Missile or Jet Off California Coast

[Roadhawg]

wow... some of you are pretty delusional and paranoid.

[Kerry]

[QUOTE=Edmond_Outsider;380405]Tell me this, Kerry:
What is the nature of the North Korean Navy? Is it green water or blue water? Is it visible or invisible?

When did they get the ablility to sail undetected to the california coastline?

When did they get the ability ot cruise outside thier own coastline?

[QUOTE]

What makes you think North Korea sailed into US waters undetected? Do you think the US military would have intecepted a North Korean sub in international water? Besides, who says they fired the missile in US waters to begin with. 20 miles out they can do whatever they want. We won't even stop a shipment of nuclear material from North Korea to Iran. Don't you read Wikileaks?

[kevinpate]

wow... some of you are pretty delusional and paranoid.

two outta three ain't bad.

[Edmond_Outsider]

What makes you think North Korea sailed into US waters undetected? Do you think the US military would have intecepted a North Korean sub in international water? Besides, who says they fired the missile in US waters to begin with. 20 miles out they can do whatever they want. We won't even stop a shipment of nuclear material from North Korea to Iran. Don't you read Wikileaks?

ANything? Really?

Keep going, the invisible nuclear unicorns are getting closer.

[jmarkross]

Ran into this today...you might have seen it before--might not have--FYI...some might say if you can manage to put a virtual national stranger with no history into the White House...why not continue the assault with some military perfidy as well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GofjDDWX_M

[BBatesokc]

I see absolutely nothing convincing in the video or anything else posted trying to proclaim it was a missile fired. I love when people put the word 'expert' in front of a person's name or title and all of a sudden they are credible. Want to see 'experts' in action? Just watch a handful of criminal cases in any county court room. Both sides set loose with dueling experts who have completely different opinions.

[jmarkross]

I see absolutely nothing convincing in the video or anything else posted trying to proclaim it was a missile fired. I love when people put the word 'expert' in front of a person's name or title and all of a sudden they are credible. Want to see 'experts' in action? Just watch a handful of criminal cases in any county court room. Both sides set loose with dueling experts who have completely different opinions.

FYI--ever seen that before...you must have a heavy load of "issues" to go off on a simple link like this...sad...might want to consider 'counseling'...

[Kerry]

I see absolutely nothing convincing in the video or anything else posted trying to proclaim it was a missile fired. I love when people put the word 'expert' in front of a person's name or title and all of a sudden they are credible. Want to see 'experts' in action? Just watch a handful of criminal cases in any county court room. Both sides set loose with dueling experts who have completely different opinions.

I have yet to see an 'expert' not associated with the government call it an airplane.

[MustangGT]

I have yet to see an 'expert' not associated with the government call it an airplane.

Just because they have not, does not mean it is not an airplane.

[BBatesokc]

I have yet to see an 'expert' not associated with the government call it an airplane.

That's either because you only see what you want to see or you don't bother looking.

How many examples do you want?
1. "What appeared to be a rocket blasting into the skies off the southern California coast on Monday was probably just an approaching plane, a Harvard astronomer who tracks space launches says."

2. "Expert Senior Meteorologist Henry Margusity From AccuWeathercom Says The Mystery Of The Missile Over Southern California Can Easily Be Explained As Only An Optical Illusion From A Passenger Plane"

[Edmond_Outsider]

Sorry BB, the only explaination is a missle and that you have "issues" since you don't believe the wildest possible explanation.

Is that horses I hear? No it must be NUCLEAR POWERED INVISIBLE URANIUM TIPPED UNICORNS!!! Quick, pass a tax cut for the billionaires---it's the only thing which will save us!

[BBatesokc]

Sorry BB, the only explaination is a missle and that you have "issues" since you don't believe the wildest possible explanation.

Is that horses I hear? No it must be NUCLEAR POWERED INVISIBLE URANIUM TIPPED UNICORNS!!! Quick, pass a tax cut for the billionaires---it's the only thing which will save us!

Ha! I hear ya.

I took the photo below on Saturday. The pic (from my cell phone) didn't come out as convincing as seeing it in person ~ but did help show me a real world example of how a contrail can be very misleading.

While there are two contrails to the left that obviously follow the horizon, the one near the middle appears to be going straight up, from a single engine and the contrail is visible all the way down to the horizon line. OMG its a missile being fired from TAFB!!!!!!! Nope, just a jet actually flying towards us.

No, this isn't identical to the California footage but, for me, it certainly provides a similar example.



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[Kerry]

Brian - if your photo was better I am sure you would see two contrails (one from each engine) at the point of origin. Can you zoom in next time like the television camera can? Also, notice how none of the contrails in that photo go to the horizon and that there are multiple contrails in your photo. In the LA video the contrail goes all the way to the horizon and it is the only one in the sky despite hundred of planes in the area. What would really help the Califonria situation is if someone took a picture or video from a different angle.

[BBatesokc]

Brian - if your photo was better I am sure you would see two contrails (one from each engine) at the point of origin. Can you zoom in next time like the television camera can?

Actually, you could only see one contrail and I've posted a link and seen many sites with photos that clearly show that many planes produce what appears to be a single contrail - so, mute point.

[Edmond_Outsider]

Kerry is right. This photo proves it.

Nuclear, uranium tipped, dirty invisible unicorn missles.

[kevinpate]

crazy good EO

[jmarkross]

After much hunting for info...my own personal opinion is...it was a launch of a missile, a ground (sea)-to-air guided missile from a cruiser for some testing purpose...most likely an ICBM or Medium range knock-down deterrent. It is laughable to look at the rate of climb and the exhaust and see..."aircraft"...despite the stock answers provided--question is--why did someone decide to mask it with a cover-story? BTW--it has become suddenly much harder to find the same video that was available right after it happened...

[BBatesokc]

Jesus, now "the government is blocking our access to the video......" it isn't any harder to find the footage.

[jmarkross]

Jesus, now "the government is blocking our access to the video......" it isn't any harder to find the footage.

I appreciate your opinion...even though it has nothing to do with anything...there was a YouTube video that is gone that showed the missile rising very quickly...now only farther out shots are there...for whatever reason...

[BBatesokc]

I appreciate your opinion...even though it has nothing to do with anything...there was a YouTube video that is gone that showed the missile rising very quickly...now only farther out shots are there...for whatever reason...

Maybe you were just sitting closer to the screen the first time!!!!!!

[Kerry]

Jesus, now "the government is blocking our access to the video......" it isn't any harder to find the footage.

Try finding a Wikileaks site.

[BBatesokc]

Try finding a Wikileaks site.

God, now you're blaming the gov't for pulling the plug on Wikileaks. Their providers pulled the plug due to the number of hackers hitting the site. I've even had my site dropped from two providers in the past for the same thing (so obviously it doesn't take much).

FYI - their site is up and running EXACTLY WHERE THEY MOVED IT TO THE OTHER DAY..... http://wikileaks.ch/

And just to show how ridiculous your last statement was..... here is a list of over 100 active mirrored Wikileaks sites...... http://wikileaks.ch/mirrors.html