Whole Foods

[ljbab728]

It's not a Homeland. It IS a destination chain.

A destination chain is still a grocery store and doesn't have to be an architectural icon. It's nice if it has a great design but it's not going to make or break our city if it's not a masterpiece. For years people have been complaining because we don't have a Whole Foods. Now that we're getting one the complaints have turned to the design of the building since the lack of a Whole Foods can't be complained about any more.

[Kerry]

I don't like the design. Seems like it was designed without even seeing what surrounds it. It might be what I would design if I had never been to Oklahoma.

[metro]

Kerry I agree, my main point was not criticizing the design, as much as it was about unreached potential and totally doesn't go with the surrounds, including Classen Curve which is designed by Elliott who had a part in WF. That is what confuses me. I'm anxious to see the master plan though. Maybe it will make more sense then. Was just hoping for higher density mixed use retail, that's all.

[foodiefan]

[QUOTE=metro;369030]. . . totally doesn't go with the surrounds, including Classen Curve which is designed by Elliott who had a part in WF". Well, just goes to show ya. . . my first thought when I saw the pic/rendering with the grey metallic thing was that it kind of reminded me a little of Classen Curve but earth tones. . .and that it would be a nice foil between CC and CHK, both of which will be within site lines. As far as the actual shopping goes, I could care less whether it's upscale, downscale, or warehousescale. . . esthetically, I think it will fit in with the surroiunding area nicely.

[onthestrip]

my first thought when I saw the pic/rendering with the grey metallic thing was that it kind of reminded me a little of Classen Curve but earth tones. . .and that it would be a nice foil between CC and CHK, both of which will be within site lines. As far as the actual shopping goes, I could care less whether it's upscale, downscale, or warehousescale. . . esthetically, I think it will fit in with the surroiunding area nicely.

Thats pretty much what I thought.

[okclee]

So where is the attached liquor store that many of us had hoped for?

[Kerry]

How can anyone say it fits the with surrounding area? The CHK campus is Georgian style and this thing is modernist farmers market. They don't go together. Don't let your love for Whole Foods cloud your thinking. They aren't going to cancel the plan if you say the design sucks - and this design sucks (especially compared to their other stores).

[wsucougz]

How can anyone say it fits the with surrounding area? The CHK campus is Georgian style and this thing is modernist farmers market. They don't go together. Don't let your love for Whole Foods cloud your thinking. They aren't going to cancel the plan if you say the design sucks - and this design sucks (especially compared to their other stores).

Some strong opinions based on one rendering from a single angle. There will be a lot of other buildings on this "triangle," how it all ties together remains to be seen.

[CuatrodeMayo]

The CHK campus is Georgian style...

Not so much anymore. The new buildings being built are quite different. This area is becoming quite ecletic.

[Kerry]

Some strong opinions based on one rendering from a single angle. There will be a lot of other buildings on this "triangle," how it all ties together remains to be seen.

A bunch of ugly surrounded by more ugly isn't going to make it any less ugly. I sure hope CHK isn't planning on building an eye-sore shopping center expecting it to be some design that will stand the test of time. I am not a fan of modernist farmers market.

[brownb01]

A bunch of ugly surrounded by more ugly isn't going to make it any less ugly. I sure hope CHK isn't planning on building an eye-sore shopping center expecting it to be some design that will stand the test of time. I am not a fan of modernist farmers market.

well...you know what they say about opinions.

[foodiefan]

How can anyone say it fits the with surrounding area? The CHK campus is Georgian style and this thing is modernist farmers market. They don't go together. Don't let your love for Whole Foods cloud your thinking. They aren't going to cancel the plan if you say the design sucks - and this design sucks (especially compared to their other stores).

Well, I did say so (and I still think so). Cuatro is on the mark, the new CHK buildings are far from Georgian. . .as is Classen Curve, and it seems to be fitting in quite nicely. Everything in that area is not Georgian, nor (in my opinion) should it be. Perhaps this is why CHK is developing their new buildings in a significantly different style. Diversity (again, in my opinion) is a good thing. My "love" for WF is not clouding my thinking (actually I prefer CM, but WF is the name in the game). You say the design "sucks", I disagree. So, perhaps the best we can presume is that we will agree to disagree. Cheers!!

[john60]

I'll agree with the previous posters who don't find the architecture all that striking, but I do think that it blends in. To me, it really resembles the parking garage on the east side of the campus (http://www.e-a-a.com/#portfolio/proj...3&project_id=9). They used some kind of clay blocks or something like that--that was the first thing I thought of when seeing this design. That parking garage seems to blend with the rest of CHK's campus quite well.

On the other hand, it's kind of bad that a design for any building resembles a parking garage, even an award-winning parking garage.

[dismayed]

I'm a fan of modern and yet this design does not impress me. A lot of modern works are based on imagery from the past... unfortunately this reminds me more of what someone in the 1950s would have thought the future would look like rather than a modernist interpretation for the 2010s. If they go with this hopefully it'll look better in person... that does happen sometimes.

[PennyQuilts]

Well, I generally don't have a problem "seeing" the finished project from the early stages but for some reason, I am with this one. So I will withhold comment.

I know one thing. I hope that chubby/pasty lady with the red spaghetti strap dress going into the building in the photo isn't there when I shop. I hope that is not their notion of what Oklahoma shoppers look like. At least she wasn't wearing overalls.

[circuitboard]

I know one thing. I hope that chubby/pasty lady with the red spaghetti strap dress going into the building in the photo isn't there when I shop. I hope that is not their notion of what Oklahoma shoppers look like. At least she wasn't wearing overalls.

hehe, that made me chuckle! So true. I just showed the design to my other half and he immediately said yuck! I hope it does turn out nice.

[Larry OKC]

Completely underwhelmed. Not so much the design itself but the lack of color. Maybe change the brown to red or something more vibrant. I was underwhelmed with the renderings of the outlet mall but when Spartan posted picks of a completed project, the improvement was 1,000 percent (same colors etc). So we can hope.

[HOT ROD]

Again, it's what's inside the building that matters.

[Larry OKC]

Yep, a grocery store...ho hum

[Kerry]

Again, it's what's inside the building that matters.

This whole time I thought it was the name on the building that mattered. If not, someone needs to the change this thread title to Re: The Triangle at The Curve/ Grocery Store renderings

[wsucougz]

Prediction - everybody ends up warming up to the finished product not unlike Classen Curve.

[metro]

Wow, it's been a week or so and no articles with additional renderings from Oklahoman or Journal Record. I guess we'll have to wait another week or two.

[okclee]

They are busy writing articles about poodle rescues, gap-toothed women, and sex-toy robberies. LOL
I did not make that up either. The top 3 viewed stories at newsok.com.
I guess the Okc tribe has spoken and people want the important articles such as these.

I did drive by the WF site and I thought the WF pic looked better in person than it does with the pics seen on the web.

[Pete]

Prediction - everybody ends up warming up to the finished product not unlike Classen Curve.

Yes, modern design typically looks much better in the broader context of it's surroundings than more ornate alternatives.

It's also consistent with how CHK is mixing clean, contemporary structures with the rows of Georgian brick buildings on it's campus.

[Spartan]

Not so much anymore. The new buildings being built are quite different. This area is becoming quite ecletic.

I think a lot of the eclectic style comes though from using Georgian as a base motif and contrasting other styles off of that.