OHP uses YouTube to nap OKC dimwit who posted speeding video

[FRISKY]

Interesting statistics, but still does nothing to justify anyone who speeds.

I guess I missed that part in what I posted. Where did you see that statement?
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[Spartan]

People speed dozens of times a day and live to tell the tale, if they even noticed at all. Slow drivers kill more people than speeding drivers, too.

Lack of speed kills? No. Accidents happen, and it sucks. I hate when I see it happen. But Okies need to get over the "speed kills" thing because actually it's slow, confused, dumb Okie driving that kills.

[BBatesokc]

God, I love how easy this hornets nest is to shake.

[PennyQuilts]

People speed dozens of times a day and live to tell the tale, if they even noticed at all. Slow drivers kill more people than speeding drivers, too.

Lack of speed kills? No. Accidents happen, and it sucks. I hate when I see it happen. But Okies need to get over the "speed kills" thing because actually it's slow, confused, dumb Okie driving that kills.

That is your impression. For the sake of argument, let's say that slow kills. Your post is somehow extrapolating that since slow kills, fast doesn't. You know that isn't true. Why in the world would you go out of your way to discount too much speed simply because you dislike slow drivers (or think they cause more wrecks?). I should think that even if you are correct that slow kills more than fast, you'd write - "And not only that, but slow kills, too!!"

As for the "dumb okie," are you suggesting this doesn't happen other places? All that was is a slam on Oklahoma. Bad drivers are bad drivers and unless you can point to something in Oklahoma that makes them all the more likely to drive like that, you come across as small minded.

You haven't seen lousy drivers until you have been back east where teenagers don't even drive until they are 18 and even then, are too scared to get behind the wheel. Or Florida with the high elderly population. Any while many of the Mexicans in Oklahoma do okay, in places with high immigrant populations from El Salvador and Guatamala, those people drive like maniacs. They don't even notice the lines in the road and god forbid they have to get through a crowded four way stop.

[bretthexum]

People speed dozens of times a day and live to tell the tale, if they even noticed at all. Slow drivers kill more people than speeding drivers, too.

Lack of speed kills? No. Accidents happen, and it sucks. I hate when I see it happen. But Okies need to get over the "speed kills" thing because actually it's slow, confused, dumb Okie driving that kills.

I think it's more of the speed difference that kills. How would you like to be doing 70 mph and come up on someone doing 40? Dangerous. Just like doing 100 when everyone else is doing 70.

[TheTravellers]

That is your impression. For the sake of argument, let's say that slow kills. Your post is somehow extrapolating that since slow kills, fast doesn't. You know that isn't true. Why in the world would you go out of your way to discount too much speed simply because you dislike slow drivers (or think they cause more wrecks?). I should think that even if you are correct that slow kills more than fast, you'd write - "And not only that, but slow kills, too!!"

As for the "dumb okie," are you suggesting this doesn't happen other places? All that was is a slam on Oklahoma. Bad drivers are bad drivers and unless you can point to something in Oklahoma that makes them all the more likely to drive like that, you come across as small minded.

You haven't seen lousy drivers until you have been back east where teenagers don't even drive until they are 18 and even then, are too scared to get behind the wheel. Or Florida with the high elderly population. Any while many of the Mexicans in Oklahoma do okay, in places with high immigrant populations from El Salvador and Guatamala, those people drive like maniacs. They don't even notice the lines in the road and god forbid they have to get through a crowded four way stop.

Actually, I think it's more likely that differences in speed kills.

And I have to back up Spartan's statement about Okie drivers being slow. As a disclaimer - there are bad drivers all over, but certain areas have certain general characteristics (Chicago does have aggressive drivers, Washington has randomly weird drivers, OK has slow drivers, etc.). I've driven in the Chicago metro area, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, New Mexico, Texas, Wyoming, Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota, South Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Washington, Oregon, Utah, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, and Arkansas. Maybe a few other places. :-) I've never seen drivers as slow off the stop sign/traffic signal and as slow to get up to the speed limit as OKC drivers (with no traffic in front of you, there is no reason to take a mile to get up to 45 MPH). I've also never seen more people go 5-10 MPH *under* the speed limit as consistently and en masse as OKC drivers.

We can have this argument over and over and nobody will come away convinced of the other side's argument(s), so just posting my own personal anecdotes and observations...

[FRISKY]

God, I love how easy this hornets nest is to shake.

Yep, apparently you can raise quite a fervor by discussing religion, politics or...............speeding!

[Thunder]

Yep, apparently you can raise quite a fervor by discussing religion, politics or...............speeding!

Don't forget about the filming real humans engaging in real natural sex.

[ljbab728]

Actually, I think it's more likely that differences in speed kills.

And I have to back up Spartan's statement about Okie drivers being slow. As a disclaimer - there are bad drivers all over, but certain areas have certain general characteristics (Chicago does have aggressive drivers, Washington has randomly weird drivers, OK has slow drivers, etc.). I've driven in the Chicago metro area, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, New Mexico, Texas, Wyoming, Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota, South Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Washington, Oregon, Utah, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, and Arkansas. Maybe a few other places. :-) I've never seen drivers as slow off the stop sign/traffic signal and as slow to get up to the speed limit as OKC drivers (with no traffic in front of you, there is no reason to take a mile to get up to 45 MPH). I've also never seen more people go 5-10 MPH *under* the speed limit as consistently and en masse as OKC drivers.

We can have this argument over and over and nobody will come away convinced of the other side's argument(s), so just posting my own personal anecdotes and observations...

Yes, you and I have had the speed limit debate before and you never convinced of your side.

[ljbab728]

I guess I missed that part in what I posted. Where did you see that statement?

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When you're downplaying any aspect of someone who speeds when they drive that is basically the point you're conveying to people even if it isn't what you meant.

[ljbab728]

People speed dozens of times a day and live to tell the tale, if they even noticed at all. Slow drivers kill more people than speeding drivers, too.

Lack of speed kills? No. Accidents happen, and it sucks. I hate when I see it happen. But Okies need to get over the "speed kills" thing because actually it's slow, confused, dumb Okie driving that kills.

Spartan, I'm not going to argue about the cause of accidents, but I don't think there is any way anyone can say someone is more likely to be killed when they're in an accident while traveling 40 MPH as opposed to 90 MPH. Causing an accident by slow driving, maybe, more likely to die, not. Unfortunately many posters here seem to equate people who drive the speed limit instead of 20 mile over as slow drivers.

[Thunder]

People are forgetting the minimum speed on the highway is typically 40mph. I would not call them slow drivers. They are more along the line of careful drivers and conserving fuel. The faster you drive, the more fuel is used. It is not them that is actually heightening the risk of an accident. It is actually the drivers going faster and/or drivers going over the limit when they do not pay attention.

[ljbab728]

People are forgetting the minimum speed on the highway is typically 40mph. I would not call them slow drivers. They are more along the line of careful drivers and conserving fuel. The faster you drive, the more fuel is used. It is not them that is actually heightening the risk of an accident. It is actually the drivers going faster and/or drivers going over the limit when they do not pay attention.

Thunder, 40 MPH is indeed a minimum speed, but can be dangerous for those who drive that slow and others sharing the road who come upon someone going that slow. That kind of speed on a freeway, while legal, should only be in case of some kind of emergency and you don't have to drive that slow to conserve fuel.

[TheTravellers]

Thunder, 40 MPH is indeed a minimum speed, but can be dangerous for those who drive that slow and others sharing the road who come upon someone going that slow. That kind of speed on a freeway, while legal, should only be in case of some kind of emergency and you don't have to drive that slow to conserve fuel.

Damn, I agree with you. :-) Just read one article that said if you're going slow, stay far right, if you're blazing fast and passing, stay far left, everybody else stay in between (assuming more than 2 lanes). Not that hard, but millions can't figure that out, sadly. My opinion is that if you get on a highway and can only do the minimum speed limit, you're a complete f-ing idiot and should've taken surface streets (unless there is absolutely no other alternative than to use the highway) because you could be causing all kinds of mayhem.

[ljbab728]

Damn, I agree with you. :-) Just read one article that said if you're going slow, stay far right, if you're blazing fast and passing, stay far left, everybody else stay in between (assuming more than 2 lanes). Not that hard, but millions can't figure that out, sadly. My opinion is that if you get on a highway and can only do the minimum speed limit, you're a complete f-ing idiot and should've taken surface streets (unless there is absolutely no other alternative than to use the highway) because you could be causing all kinds of mayhem.

I know you're shocked that you agree with me but we normally only disagree about those who go over the speed limit not those who drive below the speed limit.