The Abortion Issue

[xoxotiffanynicole]

It sure isn't. Although, in fairness, childrearing isn't easy for anyone, particularly if you have a difficult child. Being very young surely makes it much more difficult.

That it isn't. But when you have no job, no education, no way to even feed or cloth yourself is when you know you've really gotten yourself into a difficult situation.

[Prunepicker]

That it isn't. But when you have no job, no education, no way to even feed
or cloth yourself is when you know you've really gotten yourself into a
difficult situation.

I've never thought of murder as being an alternative or solution regardless of
how grim the situation looks.

[xoxotiffanynicole]

I've never thought of murder as being an alternative or solution regardless of
how grim the situation looks.

If you were educated then you would know that there's 24wks. for a reason.

[Prunepicker]

If you were educated then you would know that there's 24wks. for a reason.

I am educated and probably more than you want me to be. 24 weeks is a
pitiful reason to murder a child.

[RealJimbo]

Someone, back a few comments said the law doesn't consider a fetus a person. Think again. If this is so, why is a person charged with two counts of first degree murder when a pregnant woman is killed and her fetus dies? And when did we as a society begin referring to a pre-birth baby as a fetus? Check and I think you will find it was around the time of the Roe V Wade decision. To me these are signs of a society in decline.

[xoxotiffanynicole]

I am educated and probably more than you want me to be. 24 weeks is a
pitiful reason to murder a child.

I could care less how educated you are overall.
& we're not going to see eye to eye.
& I won't argue it with you because it's a lost arguement.

[Bunty]

I've never thought of murder as being an alternative or solution regardless of
how grim the situation looks.

So you strongly disagree with Dr. Coburn who decided he had to resort to doing an abortion to avoid the possibility of two deaths?

[Prunepicker]

So you strongly disagree with Dr. Coburn who decided he had to resort to
doing an abortion to avoid the possibility of two deaths?

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Bunty, I am NOT Pro-life. I am anti-abortion.

[Prunepicker]

I could care less how educated you are overall.
& we're not going to see eye to eye.
& I won't argue it with you because it's a lost arguement.

You certainly are concerned about my level of education because you
brought it up. Or was it an attempt to call someone who doesn't agree with
you an uneducated troglodyte?

As long as you believe murdering a child, for any reason, is acceptable
behavior then we aren't going to see eye to eye. If you had said that in the
beginning this conversation would be finished and we would be moving on.

[Bunty]

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Bunty, I am NOT Pro-life. I am anti-abortion.

ah, yes, a nice position to take to make null and void criticism of hypocrisy from your support of the death penalty. And let God judge if there has to be 2 deaths or not over the outcome of a difficult pregnancy.

[RealJimbo]

ah, yes, a nice position to take to make null and void criticism of hypocrisy from your support of the death penalty. And let God judge if there has to be 2 deaths or not over the outcome of a difficult pregnancy.

...and so much for your assumption that all conservatives agree. Referring to bringing Dr. Coburn's name into the discussion.

[Prunepicker]

ah, yes, a nice position to take to make null and void criticism of hypocrisy
from your support of the death penalty.

Please explain my hypocrisy for supporting the death penalty.

[USG '60]

Please explain my hypocrisy for supporting the death penalty.

We all know what Bunty will say and we all know what YOU will say. It is getting old.

[Caboose]

We all know what Bunty will say and we all know what YOU will say. It is getting old.

Not sure why you dont care for people talking about something on a message boards. There are other threads open for you to peruse.

[Bunty]

Please explain my hypocrisy for supporting the death penalty.

But my point was that your position let's you escape being accused of being hypocritical for supporting the death penalty. So you say you're anti-abortion, not pro-life.

[Caboose]

But my point was that your position let's you escape being accused of being hypocritical for supporting the death penalty. So you say you're anti-abortion, not pro-life.

There is nothing hypocritical about being pro-life and supporting the death penalty to begin with.

Innocent baby = allow to live
guilty murderer = put to death

There is no hypocrisy or contradiction involved. No clue why you brought it up.

[bandnerd]

But either way, someone is deciding whether that person lives or dies.

[Bunty]

There is nothing hypocritical about being pro-life and supporting the death penalty to begin with.

Innocent baby = allow to live
guilty murderer = put to death

There is no hypocrisy or contradiction involved. No clue why you brought it up.

WRONG IF you claim to be pro life, you can't be in favor of the death penalty. Now, surely, Prunepicker has no trouble in the least agreeing with me on that point.

[Caboose]

WRONG IF you claim to be pro life, you can't be in favor of the death penalty. Now, surely, Prunepicker has no trouble in the least agreeing with me on that point.

Well that is just completely wrong. I already diagrammed it above.

[Prunepicker]

But my point was that your position let's you escape being accused of
being hypocritical for supporting the death penalty. So you say you're
anti-abortion, not pro-life.

It does no such thing. It clearly defines my stand on abortion.

Concerning the death penalty. A person who has been justly accused of
committing a crime deserving of the death penalty has had a trial by jury
and as many appeals necessary to make as certain as is possible that that
person deserves the death penalty.

A baby who has done nothing can be murdered at a whim and without
being accused of a crime deserving of death. If a baby can have a trial by
jury and all of the necessary appeals and is still found guilty of crime
deserving the death penalty then it's at least had an opportunity to have a
defender plead it's case.

If any hypocrisy is to be found it's with those who are pro-abortion, this
includes many pro-lifers, but against the death penalty.

[PennyQuilts]

But either way, someone is deciding whether that person lives or dies.

Yes. And in the case of the death penalty, the decision is based on the person's actions. And in the case of a fetus, the decision is based on the mother's wishes.

[RealJimbo]

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

[Bunty]

My God, ain't that the truth, Real Jimbo, ain't that the crying out loud truth. So Real Jimbo, are you like Prunepicker? Do you very passionately believe in banning ALL abortion??

[Bunty]

If any hypocrisy is to be found it's with those who are pro-abortion, this
includes many pro-lifers, but against the death penalty.

So what does it mean to be pro abortion? To advocate that a woman should go get an abortion when she finds herself pregnant?

[Caboose]

So what does it mean to be pro abortion? To advocate that a woman should go get an abortion when she finds herself pregnant?

Why are you still skirting the questions posed to you?

Why did you say that only a pregnant woman can determine when life begins, then turn around and say an abortion during the 9th month is obviously wrong, then turn around and contradict yourself again by saying you know without a doubt that life begins when the fetus takes its first breath of air?

Which is it and how did you determine it?