Seriously, enough with these roads

[jbrown84]

Depending on where you live...

But we're getting there.

[rcjunkie]

Depending on where you live...

But we're getting there.

So true, I was speaking with tongue-in-cheek, but it is exciting times in OKC

[jbrown84]

With the streetcar, it will be possible for someone to choose a carless life between that, new bike lanes downtown (Project 180) and general increased walkability in the inner city. They'd have to work and live in downtown or midtown.

[EBAH]

Yeah, I would love to see a street car eventually extended down the 16th corridor to all of us in the "historic neighborhoods" west of classen. It would be a good route, that would probably have a strong ridership, and it would be GREAT for reinvigorating the underappriciated gems that they are (the neighborhoods that is). But, I know we all can't have exactly what we want. At least with the route posted in the MTP thread, I could ride my bike to the 23rd/classen area (which I do regularly) and hop on a car from there.

[dp1974]

dp, have you not looked at the roads currently under construction in the SAME AREA?

May Avenue from 150th to 178th - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
Pennsylvania from 150th to 178th - UNDER CONSTRUCTION - including the bridge, which they just replaced
Western Avenue from 150th - 178th - UNDER CONSTRUCTION

178th between Western and Pennsylvania - CONSTRUCTION COMPLETED Fall 2009

164th IS and will be in line in the very near future, but don't you think, at least for the purposes of traffic flow, and I don't know, common sense, that they will wait until AT LEAST one of the North-South arteries is completed before working on 164th?

I agree it is one of the worst roads in the City, but once the others are completed, it will be done.

No, common sense would be not to have construction on 3 consecutive North/south roads AT THE SAME DAMN TIME...AND DURING CHRISTMAS traffic. If it would have been done when he promised the first 2-3 times, we would not have these problems. They are now making Penn 4 lanes - which means they are tearing up 2 lanes that were just paved a few years ago - instead of 164th. Great planning dumbass.

[ljbab728]

No, common sense would be not to have construction on 3 consecutive North/south roads AT THE SAME DAMN TIME...AND DURING CHRISTMAS traffic. If it would have been done when he promised the first 2-3 times, we would not have these problems. They are now making Penn 4 lanes - which means they are tearing up 2 lanes that were just paved a few years ago - instead of 164th. Great planning dumbass.

I don't drive in this area as I live further south so I'm curious. Are some areas shut down completely or are there fewer lanes than before? If not, why is it a huge problem?