Mystery Man Help

[Firefly831]

I have a bit of a mystery on my hands and hope yall can maybe help. Here's the story:

A family friend was out at a restaurant the other night with a girlfriend when they were approached by a man. He spoke to both of them some and then asked our friend out.
Sounds simple enough but here's where it twist. Our friend is of course curious about this guy but he jokingly refuses to tell her his last name. He says he goes by J.R. for junior and says his first name is Marvin. He goes on to say that he will tell her his last name when they go out and when she hears it she will know why he didn't want to say.
He was very light and teasing about this so assuming he isn't like related to a serial killer I am guessing his comes from a prominent family of which we would recognize by name.
She asked me to do some snooping so here I am. LoL I'm hoping someone here might be able to shed some light on our mystery man!

[soonerguru]

I have a bit of a mystery on my hands and hope yall can maybe help. Here's the story:

A family friend was out at a restaurant the other night with a girlfriend when they were approached by a man. He spoke to both of them some and then asked our friend out.
Sounds simple enough but here's where it twist. Our friend is of course curious about this guy but he jokingly refuses to tell her his last name. He says he goes by J.R. for junior and says his first name is Marvin. He goes on to say that he will tell her his last name when they go out and when she hears it she will know why he didn't want to say.
He was very light and teasing about this so assuming he isn't like related to a serial killer I am guessing his comes from a prominent family of which we would recognize by name.
She asked me to do some snooping so here I am. LoL I'm hoping someone here might be able to shed some light on our mystery man!

This is weird. Tell your friend to meet in a very public place.

[Firefly831]

Definitely and he even suggested it saying he would meet her at a restaurant of her choice basically in bricktown or whatever. That's a reason why I'm not thinking its just some creep.

[PennyQuilts]

Anyone that coy with a prominent name is too high maintenance. Run the other way. Seriously. Actions, not pedigree, are what makes a man. Real men wouldn't associate so heavily on a family name. Personally, it sounds juvenile, to me. He must think your friend is pretty easily impressed to feel the need to hide the name. Just my thoughts.

[Kerry]

My guess is his last name is something like Buttlicker. It's hard to pick up a girl if your name is Marvin Buttlicker (but you can call me J.R.). He probably has a last name that is less than flattering and wants your friend to get to know him first. Right now your friend is intrigued by going out with Marvin (JR) Mysteryman. She would probably be somewhat less enthusiastic going out with Marvin (JR) Limpone.

We all know how women operate. The first thing girls do is see if their first name sounds good with the guy’s last name. The second thing they do is check if the wedding invitation cards are going to sound stupid when the last names are together.

[PennyQuilts]

Oh Kerry.

[Kerry]

Oh Kerry.

Are you saying I am wrong?

When does the date happen Firefly831? Will you post the last name once you know it?

[okcpulse]

The guy is definitely a douchebag. Putting on a BS act to impress a woman is so 1980's. Leave him in that decade.

[PennyQuilts]

We all know how women operate. The first thing girls do is see if their first name sounds good with the guy’s last name. The second thing they do is check if the wedding invitation cards are going to sound stupid when the last names are together.

Are you saying I am wrong?

Depends on the girl, I guess, Kerry. There is nothing sillier than a young girl but once they get that out of their system, most of them are more substantial than that. And is that a sexist remark? You betcha. And boys tend to be more active than girls, too... I could go on and on about the differences between the species, er, sexes.

[old okie]

While it may be an innocent, although pretty corny, pick-up line, there is the real possibility that if he were to give her his last name, and she did her due diligence and researched him [Google, Facebook, pipl.com], she might find he could be married [or not "quite divorced" that was always an interesting one], not the age he claims to be [that one could go either way], has a criminal record, is a wanted man [she wouldn't want to be with him when the arrest is made!], or a myriad of other possibilities.

An honest person, regardless of how strange or 'well-connected' their last name, will tell a potential date the pertinent information. She should not go out with him without a couple of "wing-men" [and I do mean "men" here! Sexist? Maybe. Let's be real. Women are protective, but w/o being martial arts trained or armed, they can't physically stop a man! The wing-men can be there with their dates. Friends do things like that for friends!] standing by--incognito of course--when they meet in a VERY public place.

Just my thoughts on it.........and experience from "back in the day" when I was single!

[Kerry]

Depends on the girl, I guess, Kerry. There is nothing sillier than a young girl but once they get that out of their system, most of them are more substantial than that.

Is there any chance the phrase PennyQuilts Buttlicker went thru your mind?

[OKC Heel]

I've never told someone my full name when i asked them out for the first time.

[FritterGirl]

My douchedar is climbing off the charts about this guy. It's one thing to just not reveal your last name, another altogether to make a big deal out of "why."

I'd tell her to run. Run away. Run far, far away from this guy. He doesn't sound like he's very genuine if he has to start hiding things from the very beginning.

Of course, it's also possible that he does have an easily recognizable last name that comes with certain connections and has been burned from that. Still, in the very least he comes off as arrogant, as I read from your second-hand account.

If he persists, and she does decide to go out with him, I agree on the "wingmen" plan. She needs to have a few plants in the restaurant or bar where they meet (he should NOT pick her up), and then she needs to shuffle off to the ladies room for a little texting session to ensure things are going okay.

Dang, things were so much simpler back in the day. How dating got so complicated I will never know.

[OKCTalker]

Best case: Loser. Worst case: Serial killer. Run.

Any guesses what time the mods will move this thread? I'm guessing 11:35 a.m.

[Midtowner]

She is even considering going out with this guy?

Maybe she deserves him?

[Martin]

Any guesses what time the mods will move this thread? I'm guessing 11:35 a.m.

10:53. moved to underground. -M

[metro]

Best case: Loser. Worst case: Serial killer. Run.

Any guesses what time the mods will move this thread? I'm guessing 11:35 a.m.

She is even considering going out with this guy?

Maybe she deserves him?

Well said. Juvenile loser. But if it intrigues her, maybe they deserve each other.

[BBatesokc]

Yeah, all kinds of red flags are going up on this. I've never felt obligated to give a last name back when I was dating, but I certainly find it odd he has played up the fact he isn't willing to give his last name.

Hopefully she got his phone number and didn't give out hers. If so, she might be able to track down a full name. Better yet, a tag number can get you a name and address.

Either way, tell her to be very cautious.

[Bunty]

We all know how women operate. The first thing girls do is see if their first name sounds good with the guy’s last name. The second thing they do is check if the wedding invitation cards are going to sound stupid when the last names are together.

No, Kerry, actually the first thing a girl wants to do is to see if the guy is good looking, or a hunk. So I bet this mystery man was hot to this girl, otherwise she would have told this intruder to the table to go take a hike. I've had enough rejection from women and observed their behavior around guys to know what I'm talking about.

[kevinpate]

I'm more inclined to go the odd last name route.
Turns it into his game.
Creates an aura of mystery rather than simply having a decision made on him on the merits on his first approach.
Come date night, if she gets odd about the odd name, well, he can pull a being hurt she's shallow like that, or perhaps she finds name insecurity charming. Either way, the date turns on the name, not on him making a great impression.
If there be another date, then to his game scenario she's either interested and capable of seeing past the name, or else she doesn't have anyone more interesting to kick back with. Either way, not a lot of work on his part.

Got game or mondo lame, he's apparently set a date with minimal effort on his part. That's more than a passle of single folk can say for their upcoming evenings.

[PennyQuilts]

Is there any chance the phrase PennyQuilts Buttlicker went thru your mind?

Er... No. If we married up, the man would be taking MY last name! If he was intent on keeping that godawful moniker, any kids would be adopted out.

[PennyQuilts]

I've never told someone my full name when i asked them out for the first time.

That's because you are a heel.

[Lauri101]

(SNIP)
If he persists, and she does decide to go out with him, I agree on the "wingmen" plan. She needs to have a few plants in the restaurant or bar where they meet (he should NOT pick her up), and then she needs to shuffle off to the ladies room for a little texting session to ensure things are going okay.

Dang, things were so much simpler back in the day. How dating got so complicated I will never know.

I'd advise the run away action also, but if he's just too hot to pass up, go to Bricktown Brewery. Back in the day - when I placed an ad in the Gazette singles column (pre-Internet dating), I met all dates at the Brewery. We sat at front in bar and if the guy was a real loser or scary, I snuck out the back after excusing myself to go to ladies room. I had a bartender and a waitress (well-tipped) as winggirls and a busman to watch me to car.

My point - it was complicated back then also - and we didn't have cellphones with texting. Losers are still losers and this one sounds like he fits that category.

[kevinpate]

Er... No. If we married up, the man would be taking MY last name! If he was intent on keeping that godawful moniker, any kids would be adopted out.

Way to lay down the law thar missy.
Say hey to Junior Quilts for us.

[old okie]

I'd advise the run away action also, but if he's just too hot to pass up, go to Bricktown Brewery. Back in the day - when I placed an ad in the Gazette singles column (pre-Internet dating), I met all dates at the Brewery. We sat at front in bar and if the guy was a real loser or scary, I snuck out the back after excusing myself to go to ladies room. I had a bartender and a waitress (well-tipped) as winggirls and a busman to watch me to car.

My point - it was complicated back then also - and we didn't have cellphones with texting. Losers are still losers and this one sounds like he fits that category.

Agree 100%! I used the Gazette singles column back in the day, and always met at a restaurant where I knew some of the waitstaff, who [as you say for a good tip] were willing to "cover" if I needed a quick escape. Worked great. Highly recommend if she just doesn't want to do the "run away" option.