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  1. #1101

    Default Re: No more speculation: Whole Foods to open in Classen Curve

    Quote Originally Posted by BG918 View Post
    Trader Joe's is getting closer, opening two stores in the Kansas City metro (one in Missouri, one in Kansas). The Kansas store will not sell high point beer/wine or liquor (Kansas law prohibits it). I could see them moving into OKC and Tulsa in the next few years.

    http://www.kansascity.com/2010/09/15...o-kc-area.html
    Just opened a store in Des Moines as well. So they are now in Omaha and Des Moines with 2 stores planned for the Kansas City metro. I think OKC might just be on the horizon for TJ's..

    http://www.desmoinesregister.com/art...est-Des-Moines

  2. #1102

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    Omaha will have 2 locations as of next week and now Lincoln.
    Three other Trader Joe's are scheduled to open soon in the Midwest, including two Nebraska locations: Omaha on Nov. 12 and Lincoln on Dec. 3. No date has been disclosed for another one set to open in Rochester, Minn.

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    Anyupdate on what the site looks like? What kind of bribe do we need to give out to get some new pictures.

  4. #1104

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    There are footings in place, but really nothing else. They continue to move earth on that block. I'm sure someone will post pictures when there's something interesting to see. Last time I went by they hadn't even had any steel delivered.

  5. #1105

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    I drive by everyday, I will post pics next time some major work takes place, other than the huge amount of dirt they've moved last week.

  6. #1106

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    Here's the link to Gen. Contractor, Smith&Pickel, Webcam.

    http://oxblue.com/pro/open/smithandpickel/wholefoods

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    that web link is awesome.

  8. #1108

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    I passed by the site today, and there is now a sign up with the rendering and architect info. The architect is Mark Cavagnero, out of San Francisco. There is not a pic of the rendering on his web site yet, but here is a link to it: http://www.cavagnero.com/

  9. #1109

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    Mark Cavagnero seems to have making glass and concrete boxes down to a science.

  10. #1110

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejillparker View Post
    I passed by the site today, and there is now a sign up with the rendering and architect info. The architect is Mark Cavagnero, out of San Francisco. There is not a pic of the rendering on his web site yet, but here is a link to it: http://www.cavagnero.com/
    We've known this for a month:
    http://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=23397&page=1

  11. #1111

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    My bad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejillparker View Post
    My bad!
    Ejill,

    The general rule to live by on these boards is anything you can think of has already been covered by metro. All you have to do is sit back and enjoy the ride!

  13. #1113

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    Pretty cool article from SuperMarket news http://supermarketnews.com/retail_fi...15/index1.html

  14. #1114

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmoor82 View Post
    Pretty cool article from SuperMarket news http://supermarketnews.com/retail_fi...15/index1.html
    I thought this chart of market share was interesting:

  15. #1115

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    ^^Wow! Walmart has almost half of The OKC market since WM owns Samsclub!

  16. #1116

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmoor82 View Post
    ^^Wow! Walmart has almost half of The OKC market since WM owns Samsclub!
    Yeah, really shows how difficult it will be for other competitors to try to penetrate the market. That HEB article on Supermarket News was quite revealing I thought.

  17. #1117

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmoor82 View Post
    ^^Wow! Walmart has almost half of The OKC market since WM owns Samsclub!
    Disgusting, isn't it?

  18. #1118

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    Disgusting, isn't it?
    It just means OKC is ahead of the curve with the rest of the nation.

    http://www.ajc.com/business/publix-t...-1-558190.html

    Data, to be published by the Shelby Report in July, shows that Publix, with 143 stores in metro Atlanta, has 27 percent of the market, followed by Kroger with 131 stores and 25.5 percent, and Wal-Mart with 58 stores and 23 percent.
    Walmart has almost as much market share in Atlanta as #1 Publix but with nearly 1/3 the number of stores. Guess who is going to win that battle long-term.


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    Here in Jax it is more of the same. This story is 4 years old so today's number would even be better for Wal-Mart as they have opened seveal new Super Centers in the 'nicer' parts of Jax that compete directly with Publix shoppers. Winn-Dixie closed our local store after opening it just 2 years ago.

    http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/st..._4615533.shtml

    And while Publix maintained its top spot, with 31.54 percent of the market under its belt, it felt the most pressure, with its market share dropping 2.24 percentage points in just a few months.

    It was quite a shake-up for a grocery landscape that typically has been predictable. Publix consistently performs well, followed next by Winn-Dixie, with a salivating (and multiplying) Wal-Mart close behind. The top players sometimes lost or gained share of the market from quarter to quarter, but rarely by much. That is, until Wal-Mart entered the market with gusto in 2003. Indeed, industry watchers point to Wal-Mart's robust growth for the dramatic shift.

    Of Wal-Mart's 12 local Supercenters, three have opened since May. But the chain's share of the grocery market jumped 4.78 percentage points - to 26.59 percent - beating out Winn-Dixie's 46 locations. Winn-Dixie's market share fell to 23.7 percent, a decrease of 1.25 percentage points.
    Once again, only 12 stores are bringing in 27% of the market

  19. #1119

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    Quote Originally Posted by flintysooner View Post
    I thought this chart of market share was interesting:
    That's just sad.

  20. #1120

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    So are those who are upset about Walmart's market share unhappy with Walmart or with the shopping public? I don't think Walmart is forcing anyone to shop there.

  21. #1121

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    If we can ever get our other store rebuilt hopefully Country Boy's marketshare will increase a bit.

  22. #1122

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    Just by way of comparison I found a similar chart for San Antonio in the article:
    http://supermarketnews.com/retail_fi...426/index.html

    So in San Antonio it is HEB that has the huge share of the market and the article discusses how difficult it is for Wal-mart to penetrate that market.


    Here is the image of the chart:

  23. #1123

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    I should probably put this in the Crest killing Homeland thread, but since folks have pointed out that neat website (supermarketnews), I found a telling quote:

    http://supermarketnews.com/retail_fi...-too-big-1115/

    "In general, retailers with inordinate market shares tend to harm their communities over the long term, according to Burt P. Flickinger III, managing partner of Strategic Resource Group, New York.

    'When the supermarket sector contracts and key companies collapse, everyone in the town, county and state are hurt because of lower sales-tax revenue, higher vacancy rates in shopping centers, and landlords make less and pay less in taxes,' he said. 'Philanthropic and charitable contributions supported by local retailers go out, and the retailer and the supplier and manufacturer communities contract. So while Wal-Mart wins, it's often a loser locally.'"

    OKC was singled out in this article for its love of Wal-fart. We definitely need more competition and the cannibalizing is certainly harmful (not just Wal-fart). To tie this back to Whole Foods, this store will be so very good for the city.

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    Whole Foods is a niche marketer and could care less about the WalMart shoppers. WF targets a specific demographics for its customers. Saving money and WF don't go together. Feeding a big family for less is not WF's objective.

    HEB is a long established local favorite with twice as many stores in San Antonio. And most of HEB is very competitively priced basic food. If Crest keeps upgrading their stores and adds more locations it can do what HEB does...grab the middle ground.

  25. #1125

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    I'm surprised Reasor's hasn't opened up a store in OKC. The newer ones I've been to in Tulsa remind me of HEB or Safeway. That article indicates they are on the radar.

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