them since 2002. Lost count of the number of appearances but a couple dozen at least.

[BBatesokc]

Well tell us more about your success stories and programs created from your activities from which you indulge? Any safe homes or places you have offered to open and assist with with out fear prosecution and being put on YouTube and JohnTV and all if you really REALLY wanted to help people go out and get these shelters and safe places and educational facilities open but naw I don't see you doing that at all you just think that by exposing and harassing people will change them C'MON MAN get real your a fraud until you do otherwise

You make no sense at all, literally and figuratively. I'm guessing from your irrational ranting that you must have been caught on the business end of my camera's lens. "Fake," "Fraud" - ????? The videos are very much real, my dedication to this issue is very much real and long lasting and my goal is clearly stated and doesn't mention any of the things you seem to want me to prove. Where have I ever proclaimed my goal is to save anyone, start any programs etc.? Seems like I live up to every goal I state which would make me anything other than a fraud or a fake.

I clearly told you to email me and I'll make sure you have a personal invitation to my next public speaking engagement. But, you didn't - maybe the fraud and fake is you - you know, the turd hiding behind the Internet.

FYI - this fake and fraud spent the day at the Oklahoma Regional Food Bank packing weekend take home meals for elementary kids who can only count on meals at school and without these take home packs would often not get to eat all weekend - I packed 1,000+. What did you do?

[ParrWh]

You make no sense at all, literally and figuratively. I'm guessing from your irrational ranting that you must have been caught on the business end of my camera's lens. "Fake," "Fraud" - ????? The videos are very much real, my dedication to this issue is very much real and long lasting and my goal is clearly stated and doesn't mention any of the things you seem to want me to prove. Where have I ever proclaimed my goal is to save anyone, start any programs etc.? Seems like I live up to every goal I state which would make me anything other than a fraud or a fake.

I clearly told you to email me and I'll make sure you have a personal invitation to my next public speaking engagement. But, you didn't - maybe the fraud and fake is you - you know, the turd hiding behind the Internet.

FYI - this fake and fraud spent the day at the Oklahoma Regional Food Bank packing weekend take home meals for elementary kids who can only count on meals at school and without these take home packs would often not get to eat all weekend - I packed 1,000+. What did you do?

I didnt ask about the meals and food bank Bates I ask about you helping the same people your harassing on a daily basis? Yes it may be considered a rant but you know the true you and what your about and your very hypocritical.... So instead of going to speaking engagement and misleading people about your community activism how about establishing safe shelters for abuse women and children of this so called horrible crime....I would really commend your actions if it was done with the HEART and MIND to lift people up not KICK them when they are down....You should really access your mission and ask yourself am I really helping to change peoples lives in a positive or negative way and I believe your sites and your going through arrest and crime records to embarrass and harass is low life and unacceptable but again you continue on and doing what your doing getting your thrills from someone elses troubles and trying time is really low down

[BBatesokc]

I didnt ask about the meals and food bank Bates I ask about you helping the same people your harassing on a daily basis? Yes it may be considered a rant but you know the true you and what your about and your very hypocritical.... So instead of going to speaking engagement and misleading people about your community activism how about establishing safe shelters for abuse women and children of this so called horrible crime....I would really commend your actions if it was done with the HEART and MIND to lift people up not KICK them when they are down....You should really access your mission and ask yourself am I really helping to change peoples lives in a positive or negative way and I believe your sites and your going through arrest and crime records to embarrass and harass is low life and unacceptable but again you continue on and doing what your doing getting your thrills from someone elses troubles and trying time is really low down

Opening shelters isn't my gig and I've never pretended it to be. You are placing expectations on me that I've never taken on. How have I mislead anyone about my activism? My goal is clearly spelled out (a skill you've yet to learn) and not misleading or hypocritical one bit. I'm not qualified and have zero interest in setting up shelters. If it were that easy then we'd have qualified shelters for these women, but we don't.

I've invited you to learn more about my activism and invited you to join my FaceBook. There you will find several of the women that were targets of my camera in the past and not a single one has had anything negative to say about it. Some joined the page simply to let me know they had turned their lives around and from knowing me they knew I'd actually want to know how they are doing.

You don't have to like it, and I personally don't care. What is obvious is you are an illiterate coward and much like the 'Johns' use anonymity as your empowerment. Unless you can bring some facts to the table, I'm done with you.

[ParrWh]

Opening shelters isn't my gig and I've never pretended it to be. You are placing expectations on me that I've never taken on. How have I mislead anyone about my activism? My goal is clearly spelled out (a skill you've yet to learn) and not misleading or hypocritical one bit. I'm not qualified and have zero interest in setting up shelters. If it were that easy then we'd have qualified shelters for these women, but we don't.

I've invited you to learn more about my activism and invited you to join my FaceBook. There you will find several of the women that were targets of my camera in the past and not a single one has had anything negative to say about it. Some joined the page simply to let me know they had turned their lives around and from knowing me they knew I'd actually want to know how they are doing.

You don't have to like it, and I personally don't care. What is obvious is you are an illiterate coward and much like the 'Johns' use anonymity as your empowerment. Unless you can bring some facts to the table, I'm done with you.

Well you should consider doing something to help those people you call yourself exposing....You wanna tell people they need to change their lives and how they are living wrong but your not giving them or providing material and places for them to go to get help your just using your cam and trying to believe your making a difference....again as I mention to you if you wanna call yourself making a difference help them and others by directing them to places that could really change their lives....Until then you have NO PURPOSE and there is NO MEANING to your front as community activist....See your so called gig is worthless if its not to help people turn there lives around for the better....I believe people should wanna change before it can happen but since your in the business of trying to force change on them why not be more proactive in help your so called community...I mean since you have so many so called contacts and access to resources and referral literature.... You know DA's police council members lawmakers Bates how about truly going to BAT and using access to GRANT MONEY to do something POSITIVE... not break up families and destroy people opportunities to better themselves....If you would commit to something like this then im all for what your doing and I would support your cause to help people not HURT people because you know you can....Think about it as you noticed i didn't do any name calling....So again start honestly helping change lives and making a real difference with video that show success instead of getting ARREST RECORDS and CRIMINAL REPORTS to blast people then again i will gladly come to your speaking seminars and meetings to HELP people NOT Humiliate and embarrass them....

[BBatesokc]

Again, you come with nothing. I would think your Langston education would have taught you how to construct a sentence and at least forward a point.

[Martin]

let's cut it out with the personal stuff. we get it, parrwh. you don't like bbatesokc. now back to topic. -M

[BBatesokc]

Back on topic of OKC prostitution..... At 3am a street prostitute named Lori Green (39) was murdered near 410 SW Grand Blvd. (FYI - that address appears on the sex offender registry). According to my source: She was murdered by a John she tried to rob. He strangled her and then had sex with the corpse. That is how he was found by friends of Green's - Who promptly removed him from the car and beat the crap out of him.

Very sad. i knew Lori and she could be a very pleasant person, but was very much a drug addict (but also a mother).

This is the 13th prostitute I've personally known that is now dead.

[Bill Robertson]

As much as I hate to bring back dead threads I have to comment on this. I do a lot of business at a motorcycle shop on south Robinson. ( I don't know if they would want to be mentioned in a thread about prostitutes but if you know the area you know the shop). I have noticed that this spring/summer there have been way fewer prostitutes in the area of SW 30th to SW 44th on Robinson. I don't know if it's due to some combination of police, Brian's efforts, simple timing or what but the area is not nearly as bad as it's been the past couple of years.

[BBatesokc]

As much as I hate to bring back dead threads I have to comment on this. I do a lot of business at a motorcycle shop on south Robinson. ( I don't know if they would want to be mentioned in a thread about prostitutes but if you know the area you know the shop). I have noticed that this spring/summer there have been way fewer prostitutes in the area of SW 30th to SW 44th on Robinson. I don't know if it's due to some combination of police, Brian's efforts, simple timing or what but the area is not nearly as bad as it's been the past couple of years.

No one factor makes much difference, but combined efforts of police, citizens and business owners has a huge impact. As for now vs. then, some days the streets are deserted and others they are packed. The other day I turned on my camera and made one pass and recorded 18 hookers in 4 blocks all out at the same time. Yet a week ago a large studio was in town riding with me and they had to extend their stay by 3 days just to get hardly any footage at all.

One thing I like is the city is now prosecuting many of the cases instead of the county. This has a huge impact and is far less costly to tax payers, IMO.