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    DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
    NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
    1223 PM CDT WED OCT 07 2009

    VALID 081200Z - 091200Z

    ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS THU AFT AND EVE ACROSS PARTS OF
    THE SRN PLAINS INTO THE OZARK PLATEAU...

    ...SYNOPSIS...
    MODELS INDICATE THAT A MERGER OF SPLIT POLAR STREAMS WILL OCCUR
    DURING THIS FORECAST PERIOD...DOWNSTREAM OF AN ELONGATED DIGGING
    NORTHERN BRANCH LOW/TROUGH ACROSS THE CANADIAN PRAIRIES...AND
    NORTHWEST OF A BUILDING SUBTROPICAL RIDGE OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S.
    AND WESTERN ATLANTIC. THIS IS EXPECTED TO RESULT IN AN
    INTENSIFYING...BROADLY ANTICYCLONIC HIGH LEVEL JET CORE ACROSS THE
    UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND UPPER GREAT LAKES REGION INTO
    SOUTHEASTERN CANADA. AS A VIGOROUS SHORT WAVE IMPULSE DIGS AROUND
    THE SOUTHWESTERN PERIPHERY OF THE CANADIAN TROUGH...AN INCREASINGLY
    SHEARED SOUTHERN BRANCH CLOSED LOW/TROUGH IS PROGGED TO LIFT OUT OF
    THE FOUR CORNERS STATES INTO THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS BY LATE
    THURSDAY NIGHT OR EARLY FRIDAY. ALTHOUGH VARIABILITY EXISTS AMONG
    THE GUIDANCE...IT SEEMS PROBABLE THAT FORCING DOWNSTREAM OF THIS
    LATTER FEATURE WILL SUPPORT THE EVOLUTION OF A SIGNIFICANT WAVE
    ALONG A DEVELOPING SURFACE FRONT ACROSS PARTS OF THE SOUTH CENTRAL
    PLAINS AND OZARK PLATEAU INTO THE LOWER OHIO VALLEY. THIS LIKELY
    WILL BE PRECEDED BY A STRONG RETURN FLOW OF MOISTURE FROM THE
    WESTERN GULF COAST REGION /WHERE SURFACE DEW POINTS ARE NOW IN THE
    UPPER 70S AND PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES ARE IN EXCESS OF 2
    INCHES/...ON A 40-50+ KT SOUTHERLY 850 MB JET. ASSOCIATED
    DESTABILIZATION AND LARGE-SCALE FORCING FOR UPWARD VERTICAL MOTION
    ARE EXPECTED TO CONTRIBUTE TO INCREASING CONVECTIVE POTENTIAL FROM
    PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI AND OHIO
    VALLEYS.

    ...SRN PLAINS INTO MID MS/LWR OH VALLEYS...
    AGEOSTROPHIC FORCING IN THE RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION OF THE HIGH LEVEL
    JET IS EXPECTED TO SUPPORT AN EVOLVING CONVECTIVE BAND WITHIN AN
    ELEVATED WARM ADVECTION REGIME TO THE NORTH OF A DEVELOPING SURFACE
    FRONT BY 12Z THURSDAY...FROM PARTS OF NORTHERN OKLAHOMA AND
    SOUTHERN/EASTERN KANSAS INTO NORTHERN/CENTRAL MISSOURI. ACTIVITY
    MAY EXTEND WITHIN A LOW-LEVEL CONFLUENT ZONE ...TO THE WEST OF THE
    LOW-LEVEL JET AXIS...SOUTH OF THE WARM FRONT INTO WESTERN
    OKLAHOMA...AND PROBABLY WILL PERSIST THROUGH MUCH OF THE DAY...WITH
    ONLY A SLOW EASTWARD PROGRESSION.

    TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THIS CONVECTION...IN THE DEVELOPING WARM SECTOR
    ACROSS PARTS OF NORTHERN TEXAS AND EASTERN OKLAHOMA INTO SOUTHWEST
    MISSOURI...DAYTIME HEATING IS STILL UNCERTAIN DUE TO THE POSSIBLE
    PRESENCE OF CONSIDERABLE CLOUD COVER ASSOCIATED WITH THE RETURNING
    MOISTURE. BUT...THIS ENVIRONMENT SEEMS LIKELY TO REMAIN
    PRECIPITATION FREE...WITH SURFACE DEW POINTS RISING INTO THE 70S.
    GUIDANCE GENERALLY SUGGESTS THAT THIS WILL CONTRIBUTE TO MIXED LAYER
    CAPE IN EXCESS OF 1000 J/KG BY LATE AFTERNOON.

    THIS DESTABILIZATION...COUPLED WITH STRENGTHENING FORCING ASSOCIATED
    WITH THE IMPULSE EMERGING FROM THE SOUTHWEST...SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT
    TO INITIATE VIGOROUS STORM DEVELOPMENT PRIOR TO NIGHTFALL. IN THE
    PRESENCE OF A MODERATELY STRONG AND SHEARED DEEP LAYER SOUTHWESTERLY
    MEAN FLOW...SEVERE STORMS ARE LIKELY. UPSCALE GROWTH INTO AT LEAST
    A BROKEN SQUALL LINE IS EXPECTED... BUT DISCRETE STORM DEVELOPMENT
    MAY PERSIST NEAR/JUST AHEAD AND TO THE SOUTH SOUTHWEST OF THE
    PRE-FRONTAL BAND THROUGH THE EVENING HOURS. GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE
    HODOGRAPHS NEAR/BELOW THE LOW-LEVEL JET AXIS...WITH SUBSTANTIAL
    CLOCKWISE CURVATURE...HIGH BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE CONTENT AND
    HUMIDITY WILL PROVIDE A FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR TORNADOES IN
    ISOLATED CELLS...AND PERHAPS WITHIN THE SQUALL LINE.
    OTHERWISE...DAMAGING WIND GUSTS AND HAIL WILL ALSO BE
    POSSIBLE...BEFORE ACTIVITY WEAKENS AS BOUNDARY LAYER INSTABILITY
    WANES ACROSS THE OZARK PLATEAU OVERNIGHT.

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    Main Threats...hail & wind.

    DAY 1 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
    NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
    1251 AM CDT THU OCT 08 2009

    VALID 081200Z - 091200Z

    ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM THE LWR OH VLY TO
    CNTRL/SWRN TX...

    ...SYNOPSIS...
    UPR LOW OVER THE DESERT SW IS EXPECTED TO OPEN INTO A WAVE THEN
    MERGE WITH THE NRN BRANCH OF THE POLAR WLYS BEFORE EJECTING ENE
    ACROSS THE CNTRL/SRN PLNS THURSDAY NIGHT. A MUCH WEAKER LEAD
    IMPULSE IS EXPECTED TO TRAVEL FROM THE SRN HIGH PLNS TO THE LWR OH
    VLY BY THURSDAY EVENING.

    AT THE SFC...A WRMFNT SITUATED FROM CNTRL TX TO THE CNTRL GULF CST
    WILL REDEVELOP NWD INTO PARTS OF OK...THE OZARK PLATEAU AND THE LWR
    OH VLY THURSDAY AFTN. A WEAK LOW...TIED TO THE AFOREMENTIONED LEAD
    WAVE...WILL TRAVEL ALONG THE FRONT FROM SRN MO INTO THE LWR OH VLY
    THURSDAY AFTN/EVE. BEHIND THIS WAVE...A CDFNT ASSOCD WITH THE NRN
    STREAM WAVE WILL SETTLE SEWD...REACHING THE OH VLY SWWD INTO CNTRL
    TX BY 12Z FRIDAY.

    ...LWR OH VLY TO SWRN TX...
    ELEVATED TSTM CLUSTERS...POSSIBLY PRODUCING MARGINALLY SVR
    HAIL...WILL BE ONGOING THURSDAY MORNING FROM CNTRL MO SWWD INTO NWRN
    OK AND THE TX PNHDL. ACTIVITY WILL BE ENHANCED BY A 50-55 KT SSWLY
    LLJ...AUGMENTED BY A WEAK MID-LVL WAVE AND ENTRANCE REGION OF A 160
    KT H25 JET. THIS ACTIVITY WILL DEVELOP DOWNSTREAM INTO THE MIDWEST
    DURING THE DAY. RAPID RECOVERY OF LLVL MOISTURE ALONG/S OF THE
    BANDED CONVECTION WILL PROBABLY RESULT IN MODEST DESTABILIZATION AND
    STRONG/SVR STORMS SHOULD DEVELOP ALONG SRN FRINGES OF THIS ACTIVITY.
    FCST HODOGRAPHS EXHIBIT SUBSTANTIAL LLVL SHEAR INVOF THE TRACK OF
    THE SFC LOW FROM PARTS OF SRN MO ENE INTO SRN IND LATE THURSDAY
    AFTN/EVE. HERE...ISOLD TORNADOES AND/OR DMGG WIND GUSTS CANNOT BE
    RULED OUT WITH EMBEDDED ROTATING CELLS.

    FARTHER SW...THERMODYNAMIC/KINEMATIC SET-UPS CONSISTING OF VERY HIGH
    PWATS...NEARLY PARALLEL MEAN 0-6KM SHEAR WITH RESPECT TO SW-NE
    ORIENTED CONVERGENCE ZONES...AND APCH OF THE POSITIVE-TILTED SWRN
    UPR WAVE SUGGEST A FAIRLY PROLONGED AND WIDESPREAD ZONE OF TSTMS
    FROM NWRN AR SWWD INTO SWRN TX. RATHER SHORT WAVELENGTH BETWEEN THE
    MORNING WAVE AND APCH OF THE PARENT UPR WAVE AND ASSOCD JETLETS WILL
    PROBABLY RESULT IN ONLY A BRIEF BREAK IN MORNING CONVECTION. THIS
    WILL ALLOW THE WARM SECTOR TO EXPAND N AND NW THROUGH THE AFTN.

    OVERALL WEAK CINH EXPECTED WILL LEAD TO A GRADUAL INCREASE IN TSTMS
    FROM NCNTRL/CNTRL OK SWWD INTO THE EDWARDS PLATEAU REGION AS EARLY
    AS LATE MORNING WITH SUBSEQUENT WAVES OF STORMS DEVELOPING WELL INTO
    THE EVENING HOURS...ESPECIALLY FROM ERN OK INTO CNTRL TX. SWLY DEEP
    LAYER SHEAR WILL INCREASE THROUGH THE EVENING WITH AN EXTENSIVE BAND
    OF TSTMS. EMBEDDED BRIEF SUPERCELLS CAN BE EXPECTED...WITH
    TRANSITIONS INTO SMALL-SCALE LEWPS AND BOWS AS THE CELLS TRANSLATE
    ENE. WHILE A BRIEF TORNADO CANNOT BE RULED OUT...THE PRIMARY SVR
    THREAT WILL BE DMGG WINDS.

    ..RACY/JEWELL.. 10/08/2009

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    Atmosphere is starting to really get unstable as the warm front continues to move north. Some areas of sun are helping this along and risk of severe weather will keep going up as long as it is out. Atmosphere is also totally saturated with a ton of moisture that will give us the heavy rain today and tonight.










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    OFB has now blasted through most of the metro with a temperature drop of nearly 20 degrees in an hour. Looks like the metro will be spared most of the severe weather, but sc OK might get some big storms, A few look like they are trying to go up near Altus.

    BTW Its 41 in the panhandle with a north wind of 34mph while its 87 in the se part of the state. Gotta love OK.

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    Starting to see some stronger storms develop in the Metro and to the SW. Hail will be the main risk.

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    MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 2082
    NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
    0242 PM CDT THU OCT 08 2009

    AREAS AFFECTED...NWRN TX...OK

    CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH LIKELY

    VALID 081942Z - 082045Z

    CONVECTION IS BEGINNING TO DEEPEN/INTENSIFY BOTH ALONG AND PRIMARILY
    JUST BEHIND SURGING COLD FRONT ACROSS OK...EXTENDING INTO NWRN TX.
    18Z SOUNDING FROM OUN APPEARS TO HAVE PROPERLY SAMPLED PRE-FRONTAL
    AIR MASS WITH SLIGHT CAPPING ALL BUT REMOVED WITHIN THE 850-700MB
    LAYER. EVEN SO...FRONTAL ASCENT IS NECESSARY FOR FREE CONVECTION
    AND THIS IS READILY OCCURRING DUE TO STRONG BUT VEERED LLJ. LATEST
    THINKING IS THUNDERSTORMS WILL CONTINUE TO INITIATE AND EVOLVE INTO
    A WELL ORGANIZED FRONTAL MCS OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS. GIVEN THE
    SOMEWHAT ELEVATED NATURE AND THE PROPENSITY FOR UNDERCUTTING...IT
    APPEARS THE PRIMARY SEVERE THREAT WILL BE DAMAGING WINDS...AND
    MARGINALLY SEVERE HAIL.

    ..DARROW.. 10/08/2009

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    Good thing I preview my posts before posting. We almost had twins. lol

    Storm coming up near Ft. Cobb towards the metro looks pretty impressive, I'm starting to wish I'd gotten my plants in the garage this morning. I'd planned on waiting til this evening or tomorrow. Oh well.

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    URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
    SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH NUMBER 758
    NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
    305 PM CDT THU OCT 8 2009

    THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A
    SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF

    SOUTHWEST INTO NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA
    NORTHWEST TEXAS

    EFFECTIVE THIS THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM 305 PM UNTIL
    1000 PM CDT.

    SCATTERED DAMAGING WINDS
    ISOLATED WIND GUSTS TO 70 MPH POSSIBLE
    SCATTERED LARGE HAIL TO 2.0 INCHES IN DIAMETER
    ISOLATED TORNADOES

    THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 80
    STATUTE MILES EAST AND WEST OF A LINE FROM 55 MILES SOUTH
    SOUTHWEST OF WICHITA FALLS TEXAS TO 5 MILES NORTH NORTHWEST OF
    TULSA OKLAHOMA. FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE THE
    ASSOCIATED WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU8).

    REMEMBER...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE
    FAVORABLE FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH
    AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR
    THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS
    AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS. SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAN AND OCCASIONALLY
    DO PRODUCE TORNADOES.

    DISCUSSION...THUNDERSTORMS WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE IN COVERAGE AND
    INTENSITY ACROSS THIS REGION THROUGH THE EVENING AHEAD OF STRONG
    SURFACE COLD FRONT. AIR MASS IS VERY MOIST AND MODERATELY UNSTABLE
    AHEAD OF THE FRONT...WITH EFFECTIVE SHEAR OF 40-50 KT. ACTIVITY MAY
    EVOLVE AS SUPERCELLS...WITH EVENTUAL EVOLUTION INTO ONE OR MORE
    LINES OF STORMS ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT THIS EVENING. INITIAL
    ACTIVITY BEHIND LEADING WIND SHIFT SHOULD REMAIN SLIGHTLY ELEVATED
    WITH PRIMARY THREAT OF LARGE HAIL...ALTHOUGH STORMS ROOTING INTO THE
    BOUNDARY LAYER AHEAD OF THE FRONT WILL BE CAPABLE OF WIND DAMAGE.

    AVIATION...A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT
    TO 2 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE WIND GUSTS TO 60
    KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO 400. MEAN STORM
    MOTION VECTOR 23035.

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    I'm happy it held off long enough to basically finish the moving from one apt to the other. I just have a few things left, but the weather wouldn't impact that. As soon I finished the major parts, it started raining. About 30 minutes ago, I was outside when I heard huge thundering and the funny thing it was downpouring and as soon it thundered so loudly, the rain slowed down a bit then picked up. lol

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    Check this out! It's new! From KFOR!

    Live Oklahoma Radar - 4 Warn Storm Tracker from KFOR-TV-DT NewsChannel 4 Oklahoma - KFOR

    First, there will be a commercial, then it will show a streaming radar from the station. On the video player, you can click on Chat and interact with others viewing the radar. At this time, someone going by StormTracker seem to believe a tornado outbreak is possible. lol

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    That guy StormTracker should be banned for being a moron. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by venture79 View Post
    That guy StormTracker should be banned for being a moron. lol
    Yeah, he should be. He could be saying "Tornado Warning is now in effect for Oklahoma county. A very large tornado was spotted on the ground in South OKC near ________ and _________. This is a dangerous tornado. Seek cover now!"



    I wonder who will be tempted to make a MikeMorgan username to spark a panic.

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    The storm just south of Lawton is begining to look like a wind threat....if it keeps together it might head toward Norman in about an hour. Looks like very heavy "tropical" downpours for all Of OkC for about the nect 2 hrs. Just in time for rush hour. Everyone be safe out there....the low lying areas could flood quickly!!!

    I'm looking forward to watching the NU @ Mizzou football game this evening. When I checked about noon they had already had 5 inches of rain in Columbia today with more very heavy rain headed that way. Go Huskers!!!

    EDIT: Storm now east of Lawton is severe warned.

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    Bulletin - immediate broadcast requested
    severe thunderstorm warning
    national weather service norman ok
    413 pm cdt thu oct 8 2009

    the national weather service in norman has issued a

    * severe thunderstorm warning for...
    Southern grady county in central oklahoma...
    Mcclain county in central oklahoma...
    Northwestern garvin county in southern oklahoma...
    Northeastern stephens county in southern oklahoma...

    * until 500 pm cdt

    * at 412 pm cdt...national weather service radar indicated a severe
    thunderstorm 3 miles west of bray...moving northeast at 55 mph.
    Another strong to severe storm was located near ninnekah and was
    moving northeast at 50 mph.

    Hazards in the warning include...
    Hail up to the size of quarters...
    Wind gusts to 60 mph...

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    Update from OUN to show the surface boundaries.


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    URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
    TORNADO WATCH NUMBER 759
    NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
    440 PM CDT THU OCT 8 2009

    THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A
    TORNADO WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF

    PARTS OF SOUTHERN AND EASTERN OKLAHOMA
    PARTS OF NORTHWEST AND NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS

    EFFECTIVE THIS THURSDAY AFTERNOON FROM 440 PM UNTIL MIDNIGHT CDT.

    SEVERAL TORNADOES
    SCATTERED DAMAGING WINDS
    ISOLATED WIND GUSTS TO 70 MPH POSSIBLE
    SCATTERED LARGE HAIL
    ISOLATED HAIL TO 2.5 INCHES IN DIAMETER POSSIBLE

    THE TORNADO WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 60 STATUTE
    MILES NORTH AND SOUTH OF A LINE FROM 55 MILES WEST NORTHWEST OF
    ABILENE TEXAS TO 30 MILES NORTH NORTHEAST OF POTEAU OKLAHOMA.
    FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE THE ASSOCIATED WATCH
    OUTLINE UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU9).

    REMEMBER...A TORNADO WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR
    TORNADOES AND SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH
    AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR
    THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS
    AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS.

    OTHER WATCH INFORMATION...CONTINUE...WW 758...

    DISCUSSION...SHEAR PROFILES ACROSS THE WARM SECTOR ARE FAVORABLE FOR
    SUPERCELLS WITH 40-50 KT LLJ. COUPLED WITH MLCAPES AOA 2500 J/KG AND
    LOW LCL/S ALONG WITH LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WINDS TORNADOES WILL BE
    POSSIBLE WITH ANY SUPERCELL THAT DEVELOPS ALONG AND AHEAD OF SLOWLY
    SEWD MOVING FRONTAL ZONE.

    AVIATION...TORNADOES AND A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL
    SURFACE AND ALOFT TO 2.5 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE
    WIND GUSTS TO 60 KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO
    550. MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR 24035.

    New Tornado Watch mainly south.

    SPC AWW 082138
    WW 759 TORNADO OK TX 082140Z - 090500Z
    AXIS..60 STATUTE MILES NORTH AND SOUTH OF LINE..
    55WNW ABI/ABILENE TX/ - 30NNE RKR/POTEAU OK/ ..AVIATION COORDS.. 50NM N/S /38WNW ABI - 8WNW FSM/ HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT..2.5 INCHES. WIND GUSTS..60 KNOTS.
    MAX TOPS TO 550. MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR 24035.

    . OKLAHOMA COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE

    ADAIR ATOKA BRYAN
    CARTER CHEROKEE CHOCTAW
    COAL COTTON GARVIN
    HASKELL HUGHES JEFFERSON
    JOHNSTON LATIMER LE FLORE
    LOVE MARSHALL MCINTOSH
    MURRAY MUSKOGEE OKFUSKEE
    OKMULGEE PITTSBURG PONTOTOC
    PUSHMATAHA SEMINOLE SEQUOYAH
    STEPHENS

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    Bulletin - immediate broadcast requested
    severe thunderstorm warning
    national weather service norman ok
    449 pm cdt thu oct 8 2009

    the national weather service in norman has issued a

    * severe thunderstorm warning for...
    Eastern cleveland county in central oklahoma...
    Southeastern mcclain county in central oklahoma...
    Pottawatomie county in central oklahoma...
    Western seminole county in east central oklahoma...

    * until 530 pm cdt

    * at 449 pm cdt...national weather service radar indicated severe
    thunderstorms along a line extending from eastern norman to 7 miles
    southwest of etowah to 5 miles southwest of rosedale...moving
    northeast at 55 mph.

    Hazards in the warning include...
    Hail up to the size of nickels...
    Wind gusts to 65 mph...

    * locations in the warning include asher...bethel acres...bowlegs...
    Brooksville...centerview...dale...earlsboro...east ern norman...
    Etowah...harjo...johnson...lake thunderbird...little...macomb...
    Maud...pink...rosedale...seminole...shawnee...sout heastern oklahoma
    city...st. Louis...stella...tecumseh...tribbey...trousdale and
    wanette.

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    Here comes the cold air...


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    DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
    NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
    1230 PM CDT TUE OCT 20 2009

    VALID 211200Z - 221200Z

    ...NO SVR TSTM AREAS FORECAST...

    ...SYNOPSIS...
    IN MID-UPPER LEVELS...PROGRESSIVE SHORTWAVE TRAIN WILL BE EMBEDDED
    WITHIN NEARLY ZONAL LARGE-SCALE PATTERN OVER CONUS. MAIN SHORTWAVE
    TROUGH FOR THIS FCST IS EVIDENT IN 12Z RAOB ANALYSES AND MOISTURE
    CHANNEL IMAGERY INVOF SRN TIP OF NV. THIS FEATURE IS EXPECTED TO
    EVOLVE INTO CLOSED CYCLONE COVERING MUCH OF NM...SRN CO AND ERN AZ
    BY 21/12Z. LOW THEN SHOULD PIVOT NEWD ACROSS SRN/CENTRAL HIGH
    PLAINS DAY-2...WEAKENING SLIGHTLY BUT MAINTAINING HIGHLY AMPLIFIED
    SHORTWAVE TROUGHING OVER WRN PORTIONS KS/OK/TX BY END OF PERIOD. BY
    THAT TIME...THIS FEATURE WILL PHASE AT LEAST PARTIALLY WITH BOTH
    REMAINS OF EAST-PACIFIC TS RICK AND WEAKER/NRN-STREAM TROUGH OVER
    UPPER MIDWEST...RESULTING IN TROUGHING FROM LS ACROSS CENTRAL CONUS
    TO W-CENTRAL MEX. SPECTRAL MODEL YIELDS SLOW/OUTLIER SOLUTION WITH
    THIS SYSTEM COMPARED TO WRF AND MOST SREF MEMBERS...WITH SREF
    CONSENSUS BEING CLOSE TO OPERATIONAL WRF AND PREFERRED FOR THIS
    FCST.

    AT SFC...WAVY/QUASISTATIONARY FRONTAL ZONE IS ANALYZED FROM WRN IA
    SWD THROUGH WEAK LOW OVER SERN CO...THEN WWD ACROSS S-CENTRAL CO AND
    NWWD TO W-CENTRAL CO. FRONT IS FCST TO INTENSIFY E OF ROCKIES
    OVERNIGHT DAY-1 THEN PLUNGE SEWD ACROSS MOST OF ERN NM AND TX
    PANHANDLE BY 22/00Z. BY 22/12Z...FRONTAL-WAVE LOW SHOULD FORM INVOF
    NRN LOWER MI AHEAD OF NRN STREAM SHORTWAVE TROUGH...WITH COLD FRONT
    TRAILING ACROSS SRN WI...SERN IA...SERN OK...TO CENTRAL TX AND SRN
    EDWARDS PLATEAU REGION. WEAK FRONTAL-WAVE LOW MAY PERSIST
    ALONG...AND MOVE EWD WITH...THAT SEGMENT OF BAROCLINIC ZONE OVER SRN
    KS AND SWRN MO.

    TWO AREAS OF MRGL/CONDITIONAL SVR POTENTIAL APPEAR ATTM...WITH LACK
    OF MORE ROBUST BUOYANCY/INSTABILITY BEING LIMITING FACTOR FOR
    GREATER UNCONDITIONAL SVR PROBABILITIES. SOME POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR
    SPATIAL OVERLAP OR BLENDING OF THESE REGIMES...HENCE A SINGLE/LARGE
    5-PERCENT SWATH.

    ...SRN HIGH PLAINS...OK...SRN KS...N TX...
    ANALYZED 20/12Z 850 MB CHART INDICATES MOISTURE ABOVE SFC EMANATING
    FROM CONFLUENCE OF BOTH GULF OF MEXICO AND PACIFIC SOURCES -- LATTER
    INCLUDING TS RICK. COMBINED MOISTURE SOURCE WILL FUEL ONGOING
    CONVECTION AT START OF PERIOD...WITH MODIFIED GULF FETCH BECOMING
    MORE DOMINANT EWD ACROSS THIS REGION. SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS TSTMS
    ARE POSSIBLE INVOF COLD FRONT MOVING EWD FROM TX PANHANDLE EARLY IN
    PERIOD ACROSS OK AND SRN KS DURING DAYTIME AND EVENING. FCST
    VERTICAL WIND PROFILES FEATURE STG UPPER LEVEL WINDS...MEAN WIND
    VECTOR ALIGNED NEARLY PARALLEL TO FRONTAL ZONE...AND BACKING OF FLOW
    WITH HEIGHT FROM ROUGHLY 850-700 MB. THIS INDICATES PREDOMINANTLY
    LINEAR MODE. EARLY/MRGL HAIL AND GUST THREAT OVER SRN HIGH PLAINS
    WILL TRANSITION TO EPISODIC POTENTIAL FOR STG TO ISOLATED SVR GUSTS
    WITH BOW/LEWP FORMATIONS AS SYSTEM SHIFTS EWD. PARCELS SHOULD
    BECOME SFC-BASED OR VERY NEARLY SO FROM VICINITY KS/OK BORDER SWD
    WITH WAA AND DIFFUSE DIURNAL HEATING. HOWEVER...DESPITE INCREASING
    LOW LEVEL MOISTURE...MLCAPE MAY ATTAIN ONLY 100-500 J/KG RANGE AHEAD
    OF FRONT. POTENTIAL FOR APPRECIABLE DESTABILIZATION WILL BE LIMITED
    BY COMBINATION OF RELATIVELY WEAK LAPSE RATES ALOFT AND PRESENCE OF
    EXTENSIVE CLOUD/PRECIP COVER TO LIMIT DIABATIC SFC HEATING.

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    Day 1 convective outlook
    nws storm prediction center norman ok
    1237 am cdt wed oct 21 2009

    valid 211200z - 221200z

    ...no svr tstm areas forecast...

    ...synopsis...

    Mid/upper-level low initially over nm will begin to lift newd into
    the cntrl plains as strong vorticity maximum rotates around parent
    circulation. Associated zone of concentrated height falls/dynamic
    forcing for ascent will concurrently spread newd from the srn high
    plains through ks...ok and n tx. At the surface...low pressure
    initially over wrn tx will develop from wrn tx into ern ok by thu
    morning. Trailing cold front will push ewd through wrn/cntrl parts
    of ok/tx.

    ...wrn/nrn tx into ok...

    Warm sector air mass will continue to modify through the
    period...aided by 40-50+ kt sly llj...with dewpoints increasing
    through the 50s into lower 60s. However...the combination of
    widespread clouds and weak lapse rates will limit mlcape to less
    than 500 j/kg.

    Tstms are expected to be ongoing at the onset of the forecast period
    over wrn tx within zone of deep ascent ahead of upper system. This
    activity will likely increase in coverage and intensity today while
    progressing ewd in advance of pacific front. Both nam and gfs
    simulated water vapor imagery suggest that a midlevel dry slot may
    develop newd through nwrn tx into parts of wrn/cntrl ok this
    afternoon...potentially serving to enhance storm intensity given
    breaks in low clouds. Strengthening...meridional deep-layer shear
    oriented largely parallel to pacific front suggests that dominant
    storm mode may trend toward linear.

    Currently...it appears that the weak instability will limit a more
    robust wind/hail threat. Therefore...only low severe probabilities
    will be maintained.

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    I remember reading a post not too long ago (2-4 weeks) about how we should have nice fall colors because of the moderate temps and plentiful rainfall and had planned on quoting them so this post is going to be a little OT, Sorry

    But they were right.....on the westside (council groves) it's the best it's been in years. Amazing how quickly they've changed this year too. Two weeks ago nothing, last weekend the Oaks started changing, and now they're at peak color. I'll try to get some pics in the next couple of days.

    Sad part is the whole neighborhood is tinted in burnt orange....not my favorite color this year. LOL

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    LOL...it is nice to see some fall colors out there. That is one thing I missed from living back east. This time of the year was always so beautiful outside, then to come here with next to no trees (relatively speaking of course)...it was odd. Granted, it was also odd that there were green leaves well into November most years too. LOL

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    DAY 1 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
    NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
    1250 AM CDT SUN OCT 25 2009

    VALID 251200Z - 261200Z

    ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS LATE THIS AFTN AND EVE ACROSS
    PARTS OF THE SRN PLAINS...

    ...SYNOPSIS...
    MODELS INDICATE THAT A VERY STRONG ZONAL NORTHERN PACIFIC JET WILL
    BEGIN TO BECOME MORE AMPLIFIED DURING THIS FORECAST PERIOD. A SPEED
    MAXIMUM ASSOCIATED WITH ONE SLOWLY GROWING WAVE IS PROGGED TO
    FLATTEN UPPER RIDGING ALONG THE BRITISH COLUMBIA/PACIFIC NORTHWEST
    COAST. AS THIS OCCURS...A BROAD DOWNSTREAM BELT OF MODESTLY STRONG
    CYCLONIC FLOW...NOW ENCOMPASSING MUCH OF THE U.S...APPEARS LIKELY TO
    BEGIN TO SPLIT...WITH AN UPPER TROUGH AMPLIFYING WITHIN THE SOUTHERN
    STREAM TO THE LEE OF THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES. AT THE SAME TIME...A
    WESTERN ATLANTIC SUBTROPICAL RIDGE IS EXPECTED TO BUILD WEST
    NORTHWESTWARD INTO THE SOUTHEAST STATES...WITH SHORT WAVE RIDGING
    BUILDING NORTHWARD THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES...IN THE WAKE OF A STRONG
    SHORT WAVE IMPULSE ACCELERATING THROUGH QUEBEC AND THE CANADIAN
    MARITIMES.

    IN THE WAKE OF A COLD FRONT ADVANCING EAST OF MUCH OF THE ATLANTIC
    SEABOARD...IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE EASTERN CANADIAN
    SYSTEM...CONVECTIVE POTENTIAL EAST OF THE MISSISIPPI VALLEY APPEARS
    NEGLIGIBLE...WITH THE POSSIBLE EXCEPTION OF SOUTHEAST FLORIDA
    PENINSULA COASTAL AREAS. POTENTIAL FOR THUNDERSTORMS ALSO APPEARS
    NEGLIGIBLE ACROSS MUCH OF THE WEST UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF UPPER
    RIDGING. BUT...A RAPID RETURN FLOW OF MOISTURE OFF THE GULF OF
    MEXICO...AHEAD OF THE AMPLIFYING SOUTHERN BRANCH TROUGH...IS
    EXPECTED TO RESULT IN CONSIDERABLE THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY ACROSS THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS LATE THIS AFTERNOON INTO TONIGHT. SOME OF THESE
    STORMS COULD BECOME SEVERE.

    ...SOUTHERN PLAINS...
    LOW-LEVEL COLD ADVECTION IS ALREADY UNDERWAY TO THE LEE OF THE NORTH
    CENTRAL ROCKIES...AND MODELS SUGGEST THAT COLD SURFACE RIDGING WILL
    NOSE SOUTHWARD TOWARD THE TEXAS SOUTH PLAINS...AS AN INITIAL SHORT
    WAVE TROUGH LIFTS NORTHEAST OF THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES EARLY IN THE
    DAY. EASTWARD PROGRESSION OF THE FRONT WILL NOT BE AS RAPID...AS
    ANOTHER STRENGTHENING SHORT WAVE IMPULSE DIGS THROUGH THE SOUTHERN
    ROCKIES. IN RESPONSE TO THIS LATTER FEATURE...DEEP LAYER SOUTHERLY
    FLOW WILL PERSIST OFF THE WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO THROUGH THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS. MODELS SUGGEST THAT THIS WILL BE ACCOMPANIED BY A
    SIGNIFICANT MOISTURE RETURN... INCLUDING LOWER/MID 60S SURFACE DEW
    POINTS ACROSS THE TEXAS HILL COUNTRY THROUGH NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS AND
    SOUTH CENTRAL OKLAHOMA.

    BEFORE UPPER FLOW BECOMES INCREASINGLY MERIDIONAL...MID-LEVEL LAPSE
    RATES ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN STEEP ENOUGH TO SUPPORT A WINDOW OF
    OPPORTUNITY FOR WEAK TO MODERATE BOUNDARY LAYER BASED
    DESTABILIZATION AND STORM DEVELOPMENT LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND
    EVENING. INITIAL VIGOROUS CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT APPEARS LIKELY
    NEAR A WEAK SURFACE LOW ALONG A PRE-FRONTAL THERMAL RIDGE ACROSS
    PARTS OF CENTRAL/SOUTH CENTRAL OKLAHOMA...BEFORE MID-LEVEL COOLING
    WEAKENS CAP SOUTHWARD TOWARD THE FRONT/DRY LINE INTERSECTION ACROSS
    NORTHWEST/NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS. THIS ACTIVITY WILL BE SUPPORTED BY
    INCREASINGLY DIFLUENT AND DIVERGENT UPPER FLOW.

    IN THE PRESENCE OF STRONG DEEP LAYER SHEAR BENEATH 30-50+ KT
    SOUTHWESTERLY 500 MB WIND FIELDS...DISCRETE SUPERCELLS ARE POSSIBLE
    INITIALLY...BEFORE LARGE-SCALE FORCING SUPPORTS A GROWING CONVECTIVE
    LINE/CLUSTER ACROSS THE RED RIVER VALLEY/NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS THIS
    EVENING. LARGE HAIL/DAMAGING WIND GUSTS SEEM TO BE THE PRIMARY
    SEVERE THREATS...UNTIL THE COLD FRONT SURGES MORE RAPIDLY THROUGH
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...UNDERCUTTING THE STRONGER CONVECTION.

    ISOLATED/WIDELY SCATTERED CONVECTION...PERHAPS SOME THUNDERSTORM
    ACTIVITY...MAY OCCUR WITHIN THE MOISTENING PRE-FRONTAL BOUNDARY
    LAYER ACROSS SOUTHEAST TEXAS. BUT...A RELATIVELY WARM MID-LEVEL
    ENVIRONMENT MAY LIMIT THE STRENGTH OF THE UPDRAFTS UNTIL VERY LATE
    IN THE PERIOD...MORE LIKELY UNTIL AFTER 12Z MONDAY.

    ..KERR/SMITH.. 10/25/2009

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    MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 2136
    NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
    0520 PM CDT SUN OCT 25 2009

    AREAS AFFECTED...FOR N CNTRL TX INTO S CNTRL OK

    CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH LIKELY

    VALID 252220Z - 260015Z

    TRENDS ARE BEING MONITORED FOR AN INCREASING SEVERE THREAT WHICH
    WILL LIKELY REQUIRE A WW BY EARLY EVENING.

    AS AN INITIAL SHORT WAVE TROUGH LIFTS THROUGH THE SOUTH CENTRAL
    PLAINS...MODELS CONTINUE TO SUGGEST THAT THE SURFACE COLD
    FRONT...NOW NOSING THROUGH WESTERN OKLAHOMA AND THE SOUTHERN TEXAS
    PANHANDLE...WILL BEGIN TO SURGE MORE RAPIDLY EASTWARD AND SOUTHWARD
    INTO THE LOWER SOUTHERN PLAINS. THIS WILL OCCUR AS A SOUTHERLY
    LOW-LEVEL RETURN FLOW CONTINUES TO MOISTEN OFF THE WESTERN GULF OF
    MEXICO...AND LARGE-SCALE ASCENT INCREASES DOWNSTREAM OF A MUCH
    STRONGER SHORT WAVE IMPULSE STILL DIGGING THROUGH THE
    CENTRAL/SOUTHERN ROCKIES. FORCING AND DESTABILIZATION ARE EXPECTED
    TO SUPPORT INCREASINGLY WIDESPREAD CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT THIS
    EVENING ACROSS EASTERN OKLAHOMA AND NORTHERN/CENTRAL TEXAS.

    THE TENDENCY PROBABLY WILL BE FOR THIS ACTIVITY TO DEVELOP
    ABOVE...OR BE UNDERCUT BY...THE SOUTHWARD ADVANCING FRONT.
    HOWEVER...GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SUGGEST THAT A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY
    WILL EXIST LATE THIS AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING FOR PRE-FRONTAL
    BOUNDARY LAYER BASED STORM DEVELOPMENT IN THE PRESENCE OF STRONG
    SHEAR BENEATH 40+ KT SOUTHWESTERLY 500 MB FLOW.

    STORM INITIATION SEEMS MOST PROBABLE NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF THE
    COLD FRONT AND A BROAD/DIFFUSE DRY LINE STRUCTURE...NEAR/NORTH AND
    WEST OF DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTO THE ARDMORE OK AREA. NEAR SURFACE
    PARCELS CHARACTERIZED BY CAPE OF 1000-1500 J/KG ARE STILL CAPPED
    ACROSS THIS REGION...BUT FURTHER MOISTURE INCREASES COUPLED WITH
    INCREASINGLY DIFLUENT AND DIVERGENT UPPER FLOW COULD WEAKEN
    INHIBITION AS EARLY AS 00-01Z. DISCRETE SUPERCELLS ARE EXPECTED
    INITIALLY...BEFORE LARGE-SCALE FORCING CONTRIBUTES TO A GROWING
    CONVECTIVE LINE/CLUSTER SOUTHWARD/SOUTHEASTWARD ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL
    TEXAS .

    ..KERR.. 10/25/2009

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