University North Park

[Soonerman]

I kinda thought Dicks was suppose to go to UNP. Alao is JCPenney still planning on relocating from the mall to UNP?

[jbrown84]

Dick's is 10,000 times better than Academy.

[Chase]

I hear Dick's will make an appearance in Oklahoma in 2010 or 11.

[dop]

Where is the Academy in Norman going to be? I saw a job site had them looking for a manager for norman location.....

[Soonerman]

I think it's going in UNP.

[oudirtypop]

Its going directly to the south of kohls

[jbrown84]

I hear Dick's will make an appearance in Oklahoma in 2010 or 11.

I believe they are set to open in the Memorial & Western development.

[Jesseda]

anything new announced yet?

[Dekoung]

I can't find it now but read an article in either Norman paper or Oklahoman that a man who has opened a high end hair salon in UNP is very disappointed that a couple of cheapy shops have recently gone in near him. I have not been in them but have driven by and they are no great addition to UNP.

[oneforone]

I can't find it now but read an article in either Norman paper or Oklahoman that a man who has opened a high end hair salon in UNP is very disappointed that a couple of cheapy shops have recently gone in near him. I have not been in them but have driven by and they are no great addition to UNP.

Why does that really matter? Not everybody likes to pay a fortune for a haircut. I hate to be the break the news to you but, upscale goes out the window when Target is your anchor and the mile of cars is your neighbor to the south.

[Chase]

It is hard to justify Upscale in a college town. Stores like Target do great but Nordstroms would probably lose money on a deal in Norman.

[bbhill]

I can't find it now but read an article in either Norman paper or Oklahoman that a man who has opened a high end hair salon in UNP is very disappointed that a couple of cheapy shops have recently gone in near him. I have not been in them but have driven by and they are no great addition to UNP.

Are we talking about Scott Risk's hair studio? LOL Somehow I don't think that they studied the demographics of Norman very well before they took the plunge from Vegas. . . Nothing against the studio--I've never been there, because I'm not into paying $40 for a mens hair cut.

[Soonerman]

I wonder when Academy is supposed to open?

[Jesseda]

ha ha upscale thats funny, petco, hallmark, kohls, target.. to me this just seems like a regular shopping strip mall, i cant beleive there nothing even getting close to good, at least add a jcpennies to the mix or somthing...

[Chase]

With the move of JCP south to Moore, it will probably be a few years before they would open a store in Norman. It is too close to their new store. UNP would probably be better if a mall did not already exist in Norman. These stores are have a lease and when their lease is up, they might consider the move to UNP. However, that leaves a vacancy at the mall.

[BG918]

With the move of JCP south to Moore, it will probably be a few years before they would open a store in Norman. It is too close to their new store. UNP would probably be better if a mall did not already exist in Norman. These stores are have a lease and when their lease is up, they might consider the move to UNP. However, that leaves a vacancy at the mall.

I would imagine the stores already in the mall are staying there and that the upscale portion of UNP never happens. If anything they will start building houses and apartments on the land north of Rock Creek up to Tecumseh. I could see that location being popular for people that want to be close to Target and the other stores/restaurants in UNP but also have direct access to I-35, especially those that live in Norman and commute to OKC. The few upscale stores that locate in Norman will go in Campus Corner.

[Chicken In The Rough]

"...ha ha upscale thats funny, petco, hallmark, kohls, target..."

UNP is upscale just as Belle Isle Station is upscale. Developers and civic officials have learned to throw that term around in order to get people to agree to allow its construction. I don't trust the lot of them anymore.

[kevinpate]

Based merely on observation of JCP-Sooner traffic levels, there wouldn't seem to be any great need for them to relocate to UNP. It will be interesting to see it develop, and observe whether the further infill is mostly new shops in town, or others relocating to be closer to the NW quad neighborhoods

[jbrown84]

I don't think Belle Isle Station ever claimed to be upscale. It has a Wal-Mart for goodness sake.

[Dekoung]

Why does that really matter? Not everybody likes to pay a fortune for a haircut. I hate to be the break the news to you but, upscale goes out the window when Target is your anchor and the mile of cars is your neighbor to the south.

No need to be a wise guy. You don't need to break anything to me. If you are familiar with the UNP vision it was to have upscale shops and Life Style Center to east of big box stores. Names like Nordstrom's , Saks, Williams Sonoma etc were bandied about. In the kind of development UNP was envisioned to be, the middle range stores like Target would anchor one area and then a higher end store the upscale area. If you go to Dallas you can see this very kind of development.

I agree the hair salon guy's demographics are faulty.

[Jesseda]

i thought belks was coming to unp what happen? plus a heath market?

[progressiveboy]

i thought belks was coming to unp what happen? plus a heath market?

Belks is nothing to write home about. Very bland clothing line and merchandise is very "average" IMHO. One store that comes to mind that is moderate priced and is not your average run of the mill store is Cost Plus Market. This would be a good fit for the time being until all those other upscale retailers decide to come to UNP. It is going to take patience as the economy has really tanked so lots of slow progress.

[king183]

It's really interesting to re-read the posts and articles from the beginning of the thread and compare what we were promised when this project first started and what we're getting now. Upscale. High End Hotels (there's 1). New Urbanist. Upscale residential. Etc. Instead, it's bland, typical stores that offer very little that we didn't already have.

It's getting harder to tell the difference between strip-mall Moore and Norman these days.

[jbrown84]

I do think the architecture is a huge step up from 90% of OKC strip centers. But yes, the selection of stores is nothing special at all.

[blangtang]

I do think the architecture is a huge step up from 90% of OKC strip centers. But yes, the selection of stores is nothing special at all.

the architecture seems to be strip-mall-clap-with-bricks, somewhat. like halfway up the buildings, with the tops and backs sporting the generic tan fake stucco styrofoam.

bah.

definitely worthy of development incentives.

bah