Chase Tower

[Thundercitizen]

More space around a tower...that's what Mr. F. L. Wright's preference definitely was.
See Bartlesville.

[metro]

If that's your preference...........here is a google earth image of Atlanta.

Leadership Square sure would look better with some space around it vs buried where it is. Point being you can benefit from viewing a building and having views from the building.

FYI Kerry is an executive that works/lives in Atlanta and also Jacksonville. He's definitely familiar with it. Comparing most cities to Atlanta is laughable. Here is just a portion of it's skyline, looking towards DT from Buckhead (in which Buckhead itself has several mid and high rises).

[architect5311]

wow an executive..............what's your point?

[Kerry]

FYI Kerry is an executive that lives in Atlanta. He's definitely familiar with it. Comparing most cities to Atlanta is laughable. Here is just a portion of it's skyline, looking towards DT from Buckhead (in which Buckhead itself has several mid and high rises).

I am sitting on the 9th floor of Wildwood Plaza right now overlooking all five metro Atlanta skylines (Downtown, Midtown, Buckhead, Perimeter, and Cobb Overlook).

The Towers at Wildwood Plaza - Northwest Atlanta

What Architect5311 is looking at when he see Atlanta is the top floors of Atlanta's tallest buildings sticking up out of the urban fabric. What he doesn't see are the 10 to 15 stories it takes to get up out of the urban fabric. When you are in downtown Atlanta you can't see out of it at the street level. There are many many urban canyons along the streets of downtown Atlanta.

FYI - I live in Jacksonville, FL. I work in Atlanta. After 3 years, I have no love left for I-75.

[Kerry]

Leadership Square sure would look better with some space around it vs buried where it is. Point being you can benefit from viewing a building and having views from the building.

Leadership Square would have been better if built as originally designed. It was supposed to have been a 50 story building but got cut in half due to the oil crash. If people on the 2nd floor want a view I recommend Memorial Road. You can see for miles.

BTW – before I forget, nice work on the fantasy buildings.

[earlywinegareth]

Kerry, my understanding is the Leadership Square site could not support a 50-60 story skyscraper which is why we have 2 towers there instead. It's arguably OKC's most beautiful office building, but yes, the view is obstructed on 3 sides.

[ronronnie1]

wow an executive..............what's your point?

LOVE it!

[Kerry]

wow an executive..............what's your point?

He could have probably left that adjective out as it didn't add to or take away from the rest of the story.

[metro]

wow an executive..............what's your point?

My point is that he works in the urban fabric of Atlanta, and you were showing him a partial mockup skyline of Atlanta. I'm sure he is very familiar with it.

[ronronnie1]

He could have probably left that adjective out as it didn't add to or take away from the rest of the story.

Not to knit pick, but "executive" isn't an adje... oh hell. I hate grammar nazis, so forgive me.

[Kerry]

Not to knit pick, but "executive" isn't an adje... oh hell. I hate grammar nazis, so forgive me.

I love grammar. I have problems sometimes, but I still love it. Are you sure the when used to describe an existing proper noun (Kerry) the word executive doesn't become a 'proper adjective'?

[architect5311]

Hey Kerry, no offense by the above, it's just the way Metro comes off sometimes.

I am in no way trying to compare OKC to Atlanta. As you know the OKC CBD is small, the only thing I was trying to depict in these images were some possibilities for future development. The fantasy highrises weren't randomly thrown in there. I was looking at the blocks, (which aren't really available nearer the main core), which seemed to make sense for future highrise development.




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[Kerry]

Hey Kerry, no offense by the above, it's just the way Metro comes off sometimes.

No problem. Besides, you explained it by saying you expected mid-rise in-fill to take place. That works for me.

[Platemaker]

Isn't Oklahoma Tower a bit too tall in that sketch up?

[Architect2010]

Yes it is. There are also 6 fantasy towers. Put two and two together. He was just adding floors to it for a "what-if?" purpose.

[mmonroe]

Well, if you were to put together the mid-rises from NW OKC to the CBD to the Health Center area to the east of the CBD, and maybe (as a stretch for low-rises) Arvest Bank Building in Del City and some physicians buildings in Midwest City, we could be close to Atlanta... haha, it's a stretch.

[shane453]

Well, if you were to put together the mid-rises from NW OKC to the CBD to the Health Center area to the east of the CBD, and maybe (as a stretch for low-rises) Arvest Bank Building in Del City and some physicians buildings in Midwest City, we could be close to Atlanta... haha, it's a stretch.

I thought this might be cool and I have some sketchup models lying around my hard drive, so I did an experiment, putting some of those buildings on empty lots around the Arts District. You might recognize three buildings from the Integris NW campus, Founders Tower, the Classen, Landmark Towers (the triplets on NW Expy and Hefner Pkwy), Oil Center (twins from NW Expy), Lakeview Tower, American Fidelity, and 50 Penn Place. I didn't have a model of Valliance Bank and my awful model of Devon that I threw together a while back is nowhere near as good as architect5311's!

Kind of amazing how small these buildings look compared to downtown's tallest buildings. Being out in the open really adds to the impression of height that they give.

[buylow]

its actually called Cotter Ranch Tower...

[John]

its actually called Cotter Ranch Tower...

We all know that...

They're also called Science Museum Oklahoma & the Cox Business Services Convention Center, but still known as the Omniplex & Myriad.

[buylow]

We all know that...

They're also called Science Museum Oklahoma & the Cox Business Services Convention Center, but still known as the Omniplex & Myriad.

recognizing james cotter as the owner is also recognition that nothing will be done to the facade of the building, whether it is at Cotter's expense or the city's...

[Larry OKC]

Once a name gets attached it can be difficult to change. My late grandmother still called the grocery on I-240 and May "Skaggs". Even though it had changed names numerous times over the years (in no particular order: Skaggs, Skaggs/AlphaBeta, Alberstons, Jewel/Osco among others). Interesting that most of the various names were at one point or another all part of the same parent corporation.

[Kerry]

Kind of amazing how small these buildings look compared to downtown's tallest buildings. Being out in the open really adds to the impression of height that they give.

I thought that adding all of the buildings along NW Expressway would make downtown look a lot bigger. While they would be nice in-fill, you are right - they would be lost in the clutter at the lower end of the spectrum if they were all downtown. However, if give he choice between the two, I would prefer they all be 'lost' downtown.

Great work BTW.

[Urbanized]

We all know that...

They're also called Science Museum Oklahoma & the Cox Business Services Convention Center, but still known as the Omniplex & Myriad.

Heck, I'm so old-school that I still call Cotter/Chase Tower by its PROPER name: Liberty Tower.

[Platemaker]

Yes it is. There are also 6 fantasy towers. Put two and two together. He was just adding floors to it for a "what-if?" purpose.

Ouch...

[Kerry]

Heck, I'm so old-school that I still call Cotter/Chase Tower by its PROPER name: Liberty Tower.

My wife worked for Liberty many moons ago (a little native American lingo there). She still calls it Liberty also. She also worked for awaile in Devon's current building while she was with Liberty. She just calls that building The Annex.