City revenues down; budget cuts looming

[Spartan]

Tell that to the person who died in a marijuana drug deal gone wrong and their families.

Tell that to the kids of people using marijuana who are in prison.

What are you, like 12 years old? This post just screams not being able to reason properly. I like how you accept the fact that the people who are in prison obviously deserve it simply for the fact that they are, after all, in prison. That's circular thinking.

And I have never heard of a "marijuana drug deal gone wrong" unless I'm just too sheltered to know the difference. When I was at OU I shared a house with a few roommates west of campus, guy next door was a marijuana dealer..the guy was the splitting image of the drug dealer in Pineapple Express.

I think you have marijuana mixed up with other drugs such as cocaine and heroin.

[gmwise]

What are you, like 12 years old? This post just screams not being able to reason properly. I like how you accept the fact that the people who are in prison obviously deserve it simply for the fact that they are, after all, in prison. That's circular thinking.

And I have never heard of a "marijuana drug deal gone wrong" unless I'm just too sheltered to know the difference. When I was at OU I shared a house with a few roommates west of campus, guy next door was a marijuana dealer..the guy was the splitting image of the drug dealer in Pineapple Express.

I think you have marijuana mixed up with other drugs such as cocaine and heroin.

Spartan,
Kinda scary we agree..lol

[kevinpate]

Tell that to the person who died in a marijuana drug deal gone wrong and their families.

Tell that to the kids of people using marijuana who are in prison.
There are victims in those cases.
NEXT!!!

Sure, I'll play NEXT with you.

A mj drug deal gone wrong, is not the same as someone only smoking mj.
It is a matter of someone trying to pass off something other than mj, or trying to rip someone off. That's just not the same as smoking mj.

As for kiddo victims, whether a child is a victim or better off is very dependent on what, if anything, else the mj smoker may have been involved with. A parent in prison does not autocreate a victim via the child.

be convinced in your own mind of whatever you choose. But also, please do try to not pass a brussel sprout to someone discussing an orange.

[soonerguru]

I'll say it again. Smoking marijuana is a victimless crime. Smoking a plant is not a criminal act. Making a plant a criminal possession is stupid.

[Spartan]

A lot of it is racially implicated..law enforcement is going to go after pot harder than anything else because it's easier to put the typical pot user through the system than other drugs. We don't go after meth heads or heroin addicts because that's a can of worms nobody wants to open, and frankly, if I was a big bad county DA I wouldn't wanna go near a heroin addict either, myself.

And going after cocaine users? Get real. You would be implicating the top 2% wealthiest people in society who can afford that. But the reality is that those are the people that pose an infinitely greater threat to society than kids smoking pot, but I digress.

Honestly doing any kind of drug is a victimless crime. Alcohol is a drug, a legal one, and it has done a lot worse to society than any of these drugs ever would. Think about it -- say you're screwed up on meth, there's no way you're going to drive home because you know you can't. But it's not illegal to be drink, and most people think that they're actually better drivers when they're drunk, so no big deal.

So yeah, we should get over the whole drug thing because it's all victimless, esp compared to alcohol, and nobody is suggesting we bring prohibition back. Decriminalizing a lot of drugs would probably make the problem go away, but even if we're not going to do that, let's at least be educated as to the different kinds of drugs and the types of people that use them. Heroin addicts and recreational pot users are completely different people, and let's be real here, we're not upset about the "crime" they're committing we're really just going after the people themselves -- in that case, let's be more discriminate in the groups that our drug policies actually do go after.

[ronronnie1]

^^^Amen!!!

[rcjunkie]

This started as a good thread/topic, "revenues down, budget cuts coming", now it's turned to "marijauna is bad----OK, laws are stupid. etc;"