Maps IV

[G.Walker]

It is evident, that to continue our momentum, a MAPS IV proposal will be implemented within the coming years, so my question, is that what initiatives should be addressed in MAPS IV?

Since the previous MAPS programs have addressed our school system, public amenities, and infrastructure, I am curious as to what our city politicians will address in round 4.

My MAPS IV Initiatives that I would propose:

1. New Fire/Police Stations Across City
2. Adventure District Expansion
3. Urban Decayed Neighborhood Rejuvenation Project
4. Class "A" Office Park (Advised by OKC Chamber of Commerce)
5. Buried Power Lines Project

[Midtowner]

It's a tad early.

Let's see if the city council can come through with the promises they've made thus far. If they fail, I will not support a MAPS IV.

[Spartan]

Buried utilities create nightmares later on. Urbanists generally drink the koolaid on that all together, but I've never liked those. Public safety already has a dedicated sales tax. The MAPS penny has always been about economic development. The Adventure District seems like a cliche MAPS idea, it's always been there..a new museum or whatever will always be considered, when the Adventure District has more than enough now and just needs to find some way to turn them into real museums that are actual draws, and not just something you go to once as a kid.

And above all, GOD, I just hope MAPS3 stays exactly as it is/was intended. That's going to take political capital right now because the council was incredibly naive to think the political makeup wouldn't change down the road. They chose flexibility for themselves at the cost of giving huge flexibility to others, and that was a mistake.

[G.Walker]

Buried utilities create nightmares later on. Urbanists generally drink the koolaid on that all together, but I've never liked those. Public safety already has a dedicated sales tax. The MAPS penny has always been about economic development. The Adventure District seems like a cliche MAPS idea, it's always been there..a new museum or whatever will always be considered, when the Adventure District has more than enough now and just needs to find some way to turn them into real museums that are actual draws, and not just something you go to once as a kid.

And above all, GOD, I just hope MAPS3 stays exactly as it is/was intended. That's going to take political capital right now because the council was incredibly naive to think the political makeup wouldn't change down the road. They chose flexibility for themselves at the cost of giving huge flexibility to others, and that was a mistake.

I know that the Adventure District is a joke, that is why it needs expansion, lol...

[onthestrip]

Maps3 is for 7 years so we might be jumping the gun a bit, but Ill go ahead and throw out an opinion. New fire/police stations will probably ha_e to be included to get support and to a_oid another "not this maps". I like the idea of expanding the ad_enture district and neighborhood reju_enation. Not sure that the city should be in_ol_ed with de_eloping an office park though and Im not sure about the power line burying either. One thing that is missing that I see being a big component of the next maps is money going to transportation. Transportation surely will be the biggest part of Maps 4.

Sorry about the undersores, a certain letter isnt working on the keyboard.

[BG918]

Maybe buried power lines in certain districts that are also seeing a streetscape. I'm sure the costs are high which is why they don't do it.

[G.Walker]

A lot of other cities fund office parks, to attract major employers to the area, that is why I think it would be a good idea. Also, would propose burying power lines across the whole city, but in certain areas.

[Spartan]

Those cities usually tend to be suburbs of big cities attempting to lure companies already settled into the region, though. Still, I'm not saying it wouldn't be beneficial for OKC to implement some of the same strategies used by fast-growing suburbs.

As for the burying power lines, I would hope that is never done all throughout the city, and I hope that isn't done anymore through downtown either. Buried utilities just create more nightmares than they can ever circumvent. Just look at Project 180 right now.

I also agree that MAPS 4 should include a massive streetcar funding mechanism (with a federal match), and possibly be coupled with OKC's contribution to a regional LRT system funding mechanism. Transit is going to become a bigger and bigger deal.

This time around, we finally addressed it in a sustainable way for the first time in 70-80 years, and it was only 1/7 of the total vision. The commitment is going to get larger and reap even larger rewards.

[shane453]

Yep, depending on what happens with oil/gas prices, how OKC responds to streetcar, and how much our demand for transit increases in the next 7 years, I can even see a plausible case for "MAPS for Transit" to fix the buses, expand streetcars, and fund OKC portions of commuter rail.

[flintysooner]

I would love to see a $1Bil Complete Streets project throughout the city. Upgrade all bus stops, pedestrian accessibility, narrow roads, bike lanes, and add form based comprehensive planning along it to sew it all up.

The 2007 bond election was for $835.5 million. I think a lot of it remains to be done.

[Kerry]

I am going to go out on a limb and predict that there will not be a MAPS IV.

[OKCRT]

A new dowtown Domed/sliding roof stadium so we can get some real football,amongst other things in these parts.

How does Super Bowl 2025 sound?

[jn1780]

The NFL owners want to add two more games because of their expensive stadiums.

[dmoor82]

NFL in OKC will never happen in my lifetime! Now eventually in the next decade or two The OKC Thunder will need a new arena!

[OKCisOK4me]

The NFL owners want to add two more games because of their expensive stadiums.

Personally, I think it's just stupid to have four preseason games. I doubt the NFL will ever come to Oklahoma City.

[mcca7596]

I'd rather have MLB personally, but honestly the NHL is the only league that realistically could come within the next 5 or 10 years. Even it might draw away too many fans from the Thunder.

[G.Walker]

Some early C2S layouts included a football stadium...let me see if I can locate them...

[G.Walker]

[dmoor82]

A football stadium would only be good for OU-OSU or OU-TU,OSU-TU football games and maybe a bowl game!There is NO chance OKC builds a football stadium!Maybe in The future when OKC hits around 2-3 million metro but even then it's a stretch!

[dmoor82]

How long even after The renovations will Clay and Co.and The Thunder want a new arena?This could be on a future MAPS ballot!

[MIKELS129]

I am going to go out on a limb and predict that there will not be a MAPS IV.

I agree...

[Kerry]

The best chance OKC has at another top level pro sports is auto racing and soccer. If all these people trying to bring every minor league sport under the sun to OKC would just get together they could bring in MLS.

[kevinpate]

I am going to go out on a limb and predict that there will not be a MAPS IV.

Recent weeks have me concerned you are not way out on a limb, but are perched instead on a rather sturdy branch.

[shane453]

I would support taking a break from MAPS in exchange for a permanent Oklahoma County half-penny tax to fund transit capital projects and operations. Would be a good idea for Cleveland County too, but maybe they only need .25%

[bombermwc]

I'd like to see transportation....expand light rail to an actual commuter line...make it worth something. I'd also like to see a massive repaving project. Put some real effort into getting our roads up to par. Yes, it's more temporary than say an arena, but it's never going to happen otherwise. Same goes for putting sidewalks in.

I'd also like to see the traffic light linking done. I'm so tired of how many lights ignore each other...you get a green only to be stuck 300 feet later at a red. ARGH