Entertainment section at Heritage Park Mall?

[grandshoemaster]

Here is an interesting article from a while back. They talk about unclear plans for the Albertsons on Reno in which we now now will be a Neighboorhood Market by Walmart. But they have an interesting idea for HPM.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...6/ai_n54994376

[OKCJapan]

I would be very interested to see what will will come about at HPM is anything. I think the Movie Theatre idea would be great.

I was a teenager in HPM's hay-day back in the eighties. I remember the main intersection there at Air Depot and Reno was a significant place where we as young people used to gather. It is unfortunate that the city past an ordinance banning such gatherings. From that point, seemed to be the beginning of the decline of HPM. Of course I understand that bringing back an era like that for revitalization is impossible because so much of our culture has changed.

I think what should be done is to increase the development of new housing communities north of the mall all the way to 23 street. This would no doubt increase traffic in the area. And if there were shops/retail locally, then I believe they would have have more appeal to local residents which could spark developers investing in the area. For me living located on the east side of town at Westminister and 15th street, having local shops at Post and 15th is a real convenience. Sometimes when we casually go/went out, we do not want to travel far. Therefore, we often ate at Braums, got a Lemon-Berry slush at Sonic and picked up a few grocery items at Buy for Less.

[Thunder]

Is the MWC at fault for stopping the annual carnival when they passed this mysterious ordinance?

I'd love to have a store inside HPM when its completely renovated and revived. One sad thing about the Dillard's building is a church (sighs) taking control of it and doing nothing with it.

[plmccordj]

I just drove by Heritage Park Mall and it appears that people are working on the building and sidewalks around it.

[bombermwc]

Maybe they're trimming up some of the overgrowth? If I were Sears, i would be very unhappy that while I was committed to staying, that nothing is being done to keep the property up...and my customers have to go through crap (parking lots) to get to my store. Too bad they can't move somewhere else...but it's not worth it to Sears to build new on the east side. Heck, just look at the south side store to see how you can NOT do anything to your building.

[plmccordj]

I just drove by there a few minutes ago and now they are installing a sign on the old Dillards. All they have up at the moment is a big square frame. This is promising.

[grandshoemaster]

I know that Life Church bought the Dillards section a while back. And I heard the other day that they would be moved in and operating by July. This might actually encourage more business back to the mall.

[GWB]

The sign is up at Dillards. It's the big Life Church sign, same as they have at all of their churches here in town. There's new blacktop on the parking lot surface too. Trimming bushes and cleaning up around the outside of that part of the mall. Looking good!

GWB

[Corndog1]

They need to knock down everything in between the sears and the old dillards and build one or two single stores or restaurants. No offense, but what business is really going to want to be next door to a sears and a church? I usually spend time at one if not both during the week, but im going to them for a reason each time i go.

[bombermwc]

Very true. Talk about an akward structure now. You've got a church on one end and Sears 1/4 mile down on the other. Both ends have their parking lots in order along with trimmed overgrowth. But between, it's an abandoned overgrowing mess of crap.

It seems to me that converting to office space would be great. But I don't know about the structural issues inside...if it makes sense. Since the hospital still hasn't moved on the Target conversion, then they would be even less likely to convert to physicians offices or something. BUT, MWC is maxed out in capacity in office space (ie non-strip center). MD tower stays full as well as the Parklawn. It was 20 years between Parklawn's construction and the MD Tower. Now it's been 20 years since MD was built. Seems like a good time to either doze and put in a new office tower or convert to office. Although, if the place has mold problems like I think it does, why not just doze and start over from scratch. The need for space is there in MWC as shown by all the stupid mini-house offices and strip office space that keeps going up and filling up. I HATE THOSE THINGS!

[grandshoemaster]

http://eastword.net/oklahoma/article...park-mall.html

[Thunder]

That is very good news. Retail can come back and its a prime spot. It really sucks how that *ahem* church invaded the area and converted it. I honestly do not think it is good/wise for a church to be there. I hope the owner can really change the appearance, but it falls on the people (all of us) to actually get our butt out there to shop once stores set up.

[bombermwc]

We had that chance before it closed. We told the mall that we didn't want to shop there beacuse of the decisions they were making for tenants.

As for the new owner, I can only hope that he is able to do something of consequence to the place. I'd love to see a meaningful change there...retail or not. I don't really think retail is going to work there again, but who knows. It's a shame to see the place the way it is.

[Bimmerdude]

Not knocking the religion thing, but who would want to set up shop near the entrance to a church? I say Victoria's Secret, Spencer's Gifts or some sort of smoke shop should set up shop on that side of the mall.

On a serious note, it would be nice to renovate the theater.

[Thunder]

Not knocking the religion thing, but who would want to set up shop near the entrance to a church? I say Victoria's Secret, Spencer's Gifts or some sort of smoke shop should set up shop on that side of the mall.

On a serious note, it would be nice to renovate the theater.

I think the church closed up the wall.

[Jesseda]

possible upscale flea market type thing maybe?

[plmccordj]

Not knocking the religion thing, but who would want to set up shop near the entrance to a church?

Lifechurch has not hurt the business at Academy Sports or Johnny Carinos on the South Side. Nice to see how hostile this board is toward people that attend church.

[grandshoemaster]

Yea, when service lets out you have several hundred people right next to your business. Surely that can't be bad for business.

[bombermwc]

They started putting a new entrance up on the Dillard's building.

[plmccordj]

Yea, when service lets out you have several hundred people right next to your business. Surely that can't be bad for business.

You know... You have to seriously have issues to think that a lot of people near a business is bad for business. What do you have against churches? Why don't you go over there sometime and see for yourself? Business is thriving over there. I guess people that go to church don't spend money.

[kevinpate]

FWIW, there be ample numbers of folk who attend church who would visit Spencer's Gifts, shop at Victoria's Secret, even consume tobacco.
They also eat out, buy clothes, put gas in their tanks, etc. So the notion that having a facility that draws in hundreds of folk several times a week or smaller groups throughout the week for practices, meetings, study, prayer, fellowship, etc. would be a poor business move is, well, sorta silly.

[zrfdude]

You know... You have to seriously have issues to think that a lot of people near a business is bad for business. What do you have against churches? Why don't you go over there sometime and see for yourself? Business is thriving over there. I guess people that go to church don't spend money.

You seriously have issues when your defensiveness prevents you from seeing that someone agrees with you.

[Thunder]

What bothers me is this church...is all about vanity and greed. Their misplaced sign on the building has their web site domain advertising and its ".TV" which is super lame. If a church want to have a web site, that is fine, as long its .org or any acceptable extension. But a .TV?! Its like they are screaming, "Look at me, I'm on TV, and we are number one!" Not bashing the people attending that kind of church, just saying. And I still believe this location is just wrong for a church (within a retail/business/whatever mall). I just hope that someone comes along and buy them out.

[kevinpate]

What bothers me is this church...is all about vanity and greed. Their misplaced sign on the building has their web site domain advertising and its ".TV" which is super lame. If a church want to have a web site, that is fine, as long its .org or any acceptable extension. But a .TV?! Its like they are screaming, "Look at me, I'm on TV, and we are number one!" Not bashing the people attending that kind of church, just saying. And I still believe this location is just wrong for a church (within a retail/business/whatever mall). I just hope that someone comes along and buy them out.

Laddie, fwiw, .tv is an acceptable domain (though my recall is that particular domain extension is often more pricey than it should be, but perhaps that's just me.) You've got some heartburn about that particular church, and that's your choice, but if memory serves, they dinna go in and kick some retailer out of the space. It was sitting empty and unwanted until the church made it into something for them. I can't iamgine it was a better use for it to sit there empty and neglected.

[grandshoemaster]

I was not being sarcastic.

You know... You have to seriously have issues to think that a lot of people near a business is bad for business. What do you have against churches? Why don't you go over there sometime and see for yourself? Business is thriving over there. I guess people that go to church don't spend money.