Access has never been a problem. That's just an excuss previous CRM owners used to deflect from their own poor management. Its more difficult to access Penn Square Mall today(traffic) than it was to access Crossroads Mall at its prime.
Access has never been a problem. That's just an excuss previous CRM owners used to deflect from their own poor management. Its more difficult to access Penn Square Mall today(traffic) than it was to access Crossroads Mall at its prime.
I don't think it is just an excuse, i know I stopped going there when ODOT made things more difficult (agree that management didn't help matters any)
I never had access issues, but they did run out of stores of interest to me. I've only been one time since Dillard's shut down, and that's been a while now.
Hey, it's your opinion, but access is something people have complained about for a long time. It's not that it's a huge thing, but it is a contributing factor. If somehwere is difficult to get to, who wants to go there?
Thunder - Penn is accessed from the NWXway exit when you're going westbound. it's closed right now for construction, but you also have the option 1/4 mile up the road of Classen. The both put you on the NWXway about 1/4 mile from the entrance....without making and turns. That's the big difference, you don't have to go through a whole maze to get there. East-bound, don't know cause i've never gone that way, but i beileve they can use the classen exit as well. Still half the work that a crossroads exit is.
Agreed, even if coming from south, (Penn), I'd go across NW Exprwy and go into that entrance. Never had much cause to use the one along NW Expressway, but w/ the new lights there and all, its easier than before. IMHO.
How is Crossroads still open? Anybody been to look at how many stores that are there now?
It's all in who you talk to I guess. I've heard family and others complain about it as long as I've been alive. Even as a 5 year old going with my grandma, I felt like it was a lot of work to get there.
Soonerman - there are actually quite a few stores left in there. I'd say it's about 1/3 occupied. Of course without any anchors, it's a LOT more dead inside. There are always more families playing in the kid area than in the rest of the place combined.
These buildings they own are most likely already paid for. They just need to do a bit more advertising and creative. The mall is not a lost case, because it can be revived somehow into something different.
Not to mention the fact that ALL of the buildings on that portion of the frontage road will be taken out for the new interchange. So Best Buy, the hotels, Texas Roadhouse...they're all going. The Theater is far enough away that I think it's staying, but the other stuff that butts up to the north bound ramp....they're gonna be outta here.
Best Buy - if they move to the old CC, you'll see a downsize. That shows something about how the sales in that store have gone down since the MWC and Moore stores opened.
Thunder - how quickly you've gone from saying Crossroads was alive again to being the first in line to kill her off.
So they want to destroy the strip there for an interchange that will never come for years, but I think its wrong to destroy the hotel and the restaurant.
I stil lsay its odd about toysrus, the manager told me aq couple months ago that that location was going to remain open since the the moore location fell through, they where going to relocate to the shoppes in moore where hobby lobby is now, but they didnt go through with it, so if they are now planning on going to moore, where would it be at now? I dont see them building any stand alone building in moore, so what shopping enter would they be moving to? there isnt anything panned in stonfe for another large shopping center to be built in moore, except for the target store.. I dont see toysrus leaving the crossroads mall area anytime soon to move to moore
I thought the interchange plan perserved those buildings? I remember people complaining about how they were keeping two leafs of the clover.
Regarding Bestbuy, I think its more then just MWC and Moore stores taking away business. Bestbuy sales were down this holiday season. This is due partly to fact that the economy is down, but it could also be due to people relying less on brick and mortar stores. It makes sense for Bestbuy to downsize.
BestBuy is not condensing due to sales in the MWC or other area, but in response to a corporate revamp of their stores. Nationwide, they're moving away from the larger stores to smaller ones with less overhead. Someone, don't recall who, had said some time ago they were planning to move into the CC location on I-240. Don't know why it didn't happen.
The Interchange project, as discussed in another thread, is still something on the order of eight years away from seeing the first pile of dirt turned (unfortunately), so it isn't a pressing concern - especially if you're only leasing the property. Also, I think some of the details on how that interchange is going to be built have changed, so some of the buildings previously thought to be on the chopping block may not be. One that I know changed was the Home Depot there on Shields. Supposedly, Depot was in the construction area, and had negotiated a deal to build a new store in the parking lot of the Walnut Square center west of Penn on I-240, but when the changes to the interchange planned happened, they found their original site plan was no longer affected, and the deal for the new location was scotched...
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