Crossroads Mall

[megax11]

It is green marble for pillars on the wall, with white marble flooring, with small green marble diamonds in the middle of every four white marble tiles on the ground.

I could be wrong in calling it marble on the white and green, but that is the best I can describe the look.

Even if it is a 50/50 shot at having a girl, I knew 100% from that day in December that in 4 months, when it was time to find out what it was, that it would be a girl. Told fiancee when she said it would be a boy.

However, I will omitt that dream, and see if you can answer this.

In early 2000, I had a dream I was with a girl. She had a certain look to her. In the summer of 2001, when I broke up with my then girlfriend, I was at my modeling agency, and sure enough, I met the girl I saw and was with, in my dream in early 2000. Also convienant that we met while I was single, just like the dream I had when I was still with the then girlfriend in early 2000. Something that happened in my dream between the girl I met in 2001, and myself in early 2000, happened during the summer. We went to Las Vegas.

I'd like to see what everyone thinks about that. There is no 50/50 there, with so many humans on the planet already.

Now here is something potentially bad, or maybe it can be used to save a life.

At my current house, I had a dream. All I remember in this dream is cleaning the bathroom, and thinking how my 3 year old daughter suffered while dying. I then thought about how she drowned somehow, that part wasn't clear. I walk out of my bathroom and look at pictures that were hanging in my hallway... I noticed the pattern on the pictures right before I woke up. Three months later, my fiancee comes home, with some picture frames. She hangs them up while I'm writing my screenplay in my bedroom turned office. She asks me to take a look and give an opinion on if they looked nice. I go out, and guess what? They're hanging in the same spot as my dream, and they're the same color, and pattern... Only thing is, my daughter is still alive. So I use that dream in constantly reminding my fiancee that anytime she goes out to her mother's house, to make sure my daughter Jillian, doesn't somehow slip away from their eye's, long enough to get to the swimming pool, and fall in.

Infact, anytime Jillian is going to be near water, I make sure she is overly supervised, as that dream could've been telling me how to save a life.

It just goes to show that sometimes you are allowed to see beyond the box, and use it in a good means. Wether it is to see parts of a potential future, or to save someone from a horrible accident.

Explain those last two dreams for me.

[Patrick]

Since I'm a medical doctor, I have the unfortunate power to declare a patient dead. In this case, the doctor is in, and I declare Crossroads Mall dead! Stop life support. Stop CPR. Crossroads has DNR/DNI orders in the chart.

[PennyQuilts]

Explain those last two dreams for me.

Well, I have a lot of dreams "come true." It runs in my family. And I believe in the "sight." But what you are doing and how you are handling it strikes me as calling out for a medication evaluation. No offense. I'm being dead serious. When these fashes start causing you to restructure your life based on an attempt at interpretation, which may more may not be correct, that is not the "sight." That is something else. My opinion, anyway.

[megax11]

Well I don't let my visions run me...

I simply tell my fiancee to make sure Jillian is always inside the house when my fiancee goes to her parent's house.

I look at it as I could've potentially found a way to save Jillian's life.

As for the mall dreams... I haven't had that mall on my mind recently, as much as I've had getting my first short movie completed. So I think someone will come along, and fix the place up.

[SoonerDave]

Just a few tidbits between dream interpretations..

Sears *was* recruited to take over the Wards space at Crossroads. The problem was that Wards *owned* the space they occupied, which then became entangled in the bankruptcy proceeding that dissolved Wards.

By the time Crossroads management got through the legal entanglements, Sears was having (more) troubles, and was no longer interested even though they did not want to stick around that increasingly unfavorable 44th street location.

Now, both are stuck.

I've mentioned this before, but I've heard rumors for years that the *early* years of Crossroads management were entangled in warring factions among the owners which had less to do with Crossroads itself than the war of between the owners. Years of neglect finally took their toll.

[atlanta159]

For those that think gangs roam the halls of Crossroad's Mall, nothing could be further from the truth. I was there all day today and if there was to be any kind of "rumble", it would have to be between the gang members who use canes and those who use walkers.

I just don't buy that Crossroad's is any less safe than any other mall in OKC. If it was, would the elderly choose to come there for their walking exercise? Would young parents bring their little children there to ride the wonderful carousel and use the indoor playground? I don't think so.

Come check out Crossroad's, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Ray

[metro]

Atlanta, again its the PERCEPTION the mall gives, not necessarily the actual crime stats. As others have stated, the mall is severely outdated, poorly lit, parking lot crumbling, no major tenants, it's just a weird vibe. To most American's PERCEPTION IS REALITY, nobody actually surfs the web tracking crime stats before they decide to go shop at a mall. Crossroads Management has done a poor job at cleaning up the place or changing the perception, that is why it is a dead mall.

http://www.deadmalls.com/malls/crossroads_mall_ok.html

[zcamaro70]

There is a store that is widely known to only sell clothing and other items to people that claim to be in a gang. The shooting that happened at the mall was outside of this store. If you think there are no gang members shopping at Crossroads then you are fooling yourself. Where else are they going to buy their shirts with "13" on them? It is a dead mall, let it go.

[OKCisOK4me]

Two words: Bannister Mall

[okyeah]

There is a store that is widely known to only sell clothing and other items to people that claim to be in a gang. The shooting that happened at the mall was outside of this store. If you think there are no gang members shopping at Crossroads then you are fooling yourself. Where else are they going to buy their shirts with "13" on them? It is a dead mall, let it go.

I thought it was in/outside of JCPenney's.......I know they've moved, but back when it happened they were still there. So, what is the name of the store you are speaking of?? I think all you're going off on is speculation.

Here is the link to the story. If you read it, you will see that the shooting happened near the entrance of a department store (JCPenney's)...

[trousers]

I thought it was in/outside of JCPenney's.......I know they've moved, but back when it happened they were still there. So, what is the name of the store you are speaking of?? I think all you're going off on is speculation.

Here is the link to the story. If you read it, you will see that the shooting happened near the entrance of a department store (JCPenney's)...

I cant remember the name of the store either, buts its pretty much a gang clothing store. There are a couple around town, another one is on Penn just south of SW29th.

[Matt]

New proposal:

Crossroads Mall: The World's Greatest Indoor Paintball Facility.

It wouldn't get any awesomer than this, folks.

[Luke]

How much is the mall worth? Anyone know? Like if I wanted to buy it?

[Thunder]

How much is the mall worth? Anyone know? Like if I wanted to buy it?

Plan to convert the mall into an OKCTalk headquarter?

[atlanta159]

Here is the link to the story. If you read it, you will see that the shooting happened near the entrance of a department store (JCPenney's)...

You'll also see that you are all dredging up OLD news!!! 3 years ago, in fact. Let me ask all of you "this mall is dead" people this, if someone walked into your church tomorrow morning and killed someone sitting in a pew, would you never set foot in that church again? If so, you're letting the bad guys win.

I'm not into that.

But then, I would have taken a plane trip on 9-12 and I bought stocks as soon as the market opened back up after 9-11 as well. I'm just not willing to get scared off by something so minor. Things happen but I don't let fear run the way I do things.

But, if you are too chicken to shop in a certain mall because of old news and if you are unwilling to invest in America because the terrorists don't want you to and you're afraid to go on vacation because years ago planes were used as weapons....well, then I feel sorry for you that you are so timid that you let others control your life for you.

Me, I'm not into that either!

Ray

[megax11]

I think it's the shopping experience. I went there Saturday, and didn't even know that Spencer's was still there.

The mall has so much potential, and all the tenants have TOLD me, that they begged the owners to lower the rent. The owners didn't oblige. They said, "well at least make the mall look modern." The mall owners didn't oblige.

To them, money was all that mattered. Not their tenants. That is what I believe, hurt the mall.

I mean heck, the mall has the very same cracked floors, as it did in the 90's, 80's, and back when they were new in 1974. The mall looks dated, and if they want business back, like the guy in Spencer's told me Saturday, they need to beef the place up. Make it look new.

Until that happens, you're going to have a hard time attracting new businesses. Look at Heritage. No new updates to the mall in terms of look, and it dies. Heck even Sooner Fasion has kept up with the times, and look how much that mall has sprouted.

Penn and Quail look so nice, have dedicated food courts, and theatres inside the mall, that one can't help but shop there.

I have so many memories of the mall, I don't want to see it die. However, greed is what is causing this mall to lose its base with the tenants. The NEW owners, need to put the spark back in. The mall can't do it, itself.

[metro]

How much is the mall worth? Anyone know? Like if I wanted to buy it?

I think the minimum bid was $12 million at the auction and no one even came close to that. Seems like the article was posted somewhere on this site, but I don't feel like searching for it.

[Patrick]

I think they should just level the place, concrete over it, and pretend it never existed. Same thing with Heritage Park Mall.

[Soonerman]

I think it's the shopping experience. I went there Saturday, and didn't even know that Spencer's was still there.

The mall has so much potential, and all the tenants have TOLD me, that they begged the owners to lower the rent. The owners didn't oblige. They said, "well at least make the mall look modern." The mall owners didn't oblige.

To them, money was all that mattered. Not their tenants. That is what I believe, hurt the mall.

I mean heck, the mall has the very same cracked floors, as it did in the 90's, 80's, and back when they were new in 1974. The mall looks dated, and if they want business back, like the guy in Spencer's told me Saturday, they need to beef the place up. Make it look new.

Until that happens, you're going to have a hard time attracting new businesses. Look at Heritage. No new updates to the mall in terms of look, and it dies. Heck even Sooner Fasion has kept up with the times, and look how much that mall has sprouted.

Penn and Quail look so nice, have dedicated food courts, and theatres inside the mall, that one can't help but shop there.

I have so many memories of the mall, I don't want to see it die. However, greed is what is causing this mall to lose its base with the tenants. The NEW owners, need to put the spark back in. The mall can't do it, itself.

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[zcamaro70]

Okyeah: I do not know what the media said, I never go off of that. I know what I saw in the video of the shooting. The shooting at Crossroads was in front of the "gang" clothing store from the video I watched. JC Penny or another store could have been nearby but I dont know.

Atlanta159: Your scenario does not fit completely, you left out a variable. Would you still let his "friends" that came to church with guns still in church after a shooting? Do not forget there are several different sets of "friends" that do not get along that have guns.

[Soonerman]

I was in there yesturday and looks like Twids Sporting Goods I think thats the name is having a Rawlings sale in the old Montgomery Ward/Steve & Barry's space in the upper level and Kool Stuff has closed it's doors.

[atlanta159]

Okyeah: I do not know what the media said, I never go off of that. I know what I saw in the video of the shooting. The shooting at Crossroads was in front of the "gang" clothing store from the video I watched. JC Penny or another store could have been nearby but I dont know.

Atlanta159: Your scenario does not fit completely, you left out a variable. Would you still let his "friends" that came to church with guns still in church after a shooting? Do not forget there are several different sets of "friends" that do not get along that have guns.

So, you are scared of what you saw in a 3 year old video? Geez!

How long since you were in Crossroad's when you saw these gun totin' "friends"? How about never? So go shop at Quail Springs and Penn Square where they have metal detectors on every entrance.

What, they don't have metal detectors? Well, then I guess you can't go there OR to church either for that matter.

Pity to live one's life so afraid of shadows and things that go bump in the night.

[zcamaro70]

Atlanta159: I give you an answer you dont like so you retreat to......uh your just scared. I have no problem going to Crossroads if there was anything there to see, shop or do. I am only pointing out why numerous people will not shop there.

The mall is almost dead and will be shortly. You can keep telling everyone how great, safe and gang free Crossroads is but there is no stopping the eventual closing. In retail perception is everything. The perception of Crossroads is a gang infested haven with no major retail shops. I havent checked lately but does it have a major anchor to attract foot traffic? You remind me of the former Iraqi information minister. "There is no gang problem. There are lots of great anchor type places to shop." I bet I keep hearing that from you on this forum as the wrecking ball is smashing through it.

[Soonerman]

Nope no major anchors It's pretty sad when Crossroads mall highway sign has the list for anchors and it says:


Waldenbooks
Bath & Body Works
Pac Sun
AMC*

* Not even in the mall.


Now what does Crossroads have that I can't get at Quail Springs or Penn Square?


Answer Nothing anymore.

[atlanta159]

I havent checked lately but....

Just the knowlegable person we need advising people about what's happening currently at Crossroad's.............................
NOT!!!

Why don't you try being an expert on something you actually know something about?




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