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USG \'60 Today's flood 06-14-2010, 11:11 AM
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    Paseofreak: thanks for the info. Didn't mean to suggest that Monday's rainfall was a normal occurrence by any means. My question about the damming process, is that the water that is dammed, (lets say 10ft depth), is another 10ft of water that would normally would have to build up to. With the dams, that is its new starting point (it has a 10ft head start in reaching flood stage). Doesn't it?

    Does anyone of a link to an article or news report? I still haven't run across any about the Oklahoma River being above flood stage (didn't see anything in Tues paper, but may have gone to press before that happened). Will look again in Wed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry OKC View Post
    Does anyone of a link to an article or news report? I still haven't run across any about the Oklahoma River being above flood stage (didn't see anything in Tues paper, but may have gone to press before that happened). Will look again in Wed.
    I'm not sure if the "Oklahoma River" went above flood stage due to strong regulation, but the North Canadian River (same as the Oklahoma River) exceeded flood stage downstream at Britton Road and down by Harrah:

    Advanced Hydrologic Prediction Service: Norman: North Canadian River at Oklahoma City

    Advanced Hydrologic Prediction Service: Norman: North Canadian River near Harrah

    Flow at the Britton Road gage was about a "25-year event" (4% chance of flow exceedance) and at the Harrah gage was about a "10-year event" (10% chance of exceedance). This may seem trivial compared to the 500 year 6-hour probability rainfall we saw, but if this rainfall event had extended into upper portions of the basin or weren't so localized, or we didn't have as much regulation, we likely would have seen far greater flows. Note that the annual peak flow at the Britton Road gage for this event exceeded what we saw in summer of 2007, and we haven't seen an event similar to this since 1995 (prior to MAPS river work).

    Sources:

    USGS Publications Warehouse
    USGS Publications Warehouse

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    Yep,it does have a head start. That can present quite a challenge for designers if. The controlling feature isn't downstream and generally requires widening, deepening or smoothing the channel. Regulations promulgated at FEMA's behest require extensive modelling. And analysis of channel mods within the floodway, so we can be reasonably sure that the changes don't result in. Significantly increased flood risk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Larry OKC View Post
    Paseofreak: thanks for the info. Didn't mean to suggest that Monday's rainfall was a normal occurrence by any means. My question about the damming process, is that the water that is dammed, (lets say 10ft depth), is another 10ft of water that would normally would have to build up to. With the dams, that is its new starting point (it has a 10ft head start in reaching flood stage). Doesn't it?

    Does anyone of a link to an article or news report? I still haven't run across any about the Oklahoma River being above flood stage (didn't see anything in Tues paper, but may have gone to press before that happened). Will look again in Wed.

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    Larry, the dams can be opened completely, which allows the water to flow right through.
    Don't Edmond My Downtown

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbrown84 View Post
    Larry, the dams can be opened completely, which allows the water to flow right through.
    If you completely open a dam you can do serious damage to the dam itself and everything in its path, the corps calculates water coming in and opens the gates either to slow down the rise, level it off, or drop the level depending on how much flooding is down stream.

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    Well obviously I didn't mean that they let the water build up completely and then just open the floodgates.
    Don't Edmond My Downtown

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    Too bad...I would be waiting in a kayak below the dam...

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    Speaking of kayaking....check out these photos that my friend Carl Zoch took on 235. Carl Zoch Photography Blog






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    Quote Originally Posted by kinggober View Post
    Speaking of kayaking....check out these photos that my friend Carl Zoch took on 235. Carl Zoch Photography Blog
    AWESOME! For the photographer not the drivers of those cars.. lol..

    I found this pic on flickr.



    Scary!

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    I carry a tool similar to this in my side door pocket. I believe every should also carry one, you just never know.

    The "Rescue One" 4-In-1 Auto Emergency Tool with Seat Belt Cutter, Glass Breaker and More! - General Tools & Instruments

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    Quote Originally Posted by diggyba View Post
    AWESOME! For the photographer not the drivers of those cars.. lol..

    I found this pic on flickr.

    Scary!
    That looks like it could be The Village Ditch....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedogok View Post
    That looks like it could be The Village Ditch....
    It is

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    Was anyone downtown when they remembered to open the dams on the Oklahoma river from the boat races? The people I talked with said it was like someone flushed a toilet and the waters went down really quickly.

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