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[Midtowner]

Anyone else receive this email other than some random blog?

All I found was the random blog via a posting on my Facebook page. Not the most trustworthy of sources, I'll grant you that.

Please note the "?" at the end of the thread's title. Consider it as the shortest disclaimer ever.

[soonerguru]

Nevermind; wrong thread.

[progressiveboy]

All I found was the random blog via a posting on my Facebook page. Not the most trustworthy of sources, I'll grant you that.

Please note the "?" at the end of the thread's title. Consider it as the shortest disclaimer ever.

Agree. This seems very random and not official. I'll believe it when they have signed the lease and broke ground??

[Steve]

Um,. no, not buying it.... I'll be very, very, very shocked if this is true

[Midtowner]

Um,. no, not buying it.... I'll be very, very, very shocked if this is true

You're just jealous a random blogger scooped you.

You newspaper guys with your "confirmed sources" and "true statements."

So passé.

[progressiveboy]

Um,. no, not buying it.... I'll be very, very, very shocked if this is true

Do you think that it could have been a very hush hush behind the scenes negotiations with a developer that wanted it kept under the radar? Possible. But then again, that blog just puts a doubt and does not seem official enough. Just another rumor?

[MikeOKC]

Reading the email to the blogger, it is signed by "Steve Cramer, Store Team Leader" and it was sent to the Tulsa store. Seems like it would be easy to check.

[progressiveboy]

Reading the email to the blogger, it is signed by "Steve Cramer, Store Team Leader" and it was sent to the Tulsa store. Seems like it would be easy to check.

True. Can we count on you to check MikeOKC (LOL).

[MikeOKC]

True. Can we count on you to check MikeOKC (LOL).

No, I was waiting for you! That's funny, because I started to call and then thought that somebody else would. Which is what everyone else was probably thinking!

[Steve]

Do you think that it could have been a very hush hush behind the scenes negotiations with a developer that wanted it kept under the radar? Possible. But then again, that blog just puts a doubt and does not seem official enough. Just another rumor?

Anything is possible. I'll try to check into it soon. Writing some stories on deadline right now.

[betts]

Steve Cramer was the store team leader in Tulsa last year. That much I could find.:

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[brownb01]

Um,. no, not buying it.... I'll be very, very, very shocked if this is true

I don't understand why some people are so hestiate to believe this. Funny it seems to me.

Just sit back and watch one pop up right by Classen Curve.

[FritterGirl]

I don't understand why some people are so hestiate to believe this. Funny it seems to me.

Just sit back and watch one pop up right by Classen Curve.

I think what is most at issue is the claim that the new store will be "downtown" as this goes against everything all other research and noted sources have pointed to. Either the poster is not familiar enough with Oklahoma City to know the difference between the Classen Curve area and downtown, or it's a completely bogus post.

Until it can be researched and verified, I'd not take it at face value just yet.

[Steve]

Not skeptical at all about the curve location - downtown is what bewilders me

[SkyWestOKC]

Perhaps they will build two of them? Not all that familiar with the chain, but maybe they feel they can grab some of the south side market by putting one in dowtown since a lot of south siders are in downtown at some point during the week (or close enough to it to stop by), while also capturing the north side market?

[betts]

There was the rumored location at 36th and Broadway at one point in time. That's closer to downtown. Although, to add to the rumor mill, someone told me that Trader Joe's was planning to go in at that location.

[soonerguru]

Perhaps they will build two of them? Not all that familiar with the chain, but maybe they feel they can grab some of the south side market by putting one in dowtown since a lot of south siders are in downtown at some point during the week (or close enough to it to stop by), while also capturing the north side market?

Not picking on south side, but my thoughts are that they would put something closer to Norman, as the near south side is not really a market for them.

[FritterGirl]

Perhaps they will build two of them? Not all that familiar with the chain, but maybe they feel they can grab some of the south side market by putting one in dowtown since a lot of south siders are in downtown at some point during the week (or close enough to it to stop by), while also capturing the north side market?

Given the fact(s) that a: it's taken them YEARS to get here, and b: their demo guidelines are stringent as all get-out, I would say it's not likely they are adding a second location AT THIS TIME. If they do add one eventually, I'd see it going in north Norman somewhere so they can capture both the Norman and South OKC folk. We just don't have the income density, nor the psychographic trends, really, to justify two within ten miles of one another.

There was the rumored location at 36th and Broadway at one point in time. That's closer to downtown. Although, to add to the rumor mill, someone told me that Trader Joe's was planning to go in at that location.

As for the Broadway & 36th location, I thought Council denied the request for this area to be a multi-use residential/commercial district. Thought there was enough push back from the Crown Heights folks that they didn't want to see any commercial development there. <--- Steve, can you help out my memory on this one?

[Urban Pioneer]

There was the rumored location at 36th and Broadway at one point in time. That's closer to downtown. Although, to add to the rumor mill, someone told me that Trader Joe's was planning to go in at that location.

Betts your right. With all of the hype about Classen Curve (as beautiful as it is), Humphrey's still does possess the land next to First Christian Church right? I know the Crown Heights people threw great agitated protests, none the less, it is a great visible and easy access location to Downtown and commuters.

Have we actually mathematically confirmed that any one space in Classen Curve is large enough for the type of layout that they require for one of their stores?

[soonerguru]

Betts your right. With all of the hype about Classen Curve (as beautiful as it is), Humphrey's still does possess the land next to First Christian Church right? I know the Crown Heights people threw great agitated protests, none the less, it is a great visible and easy access location to Downtown and commuters.

Have we actually mathematically confirmed that any one space in Classen Curve is large enough for the type of layout that they require for one of their stores?

Urban Pioneer, the proposed site would not actually be in the existing Classen Curve footprint, but across the street where the funeral home previously existed.

[FritterGirl]

Have we actually mathematically confirmed that any one space in Classen Curve is large enough for the type of layout that they require for one of their stores?

I think projection is that the store will go on the old funeral home site directly across from the current Chesapeake campus, across the street north of Classen from the shopping area; not in the "Curve" itself.

[SkyWestOKC]

Given the fact(s) that a: it's taken them YEARS to get here, and b: their demo guidelines are stringent as all get-out, I would say it's not likely they are adding a second location AT THIS TIME. If they do add one eventually, I'd see it going in north Norman somewhere so they can capture both the Norman and South OKC folk. We just don't have the income density, nor the psychographic trends, really, to justify two within ten miles of one another.

Yeah, I'm not really familiar at all with their market and potential capture demographics they look for. I know they are upscale but not sure to what degree. I am just trying to find reasons why they'd be rumored for CC and now downtown -- unless they changed their mind on CC?

[FritterGirl]

Yeah, I'm not really familiar at all with their market and potential capture demographics they look for. I know they are upscale but not sure to what degree. I am just trying to find reasons why they'd be rumored for CC and now downtown -- unless they changed their mind on CC?

Here are two reasons: 1. Aubrey 2. McClendon

[onthestrip]

Two more reasons: 1. No one 2. Lives downtown

[Spartan]

This is interesting because my understanding is the Chesapeake has a letter they're sitting on from Whole Foods and they demolished the funeral home back between the blizzards knowing "full well" (as we Okies say) that they'd put a Whole Foods there.

And of course, Humphries' Crown Heights land is in my opinion BY FAR the best shot Oklahoma City has of attracting Trader Joe's, Anthropologie, and other hold our retailers. There's no reason we couldn't have a TJ and a WF, we could support them. Omaha has had WF for about 5 years, and is now getting a TJ based on how well they supported WF--Omaha is only around 800,000 people, significantly smaller than Tulsa.