LEAST favorite news team

[EdwardEll]

Really was trying to make lighthearted fun of the matter;

However, wish to apologize if you misunderstood my intentions...Please accept my apologies...

No disrespect was intended...

I agree that you are entitled to your opinion..

sincerely,

ed

[Randy]

Ok I have to jump in here too,I know this is for the News Team.I really don't have issues with the Anchors But oh My GAWD ACK!!!!I cannot STAND Rick Mitchell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would much rather watch Rick Mitchell anyday over the phony, Mike Morgan. Actually, as far as that goes, Mike and Linda Cavanaugh can leave anytime and it wouldn't hurt my feelings.

[Jack]

Most of our local news stations don't really report news. The boondoggles of OCURA, the fake Crosstown emergency, things like that -- those are news. Someone has a car wreck, a set of twins, someone shoots someone else, etc.. not news.

I'd say #4 is the worst, but they're all pretty bad.

Any proof to back up that our stations are pretty bad, among those across the country?

[Jack]

Mike Morgan always goes overboard. If it's going to snow, by golly, we're going to have 12 inches. He overdramatizes everthing.

[Randy]

Any proof to back up that our stations are pretty bad, among those across the country?

I doubt that there is any proof to be found. The TV stations in Okla. City are some of the best stations in the U.S. All three of the major news channels, KWTV, KFOR, and KOCO, have all won numerous awards for their broadcasting and professionalism. By far, we have the best stations and the best news coverage anywhere.

[EdwardEll]

These television awards have reached a point of dubious credibility, why because the tv news directors themselves vote for the awards...kind of like the old "Outstanding Young Men and Women" yearbooks....chosen by those named to the awards....ie vanity press.

[Midtowner]

Any proof to back up that our stations are pretty bad, among those across the country?

Did you ever learn the difference between subjective and objective reality?

[Randy]

Did you ever learn the difference between subjective and objective reality?

Subjective and objective reality? C'mon now, we need to see some facts, not just some opinion .

[Midtowner]

Randy:

Good/better/best are qualitative values often defined by subjective observations. In other words, what is good or bad in a news team will often vary between individuals. When I say that I value 'hard news', e.g., business, politics, revelation of corruption and scandal instead of cheerleading, reporting releases as 'news' when handed to you by said corrupt officials, not taking into account the media's important role in society, and instead operating to keep advertisers happy (remember the roads and bridges campaign?), there we have subjective values (good ones) that will render a news station inferior to some.

Now, if what you like in a local newscast is consumer warnings, a good sports and weather report, coupled with the verbatim reading of news releases of lobbyists seeking to pressure people into voting to give them handouts, by all means, we have terrific newscasts.

If you want to examine the issue objectively, I suppose you could look at the budgets that our news programs have, number of stories with on-air reporters, number of stories actually done at the station level (versus VOSOT's, VO's, etc. done entirely from network footage), you'll see trends downward as stations have begun to rely more and more on network footage.

http://www.stateofthenewsmedia.org/2...?cat=2&media=6

As for our local stations, however, no such research has been done that I'm aware of. Subjective observations are about as good as anyone can do -- if you can do better, please post links.


But if you'd like facts, I'd say it's fairly sad that CNN reports the brush fires before our local news.

[Jack]

That doesn't show me that our stations are among the worst in the nation. Show me some facts. Show me some reports to back up your statements. So far we have one poster proving his point mentioning the many awards our stations have won. Give us some facts to back up your side of the story. So far, it doesn't seem like you have any, other than you're own personal opinions which you seem to think justify your statements. We need facts, not opinions.

[Midtowner]

Jack, I went to considerable effort to explain to you the difference between subjective and objective values, but either you are stubbornly trying to prove some sort of point or lack the capacity to comprehend. I'd tend to think the former.

Either way, there's not a lot I can do to help you there.

[Randy]

or lack the capacity to comprehend. I'd tend to think the former.

Either way, there's not a lot I can do to help you there.

Insulting someone else's intelligence. All we were wanting were facts, not opinions, to back up what you said. If you don't have any, just admit it.

[Midtowner]

Please see post #34, and please learn to read.

Thanks.

[Randy]

Please see post #34, and please learn to read.

Thanks.

I did read post #34, and all it says to use are subjective observations. Observations carry no facts, only opinions of the observer. Also, do you have any proof that CNN beat our local stations in reporting the grass fires? I think not. It is all heresay. Just because you don't think much of our local news, doesn't mean the rest of us don't.

[sweetdaisy]

Actually, CNN did beat our locals to the reporting of the grassfires (strange, but true). Probably b/c of the fires in Texas.

[Midtowner]

Did I ever allege that I had subjective facts or proof? You asked for them, I said they didn't exist, that I had made the objective observations that seemed to be called for by the OP. You failed to recognize that, hence I observed that there are two possible reasons for your behavior as I stated in #36.

[Raspberry]

Actually, CNN did beat our locals to the reporting of the grassfires (strange, but true). Probably b/c of the fires in Texas.

Channel 5 reported the fire in Mustang during their 12 noon news.... before firefighters even arrived. I doubt CNN was aware of it before then, and if they were, it was only by a matter of minutes.

[sweetdaisy]

My bad. Apparently, I missed that newscast. Funny enough, some of our out-of-state family contacted us to make sure we were okay before we even knew of the fires.

Thanks for setting me straight, Raspberry!

[JBGood]

"Channel 5 reported the fire in Mustang during their 12 noon news.... before firefighters even arrived. I doubt CNN was aware of it before then, and if they were, it was only by a matter of minutes."

I assume they had footage from SKY 5...Bwwwwhahahahahahahahahah

[Yodachaos]

I like Kelly Ogle's comments. He says the Truth.

Gary England is also good as well. would not be the same without him.

[shane453]

I'm not a big fan of Rick Mitchell either. There was one severe weather day where he kept going on about how their radar can zoom in to the streets, and he was calling out every single area where there was hail. And he had a man operating the computer that he was being a little rude to.

News9 is my favorite station, with Gary, Kelly, Amy, Jed... The talk show format of their morning news used to bother me but they've gotten better. My 2 Cents has now been copied by 4.

KFor seems the worst to me, but that could just be because it's the worst color reception that I get.

Sometimes I like KOCO and sometimes I don't. They're definitely the most urban looking, I think, if that makes sense.

And don't forget the FoxNews. They have high quality stories and a lot more national/world coverage. Their weather technology isn't as good, but I enjoy watching their interesting stories. And they have 9-10:30 weeknights.

[EdwardEll]

in general, the KOCO newsreaders all have one problem....they forgot to read in the broadcast 101 guide....speak slowly and carefully with as few words needed to describe the event....the KOCO people all speak too rapidly and need to slow down...

[revbrett]

Every last friggin' one of them.

[metro]

Channel 9, its outdated and cheesy. The anchors keep that hick image of Oklahoma going. While one might not like all the anchors on 4 or 5, they do have a better format and set, the content is a little better too, I prefer channel 5

[keving]

I'm not a fan of Channel 9 either. I also dislike Kelly Ogle's My Two Cents commentaries.

I thought newscasters were to present the news in an objective, professional manner. Not personal commentaries.