Big 12 conference talks this week

[diesel]

I wonder if OU and OSU join PAC 10, will this affect OU vs OSU bedlam game and OU vs Texas red river game? If we keep those two, I don't really care who else we play..

[lasomeday]

With OU and OSU moving to the Pac 10 I think the one thing that nobody has mentioned is the recruiting pool just got bigger!

OSU and especially OU will be seen by high school kids all over California on TV and in the papers. Recruits will feel more at home going to OU and OSU now. I just hope that OU and OSU can recruit better than the Texas schools. I think the biggest boom for recruiting in Cali will be Colorado. Its lifestyle is more in tune with the Cali kids, so they will see a boom in Cali kids coming in.

[Spartan]

Pac-10 vs. SEC. A Tulsa Whirled report I read yesterday confirmed that the SEC has been lobbying the heck out of OU and that OSU's preference is in fact the SEC, they want to be with former rival Arkansas instead of Arizona and other schools they don't know.

But this report that's circulating on the google wire says OSU will in fact be the very next domino to fall, in light of CU's bolting for the Pac-10, and it will be the Pac-10 for the Cowboys.

Oklahoma State Next to Jump to Pac-10 Conference | TMZ.com

Although, it is TMZ.. I guess they're just as good a source in any of this as anyone else LOL. There has literally been NOTHING but unnamed sources close to certain departments and anonymous reports and so on..but they've all been right so far. OSU and OU would of course be tied politically.

[possumfritter]

I'd rather see an alliance with the SEC. What fantastic games!

I'm with you on this one mugofbeer!

[Caboose]

I really dont get the point of the super-conferences (outside of the money).

Let's say OU, OSU, Texas, Texas A&M and Texas Tech all follow Colorado to the Pac-10.

The new Pac 10 would have two 8 team divisions like so:

--West--
Cal
Stanford
Oregon
Oregon State
USC
UCLA
Washington
Washington State

--East--
Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado
OU
OSU
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech


Each team would play their 7 division mates each season, then either 1 or 2 of the teams in the other division, leaving 4 or 3 non conference games.

So my question is, what is the point? What is the point in OU being in the same conference as Cal if they only play them once every 8 years?

[SoonerBent]

Yes, ain't it amazing that thd Pac 10 would want oSu and Stillwater.

Some media sources (for what they're worth) are saying that this has a lot to do with a certain, very wealthy Texas resident/OSU backer. You can guess who.

[SoonerBent]

[QUOTE=Caboose;337954]I really dont get the point of the super-conferences (outside of the money).

The money is the point. Money drives pretty much everything.

[SoonerBent]

a combination of big 12 and pac 10 officials would be a disaster

The current problem is that they are PAC 10 officials. Of course the OU-Oregon game comes to mind. But after this we'll all be one big happy family. We won't be a competing conference any longer.

[Caboose]

[QUOTE=SoonerBent;337960]

I really dont get the point of the super-conferences (outside of the money).

The money is the point. Money drives pretty much everything.

Yeah I get the money angle.. I am talking logistics. Two 8 team divisions might as well just be their own conferences. There will be little to no familiarity between the two divisions. A weak bond held together only by money.

[possumfritter]

Maybe all these "super conferences" will lead to a REAL National Championship series/game?

[Caboose]

Maybe all these "super conferences" will lead to a REAL National Championship series/game?

What do you propose?

[possumfritter]

Caboose...I am going to wait and see how all this realignment stuff works out.

[lasomeday]

Channel 5 is reporting that OU is going to the SEC.

[jstanthrnme]

Channel 5 is reporting that OU is going to the SEC.

I saw this too. I had hoped for this ever since these stories have started to come out.

I would imagine Bob Stoops lobbied for this to avoid the annual Stoops vs. Stoops matchup.

[adaniel]

Not true. Sooner Scoop just asked Josh Heupel straight up and he said that he never got a text saying OU is bolting to the SEC. Whoever Channel 5 is using as their sources needs to be canned.

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In any event, OU will go wherever UT goes, and OSU will go wherever OU goes.

[Kerry]

I'm torn but if I had to make the choice I would vote SEC.

[SoonerBent]

[QUOTE=Caboose;337973]

Yeah I get the money angle.. I am talking logistics. Two 8 team divisions might as well just be their own conferences. There will be little to no familiarity between the two divisions. A weak bond held together only by money.

Not that much less connection to the other division than the Big 12. In basketball and baseball there are enough games to play the whole conference. In football the schedule will probably be the seven in your division, rotating two from the other division and three other teams. Every 4 years you will have played the entire conference vs. every two years now.

[SoonerBent]

Maybe all these "super conferences" will lead to a REAL National Championship series/game?

There's been many realignment scenarios reported in the last month. Most of them seem to end up with 4 or 5 "super conferences". With so few conference champions it should be a piece of cake to have a playoff.

[SoonerBent]

In any event, OU will go wherever UT goes, and OSU will go wherever OU goes.

I have nothing to really base this on but gut feeling. I think the deal for six Big 12 teams going to the PAC 10 has been a done deal for days. Colorado just beat everyone to the gun in making it official.

[Kerry]

How is this for the SEC?

Drop Vanderbilt and Mississippi St and pickup Texas, Texas AM, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Missouri, and Kansas.

You lose 25% of Nashville and whatever town Mississippi St is in and pick-up Dallas, Ft. Worth, Austin, San Antonio, Houston, OKC, Tulsa, Kansas City, 50% of Wichita, and St. Louis.

[Bunty]

Hey, we better hope that OSU doesn't get dropped along the way on the account of Stillwater unless Oklahoma City and Tulsa makes up for it.

[redrunner]

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[Bunty]

However unlikely as it may be, should no more defections come from the Big 12, which 2 great universities should it seek to replace Colorado and Nebraska? Arkansas and LSU?

[Bunty]

Meanwhile, Pickens isn't happy with the situation.
Oklahoma State Booster T. Boone Pickens No Fan of Expansion -- NCAAFB FanHouse

[bluedogok]

I have nothing to really base this on but gut feeling. I think the deal for six Big 12 teams going to the PAC 10 has been a done deal for days. Colorado just beat everyone to the gun in making it official.

It was a preemptive strike against legislative politicking here in Austin.

How is this for the SEC?

Drop Vanderbilt and Mississippi St and pickup Texas, Texas AM, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Missouri, and Kansas.

You lose 25% of Nashville and whatever town Mississippi St is in and pick-up Dallas, Ft. Worth, Austin, San Antonio, Houston, OKC, Tulsa, Kansas City, 50% of Wichita, and St. Louis.

Vandy brings the grade point average up and is a private school, so some conference matters do not fall under the open records acts. Most of the majors have a private school.