OKC profiled on History Channel's "Gangland"...

[kmf563]

Is it just me, or did all the girls they had posing with them for pictures were fat and ugly?

Not that I would call any girl fat or ugly - but I highly doubt gang members hang out with models. It's not the Hooter's gang.

[Bunty]

Gang problems in OKC are terrible, have been for two plus decades, it would be nice if people would wake up to that fact.

So legalize illegal drugs like marijuana and gangs will be considerably weakened. After all, they don't fight each other over selling something legal like alcohol.

[MGE1977]

There you go again…..your ‘tone?’ LOL, what a load of ****. You specifically were making reference to ‘me’ squeaking into this country before I wish to ‘pull up the drawbridge’ as if there has never been any restriction in immigration policy which, while not my expertise, is easily disproved as not being the case.

Does it make you feel better about yourself not sounding like a dolt for issuing such a statement if you claim your ‘tone’ was misinterpreted? I’m ready to hear how your ‘tone’ gives you a leg to stand on regarding the history of immigration policy in this country and how you are going to insist that you are somehow intellectually superior to my ‘ignorant’ ass. LOL

You know, I was going to go off on a tirade about how liberals claiming an opposing opinion on immigration policy that denounces ‘open borders’ has nothing to do with ‘ignorance’, but actually, it’s hard for me to say that because I really do feel as though those who support ‘open borders’ are ignorant themselves. I can’t begin to comprehend the thought process that trashes the value of citizenship of the greatest country in the world. Just let ‘em pour in unchecked. There should be no borders. We should just give up everything that we as a country have fought for and divvy it up with the rest of the world? Is that ultimately what you would prefer? Yeah, that’s nice….. give it all away.

What I love, and it never fails, is how liberals are adamant that you must accept everyone……that is unless you have a conservative viewpoint on a subject and then you’re ‘ignorant’ or a ‘racist’. You really like that throw that ‘racist’ label around as though it’s going to cause the accused to fall to their knees and beg to please forgive them for having an opinion you don’t agree with. **** that ****. Call me a racist all you want. I really don’t give a ****.

I don’t even really consider myself a ‘conservative’ overall…… I voted for Obama actually. For my own reasons. Not to promote illegal immigration for sure, but it seemed as though there was no winning vote on that count anyway. They’re both already clamoring for the ‘hispanic’ vote. That makes a lil of that puke being talked about cough up into my mouth thinking about it.

While revolting to me, your ignorance is impressive.

I don't agree with you, and you'll not have to read any tone into this post.

I could care less what party you align yourself with, it is not a qualifier nor does it give your statement merit. You are using antiquated logic to remedy a contemporary issue. I'll wait for your reply after Rush signs off the air for the day. Don't attempt rational self thought, I am patient, I can wait for whatever it is he tells you to spew.

I don't villify conservatives, just as I don't elevate liberalism. If this is your stance, so be it, there really needs to be one of you in every group. You can protect your precious white majority, and I'll keep calling you ignorant.

If yours was a rallying cry to protect the United States, I would have passed by without notice. You specifically chose to "protect the White Majority," and therein lies your motivation. When your majority falls, who will care to listen?

[jstaylor62]

Is it just me, or did all the girls they had posing with them for pictures were fat and ugly?

Not that I would call any girl fat or ugly - but I highly doubt gang members hang out with models. It's not the Hooter's gang.

Your right they were not the "Hooters Gang", they were more like the "Snouters Gang"...

[OKCisOK4me]

Yeah, I remember seeing Biggie Smalls and 2-PAC riding the log ride together.

Hahahahahahah, that is f'in hilarious!

[Fastfwd]

While revolting to me, your ignorance is impressive.

I don't agree with you, and you'll not have to read any tone into this post.

I could care less what party you align yourself with, it is not a qualifier nor does it give your statement merit. You are using antiquated logic to remedy a contemporary issue. I'll wait for your reply after Rush signs off the air for the day. Don't attempt rational self thought, I am patient, I can wait for whatever it is he tells you to spew.

Huh? I didn’t attempt to align myself with a party douchebag. Quite the opposite. I really can’t stand Rush Limbaugh for your information. Nobody tells me what to think. I really question if you’re paying attention or if this is just an excuse for you to run your mouth.

What statement is it that you speak of? Are you talking about my reference to the news story on whites losing the population majority by 2050? There are only about 1,000 news articles on it. Does it require more merit than that for you to be an issue worthy to express an opinion on?

My antiquated logic? What? If I were to guess, I might assume you are referencing the history of immigration policy of the United States that I Googled to refute your statement that there have never been quotas placed on immigration? Is that antiquated? How so exactly? How many industrialized nations currently employ quotas on their immigration? I know I’ve discussed this issue with a German before and was quickly informed that they have much stricter immigration policy than we do. They seem to be doing quite alright in Germany with it.

I don't villify conservatives, just as I don't elevate liberalism. If this is your stance, so be it, there really needs to be one of you in every group. You can protect your precious white majority, and I'll keep calling you ignorant.

You don’t vilify conservatives? You just take what would largely be considered a conservative viewpoint and go off bashing on anyone who dares to express it? Are you just trying to portray yourself as tolerant now despite your contradiction? Nice try.

If yours was a rallying cry to protect the United States, I would have passed by without notice. You specifically chose to "protect the White Majority," and therein lies your motivation. When your majority falls, who will care to listen?

First of all, wtf? I’m really trying to interpret what it is that you’re attempting to say, but you make it difficult. Are you making reference to the dangers of unchecked immigration to the sovereignty of our nation? So, you’re making an admission of this potential reality and still insisting upon ‘open borders?’ That’s pretty bright.

Yes, I am dismayed at the prospect of losing a white majority, but I am comforted to know that my race will dominate the wealth of the nation for many generations to follow…….and what is likely your race will still dominate the leaf blowing needs of this country.

[ronronnie1]

^^^Can the moderators please BAN this racist troll? I can't believe he's being allowed to spew this racist bullsh!t. I mean, for real.

"...your race will still dominate the leaf blowing needs of this country."?!? <-- For real?!?

[Spartan]

It also looks like he's racist against Germans. Sheesh.

[MGE1977]

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I am not tolerant. You are right. Ignorance such as yours cannot be tolerated.

Your race will hold the majority of the Nation's wealth, fantastic. Who will decide the Nation's future?

It's a shame that you cannot see past race to what promises to be a very vibrant future.

First of all, wtf? I’m really trying to interpret what it is that you’re attempting to say, but you make it difficult. Are you making reference to the dangers of unchecked immigration to the sovereignty of our nation? So, you’re making an admission of this potential reality and still insisting upon ‘open borders?’ That’s pretty bright.

You are an alarmist, and free press is really not a good thing for you to partake of friend. What you need is a calming voice, subliminal perhaps, pumping uninterrupted white noise into your conciousness because as it stands you are a minuteman with a hair trigger on that loose tongue of yours. Everyone is aware of the limitations of the border as it now stands, why would I deny that? My beef is with your assertations that you are fearful of the decline of "white" power.

The people who come across now are often, just people wanting to make it better for the lives they are responsible for. Likely they will not create waves in politics, or any other public forum you choose to "protect."

As these people assimilate, and gather what it is to be American, it is rational to assume that when they do have the privilege to vote or sway public direction, they will do so in a most American and genuine way.

Sometimes those who come across are drug dealers and thugs, or murderers, etc. but really what is going to keep them out of the biggest market in the world for their wares?

Do you really feel that sovereignty is at stake? In the greatest nation in the world? I was under the impression that immigrants have provided much of the animus in small things in history like civil rights and sciences and technology, literature and arts.

Your leaf blower comment was inappropriate, but again undeniable proof that your ignorance is in fact your most significant character trait. There are lines in civil discourse, and I am more than guilty of bumping those, I'll stop just shy of crossing though.

[kmf563]

Yes, I am dismayed at the prospect of losing a white majority, but I am comforted to know that my race will dominate the wealth of the nation for many generations to follow…….and what is likely your race will still dominate the leaf blowing needs of this country.

Wow. I didn't know douchebags had their own race now!

[flippity]

They're rerunning it right now and I'm tuned in.

This show seems to exaggerate -- and glamorize -- the gangs on the Southside. This is just the kind of pub these gangs want to strengthen their rep. Thanks a lot, History Channel.

On a lighter note, I'm getting a kick out of how the narrator calls OKC "The OKC."

at least he doesn't call it "Oak City"

i hate that.

[Midtowner]

^^^Can the moderators please BAN this racist troll? I can't believe he's being allowed to spew this racist bullsh!t. I mean, for real.

"...your race will still dominate the leaf blowing needs of this country."?!? <-- For real?!?

As far as banworthyness, pot, meet kettle.

He should be free to share whatever views he wants to share so long as he's relating said views without personal attacks (por ejamplo, "racist troll").

[Fastfwd]

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I am not tolerant. You are right. Ignorance such as yours cannot be tolerated.

And yet I don’t harass leaf blowers who are either too dumb or too lazy to learn English and assimilate into this country……. Are you saying perhaps that I should actively harass leaf blowers for being ignorant by your example? You have such a big issue with ignorance….maybe you will join me?

[
Your race will hold the majority of the Nation's wealth, fantastic. Who will decide the Nation's future?

It's a shame that you cannot see past race to what promises to be a very vibrant future.

Vibrant? Maybe a majority Hispanic vote will move to jazz up the National Anthem with some of that snappy Tejano rhythm? I do love me some Tejano! Sometimes I flip through the radio and think, damn, there just aren’t enough Tejano stations. [/QUOTE]

First of all, wtf? I’m really trying to interpret what it is that you’re attempting to say, but you make it difficult. Are you making reference to the dangers of unchecked immigration to the sovereignty of our nation? So, you’re making an admission of this potential reality and still insisting upon ‘open borders?’ That’s pretty bright.

You are an alarmist, and free press is really not a good thing for you to partake of friend. What you need is a calming voice, subliminal perhaps, pumping uninterrupted white noise into your conciousness because as it stands you are a minuteman with a hair trigger on that loose tongue of yours. Everyone is aware of the limitations of the border as it now stands, why would I deny that? My beef is with your assertations that you are fearful of the decline of "white" power.

Interpretation….. You really wish that the press wouldn’t report on news about the invasion of the country by Mexicans and their ilk and make an issue of it to fire up the opposition. I bet you raised a toast to Lou Dobbs going off the air, huh?

You really don’t have any concern for the threat to the sovereignty of the nation from the implications of the inevitable voting power given to these ‘expatriates’ of Mexico.

Your big problem with me is that I’m not taking the invasion lying down, huh? How dare I speak up about my disgust with it! Maybe if you call me ignorant enough I will just shut up and crank up some of the soothing tones of my favorite Tejano station and brace myself for the inevitable?

A word of advice…..if you’re going to be the one throwing around ‘ignorant’…use spell-check!

The people who come across now are often, just people wanting to make it better for the lives they are responsible for. Likely they will not create waves in politics, or any other public forum you choose to "protect."

As these people assimilate, and gather what it is to be American, it is rational to assume that when they do have the privilege to vote or sway public direction, they will do so in a most American and genuine way.

Sometimes those who come across are drug dealers and thugs, or murderers, etc. but really what is going to keep them out of the biggest market in the world for their wares?

Do you really feel that sovereignty is at stake? In the greatest nation in the world? I was under the impression that immigrants have provided much of the animus in small things in history like civil rights and sciences and technology, literature and arts.

Your leaf blower comment was inappropriate, but again undeniable proof that your ignorance is in fact your most significant character trait. There are lines in civil discourse, and I am more than guilty of bumping those, I'll stop just shy of crossing though.

There are people from countries all over the world who deserve the opportunity for a better life in the United States. It’s pathetic that there is apparently no immigration policy at all to dictate these people being given the opportunity to share in the promise of citizenship in my country.

Instead we just sit back and let a flood of Mexicans roll over the border from their lame country into ours which does nothing for assuring this assimilation of which you speak. It allows for them/you to isolate yourselves and never bother to learn English and fly your Mexican flags and hold on to your allegiance to your homeland. Which to me is indeed a threat to the sovereignty of this country when the population is under threat of seeing a majority of Hispanics/Mexicans in my lifetime.

You like to try to push my buttons and attempt to be nasty with your talk of ‘who will listen to the loss of your minority’ or what the hell ever you were trying to say…..too bad you don’t like a little reality check of who your people are in their role in this country in retort. LOL

[MGE1977]

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Listen homie, you've crossed about every line imaginable as far as I'm concerned with your rantings, and truthfully those who have got you so up in arms only had to cross one.

When you come to your senses, and join the table for logical discussion, maybe somebody will let you sit with the grown-ups. Until then, you are just the ignorant, bigoted, selfish poster that is only too fun to poke with a stick.

Keep railing friend, somebody somewhere is listening.

[kevinpate]

Wow. I didn't know douchebags had their own race now!

yep, and their own radio shows, tv networks, doctors, pharms, why, I suspect they even have some clothing and cosmetic lines that are just so special for them. Oh, and coming in 2010, their own tea kettles too!

[Laramie]

The level of discourse on this message board used to be a lot higher at one time. it's a shame.

Aren't there white power message boards for MikeOKC and BckWrd to visit somewhere else on the Internet?

They can go there and bemoan the browning of America and talk about how proud they are of their white ancestry.

They don't got there because that would be like the choir director preaching to the choir!

[proud2Bsooner]

Just watched the piece from Gangland.
OK, there are pockets in the City that are obviously rough. But who is going to walk around somwehere like SW 27th and Kentucky at night? Yes, there are gangs here. Yes they fight each other. But compared to many other places it's pretty calm. I thought the piece was hyped. Sure you stick a camera in the face of some Locos, and they're going to talk trash.
Just watching the piece, knowing "the 405" like I do...it didn't match up. That story could have been told in 75 other cities. I don't know who contacted History to do that, but it was lame. I regularly go from downtown to eat at Taco San Pedro, or go to the Southside Target or Ace, and it's not a big deal at all. I have yet to witness a gang war. I am guessing History calls police departments all over the country looking for gangs to do stories about...looking for fresh material for a popular show.

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Listen homie, you've crossed about every line imaginable as far as I'm concerned with your rantings, and truthfully those who have got you so up in arms only had to cross one.

When you come to your senses, and join the table for logical discussion, maybe somebody will let you sit with the grown-ups. Until then, you are just the ignorant, bigoted, selfish poster that is only too fun to poke with a stick.

Keep railing friend, somebody somewhere is listening.

LOL,…. Let’s recap. I made mention of a widely reported news story and my dismay in hearing of the news while in the context of commenting on this thread and my related experience. YOU DECIDED TO CHIME IN WITH PERSONAL INSULTS DIRECTED TOWARD ME. Then your ‘homies’ came out of the woodwork in the fashion that I am accustomed to witnessing firing off about what a ‘racist’ I am, bla, bla, bla……..in what I have seen time and time again as some pathetic effort to silence a viewpoint that you don’t agree with.

Then you refused to shut up and got slammed at every turn in your campaign to undermine the validity of my concerns. You want to cry when you get your feelings hurt by the fact being pointed out that your people are generally best qualified to run the leaf blowers in our society and try to make it out like I have burned a cross in your front yard. Boo ****ing hoo.

I’m more than willing to get this thread back onto the topic of what a ‘vibrant’ Hispanic gang culture we have been featured on national television as having in Oklahoma City. Let’s talk about what a fabulous contribution Hispanics are making to our image here. How they can do more than just blow our leaves.

[ronronnie1]

As far as banworthyness, pot, meet kettle.

He should be free to share whatever views he wants to share so long as he's relating said views without personal attacks (por ejamplo, "racist troll").

I never use racist talk. But if you want to defend a racist, then have at. I'm not surpised though. I suspect you share his/her views, por ejamplo.

[Fastfwd]

^^^Can the moderators please BAN this racist troll? I can't believe he's being allowed to spew this racist bullsh!t. I mean, for real.

"...your race will still dominate the leaf blowing needs of this country."?!? <-- For real?!?

I don’t care for homos either btw…… thought you might like to know since you’ve taken such a keen interest in my posting.

[ronronnie1]

Homophobic too? Not surprising. My posts get removed for daring to question xtians, but racism and homophobia are ignored? I doubt you'll be banned (this is Oklahoma afterall), so welcome to the board!

I'm over this conversation. Laterz.

[circled9]

i would like to see this. does anyone know if it will be replayed or another way to view it at this late date?

[trousers]

I'm amazed people are overlooking the real problem...
the Irish.

[FFLady]

i would like to see this. does anyone know if it will be replayed or another way to view it at this late date?

Not sure if this will help - but here is the History Channel's website, that lists their showings. :-)

http://www.history.com/content/gangland

[kevinpate]

I'm amazed people are overlooking the real problem...
the Irish.

The Irish ain't nevah no problem. You know better. Now, da Canadians, they be a problem