The Abortion Issue

[Caboose]

Bunty, even if you disagree with PP, you don't have the high road on this one. You are preaching a theory you don't have any idea is true - it is just something you made up and want to believe. To attack someone as morally insane when they are clearly trying to protect kids - regardless of whether you believe he is accurate or not - is pretty audacious. You can disagree with how to go about doing the right thing but calling someone's attempts to do the right thing sick because you don't agree with the method is really intolerant.

Please, Bunty has never actually thought about this topic or any other. He is just regurgitating talking points he read on DailyKos or whatever Leftist blog he gets his beliefs from. Bunty believes what he is told to believe, period.

[Caboose]

Again, I will have to say that I don't think women just go out and get abortions without weighing in their minds what they are doing. You are assuming something about them, and that is dangerous.

What would they have to weigh their minds about if the fetus is not a life? Who cares?

[bandnerd]

How do you know that all women who have abortions think that the fetus isn't a life?

[RealJimbo]

So do you really want to win the argument that banning abortion is, by far, the right thing to do? Then show me a country where abortion has apparently been successfully banned as indicated from its abortion rate being at or near zero, and it's a place you'd love to live in, while soaking up all the more highly moral atmosphere that successfully banning abortion has presumably produced. This assuming the country would actually allow you to live there and practice your religion. (Hint: It might be Saudi Arabia.)

Convoluted reasoning.

[Caboose]

Convoluted reasoning.

Bunty thinks outcomes are predicated on only one variable. I guess he must be against outlawing murder since it obviously doesn't work. Look at the murder rates in the civilized world. Because murder is illegal people can't just do it swiftly and humanely. They are forced to do it back alleys with crude equipment and make a big mess of it.

[Caboose]

How do you know that all women who have abortions think that the fetus isn't a life?

So some women think that a fetus is a human life with full rights yet they murder it anyway?

[bandnerd]

[RealJimbo]

Bunty thinks outcomes are predicated on only one variable. I guess he must be against outlawing murder since it obviously doesn't work. Look at the murder rates in the civilized world. Because murder is illegal people can't just do it swiftly and humanely. They are forced to do it back alleys with crude equipment and make a big mess of it.

Very good analogy.

[Bunty]

Bunty, even if you disagree with PP, you don't have the high road on this one. You are preaching a theory you don't have any idea is true - it is just something you made up and want to believe. To attack someone as morally insane when they are clearly trying to protect kids - regardless of whether you believe he is accurate or not - is pretty audacious. You can disagree with how to go about doing the right thing but calling someone's attempts to do the right thing sick because you don't agree with the method is really intolerant.

And so PQ I gather you couldn't care less that the highest abortion rates to be found in the world are where abortion is banned and you would just love to take your chances with unborned babies and try banning abortion here. My God, PQ, if you really care about the innocent unborn being slain in the womb, I would just go hang my head in shame. Shame on you.

[Bunty]

Very good analogy.

No, RealJimbo, it was very wrong and silly analogy made my Caboose.

[Bunty]

Please, Bunty has never actually thought about this topic or any other. He is just regurgitating talking points he read on DailyKos or whatever Leftist blog he gets his beliefs from. Bunty believes what he is told to believe, period.

Caboose, you are so pitifully wrong in your reasoning that all I can feel is pity for you. I don't bother logging onto DailyKos or whatever leftist blog you may imagine for me.

[Prunepicker]

My God, PQ, if you really care about the innocent unborn being slain in the
womb, I would just go hang my head in shame. Shame on you.

If anyone should hang their head in shame it should be you. You give out
more half truth information than anyone on these threads. Couple that with
never apologizing when you're information is shown to be wrong, especially
after using childish tactics like your shaming attempts and put downs, should
shame you. To make things worse you'll knowingly, and these are your
words, freely "give wrong information to people that you don't respect"
doesn't make sense. What good it that? How does that help? What part
of that isn't a bumptious and childish act?

[Bunty]

What would they have to weigh their minds about if the fetus is not a life? Who cares?

Hey, to focus more attention from the male aspect, if some of you males are really against abortion, I just wonder how many times you all have had unprotected sex with a woman when a baby was not wanted.

[mugofbeer]

Hey, Caboose and Real Jimbo, if some of you males are really against abortion, I just wonder how many times you all have had unprotected sex with a woman when a baby was not wanted.

Bunty, yet again you ask a leading question that leads you nowhere.

I guess you don't think it's possible for a man to have unprotected sex with a woman and then accept the responsibility when he fathers a child?

[Bunty]

If anyone should hang their head in shame it should be you. You give out
more half truth information than anyone on these threads. Couple that with
never apologizing when you're information is shown to be wrong, especially
after using childish tactics like your shaming attempts and put downs, should
shame you. To make things worse you'll knowingly, and these are your
words, freely "give wrong information to people that you don't respect"
doesn't make sense. What good it that? How does that help? What part
of that isn't a bumptious and childish act?

Then, please, Pruenpicker, point out where I have been FACTUALLY wrong in this thread, if it means so much to your heart. And do distinguish fact from opinion. You know, Prunepicker, it would help enormously, if you would practice what you preach and to not deny that you have not been doing so!

[Bunty]

Bunty, yet again you ask a leading question that leads you nowhere.

I guess you don't think it's possible for a man to have unprotected sex with a woman and then accept the responsibility when he fathers a child?

Then I am sorry for implyng that there might be some men on this forum who wouldn't take responsibility for a child they created.

[Prunepicker]

Then, please, Pruenpicker, point out where I have been FACTUALLY wrong in
this thread, if it means so much to your heart. And do distinguish fact from
opinion. You know, Prunepicker, it would help enormously, if you would
practice what you preach and to not deny that you have not been doing
so!

This post.

[Prunepicker]

What would they have to weigh their minds about if the fetus is not a life?
Who cares?

Hey, to focus more attention from the male aspect, if some of you males
are really against abortion, I just wonder how many times you all have had
unprotected sex with a woman when a baby was not wanted.

Why are you quoting Caboose's post and not responding to it? You're
posting information that isn't relative and posting a reply that's even more
irrelevant. This is providing wrong and misleading information. Why don't
you respect Caboose? Is it because of the questions Caboose asks and
you can't squirm out of?

This is another example of your providing half truths or
being FACTUALLY wrong that you asked me to show
you. Since this is very common with you I won't bother
searching older posts because you'll be providing copius
examples in the very, very near future, i.e. before the
day's end. Probably your next post.

[Bunty]

Why are you quoting Caboose's post and not responding to it? You're
posting information that isn't relative and posting a reply that's even more
irrelevant. This is providing wrong and misleading information. Why don't
you respect Caboose? Is it because of the questions Caboose asks and
you can't squirm out of?

This is another example of your providing half truths or
being FACTUALLY wrong that you asked me to show
you. Since this is very common with you I won't bother
searching older posts because you'll be providing copius
examples in the very, very near future, i.e. before the
day's end. Probably your next post.

That was just a posting that suddenly occurred to me to make all of a sudden at a whim. Should that strongly upset you and Caboose, then I'm sorry. If you wish to look down on me in disrespect as a human being for doing that, then that's just fine by me. Be my guest. No doubt, Caboose will quite strongly approve of you for doing so, along with PQ. IF you don't think I respect Caboose, it is because he has before in the past gone overboard worse than you in personally attacking me, even though he will quite vigorously deny that, or at least would not describe it as going overboard.

Meantime, you and Caboose know very well that when life begins is a matter of opinion among different people besides you. So why not we get back to the topic at hand, which is the abortion issue. For instance, any ideas as to how you would enforce a ban on abortion? I know you have dismissed my idea of requiring the placement of pregnant women on 24 hr. a day monitoring.

[Prunepicker]

That was just a posting that suddely occured to make all of a sudden in
great haste. If you wish you look down on me in total disrespect for doing
that, then that's just fine by me. No doubt, Caboose will strongly approve
of you for doing so.

But you and Caboose know very well that when life begins is a matter of
opinion among different people besides you. So why not we get back to
the topic at hand, which is the abortion issue. I'm sure Caboose is raring to
go at it again on that.

Not a good answer. If you can't keep your mind on the post to which
you're replying then you don't need to be posting. It's that simple.

Secondly, why mislead people? Do you not respect the people on this
thread? If you post something that misleads then you're posting wrong
information.

Thirdly, The bottom line is you quoted a post that didn't have anything
whatsoever to do with your post. If you're going to quote somebody you
must reply to the post, otherwise you're doing nothing more than providing
wrong information. What if someone you respect gets this information and
thinks it's not wrong or misleading? You need to think through your modus
operandi before you push the submit button. When you desire to give
wrong information to people you don't respect you're also giving wrong
information to people you do respect, not that they respect you. The
people you respect may not understand your convoluted reasoning. I
know you're barely 20 years old but that's no excuse for not thinking
before you post.

Why don't you respect Caboose? Is it because Caboose asks questions
you can't squirm out of?





This is another example of your providing half truths or
being FACTUALLY wrong that you asked me to show
you. Since this is a very common occurrence with you
I won't bother searching older posts because you'll be
providing copious examples in the very, very near future,
i.e. before the day's end. Most likely it will be your
next post.

Which this one was. I appreciate your help.

[Bunty]

Please, Prunepicker reread your post above and go to bed. You're tired. I'm confident that the people in this fine forum can tell the difference betweem strong willed opinion and attempts made to mislead. Maybe you don't, and would rather go on personally attacking, something you always deny doing, but I still wish to move along to the topic at hand.

[Prunepicker]

Please, Prunepicker reread your post above and go to bed. You're tired. But
if you have your heart set on to keep personally attacking me, and
probably all the while denying it, then have at it some more. I'm tough.

I don't need to read my post again because you asked me to do so, i.e.
you once again posted wrong information. Secondly, I'm not attacking,
that's more wrong information you're intentionally providing. You've asked
me to provide example of you being FACTUALLY wrong. This post was
two fine examples of you providing FACTUALLY wrong information

Everything in this post of yours is FACTUALLY wrong. If anyone is tired it's
you. Your silly and incredible childish tactics to try to turn the tables
aren't working.

Every post you've made, so far, is FACTUALLY wrong. Don't think for one
minute that I'm not going to continue to point out every single time you
provide FACTUALLY wrong information. After all, you asked me too do so.






This is another fine example of providing half truths or
being FACTUALLY wrong that Bunty asked me to show.
Since this is a very common occurrence with Bunty I
won't bother searching older posts because Bunty will
be providing copious examples in the very, very near
future, i.e. before the day's end. Most likely it will be
the next post, which this one was.

[PennyQuilts]

And so PQ I gather you couldn't care less that the highest abortion rates to be found in the world are where abortion is banned and you would just love to take your chances with unborned babies and try banning abortion here. My God, PQ, if you really care about the innocent unborn being slain in the womb, I would just go hang my head in shame. Shame on you.

Bunty, you are on another planet, dear.

[Bunty]

I don't need to read my post again because you asked me to do so, i.e.
you once again posted wrong information. Secondly, I'm not attacking,
that's more wrong information you're intentionally providing. You've asked
me to provide example of you being FACTUALLY wrong. This post was
two fine examples of you providing FACTUALLY wrong information

Everything in this post of yours is FACTUALLY wrong. If anyone is tired it's
you. Your silly and incredible childish tactics to try to turn the tables
aren't working.

Every post you've made, so far, is FACTUALLY wrong. Don't think for one
minute that I'm not going to continue to point out every single time you
provide FACTUALLY wrong information. After all, you asked me too do so.

Prunepicker, can you distinguish opinion based material from fact based material when someone has made a post? Surely, I'm not the only one who wonders. But please don't stop. Continue on with your personal attacks while merrily denying it all the way. I'm loving it!! But I would just as soon you get back on the topic of abortion.

[Bunty]

Bunty, you are on another planet, dear.

Well, I am sorry about going overboard with you in exerting my strong willed opinion.