OHP uses YouTube to nap OKC dimwit who posted speeding video

[BBatesokc]

NewsOK.... http://www.newsok.com/troopers-use-y...ad_story_photo

You can see one of the videos here.... http://www.twitvid.com/MYJUJ

Question: The video doesn't show the date and/or time or the speedometer. For the lawyers in the room... can he simply refuse to tell them when the video was taken and say his posting of 195mph was just bravado? I guess speed doesn't matter on a reckless driving charge, but I assume there is a statute of limitations and they'll need to prove it occurred within the limitation if he claims it happened outside of the limitation?

Either way, he's pretty much an idiot and put lots of lives in danger.

[Double Edge]

Pikepass logs? Video forensics? He's going to be throwing away money if he attempts to fight it unless the state just doesn't want to spend the resources.

[BBatesokc]

What good are PikePass logs? He probably uses PikePass all the time and without a date and time they won't know which one the one where he was speeding. It doesn't read your speed does it? They also don't know how long ago the video was taken - unless there are some landmarks that could help establish a timeline. I've been reading some articles online where police rarely go after these types of crimes - mostly only violent criminals or burglars or vandals are pursued via online video posting. The web is littered with videos of people speeding, mutual fighting etc.

[skyrick]

What good are PikePass logs? He probably uses PikePass all the time and without a date and time they won't know which one the one where he was speeding. It doesn't read your speed does it? They also don't know how long ago the video was taken - unless there are some landmarks that could help establish a timeline. I've been reading some articles online where police rarely go after these types of crimes - mostly only violent criminals or burglars or vandals are pursued via online video posting. The web is littered with videos of people speeding, mutual fighting etc.

PikePass logs would show the time interval between two different toll plazas. The average speed would be simple to extrapolate.

The guy is an idiot but that motor sounds epic! I think I heard a supercharger's whine when he decelerated.

[BBatesokc]

PikePass logs would show the time interval between two different toll plazas. The average speed would be simple to extrapolate.

Ahhh, hadn't thought of that. Didn't watch the video close enough to see if he passed two readers or not. Kinda thinking he didn't though.

[CuatrodeMayo]

PikePass logs would show the time interval between two different toll plazas. The average speed would be simple to extrapolate.

The guy is an idiot but that motor sounds epic! I think I heard a supercharger's whine when he decelerated.

You can hear the tires breaking loose on the on-ramp...

[Double Edge]

It would help if he had a pikepass but without it, if they can read tag numbers on other vehicles they can check with those owners directly about when they drove that stretch or indirectly by pulling pikepass logs on those vehicles.

[BBatesokc]

Question: isn't this just a misdemeanor charge? Isn't there a sticky point with making an arrest regarding a misdemeanor committed not in the presence of the officer if there is no complainant?

[Double Edge]

My understanding is there was someone who pointed it out the the OHP.

[Double Edge]

Also, if you haven't noticed, and I'm sure you have, we have video cameras on a lot of the interstates, so if they nailed down the time and place and it was within a fairly recent time they probably have their own videos of it on a DVR somewhere. Eye in the sky...

[BBatesokc]

My understanding is there was someone who pointed it out the the OHP.

An email is far from being a signed valid complaining party. I think unless they can charge him with a felony or get him to just admit to everything, this case is defendable.

[BBatesokc]

Example: if you witness some committing a misdemeanor pedestrian violation, if police do not see it then they won't even let you sign a ticket against the person.

[FRISKY]

Allegedly, the guy was trying to sell his car and had the videos and phone number posted on his Ebay advertisement. The police apparently ran a sting operation and have him on film talking about the incidents.

[BBatesokc]

Allegedly, the guy was trying to sell his car and had the videos and phone number posted on his Ebay advertisement. The police apparently ran a sting operation and have him on film talking about the incidents.

Any $2 lawyer could have those conversations tossed or deemed ineffective to a jury.

[PennyQuilts]

Any $2 lawyer could have those conversations tossed or deemed ineffective to a jury.

How's that?

[PennyQuilts]

They can also check his time by measuring how long it takes to travel between landmarks to support the confession.

[BBatesokc]

How's that?

If they couldn't get the conversations tossed then it wouldn't take much to convince a jury he could have easily been "puffing his wares" when he boasted about the speed he was going.

[BBatesokc]

They can also check his time by measuring how long it takes to travel between landmarks to support the confession.

Which would be very difficult unless the police can seize the camera and know exactly what the lens was set at. Also, at that angle it is difficult to establish EXACTLY when the car passes a particular landmark.

I had a speeding ticket tossed years ago based on the logic you propose. I was doing about 100MPH on I-35 when a police plane said they timed me from one mile marker to the next to establish my speed and then called for a ground unit to pull me over. Went to court with my attorney and they had to toss the cops math estimation of my speed. Without that they had nothing and the charge was dismissed.

[PennyQuilts]

Which would be very difficult unless the police can seize the camera and know exactly what the lens was set at. Also, at that angle it is difficult to establish EXACTLY when the car passes a particular landmark.

I had a speeding ticket tossed years ago based on the logic you propose. I was doing about 100MPH on I-35 when a police plane said they timed me from one mile marker to the next to establish my speed and then called for a ground unit to pull me over. Went to court with my attorney and they had to toss the cops math estimation of my speed. Without that they had nothing and the charge was dismissed.

Had you given them a confession? I was just looking for something that would credibly support that.

[BBatesokc]

Had you given them a confession? I was just looking for something that would credibly support that.

I admitted "I was probably going too fast." That statement was not allowed as evidence as it didn't establish any facts.

[BBatesokc]

I still hold to my guess this was an illegal arrest if it was for a misdemeanor crime not witnessed by police. It would seem the proper thing to do was get an arrest warrant first.

OHP will probably claim they contacted the driver as part of an investigation and that then he told them enough to support arresting him.

Even months ago when the guy at Grand Lake allegedly drove his boat into another boat and killed a man, the OHP went to his home and questioned him, but would not arrest him until they had a warrant.

[Double Edge]

Are you sure they didn't do that?

[PennyQuilts]

I'm no criminal defense lawyer so don't rely on me. That stuff is way over my head.

[BBatesokc]

Are you sure they didn't do that?

Its possible, but I doubt that would have been left out of the story. Also, no charges at the time of arrest would indicate no warrant.

[Double Edge]

The Oklahoma County District Attorney's Office was equally concerned and aided in obtaining arrest warrants, West said.

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2010/12/23/5212085.htm