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    Any one noticed we have abundance of panhandlers lately?
    We have always had them to a certain degree but lately I see them on every street corner.

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    I think they must be the wall street crowd arriving at long last. They must have heard it was cheaper to be broke here. Don't give them any money,it encourages them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourthworldtraffic View Post
    Don't give them any money; it encourages them.
    Bingo!

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    I have a habit of taking photos of odd things I see.

    Some of my favorites are of panhandlers.

    Here's one I thought was being creative...

    Brian Bates's Photos | Facebook


    Or, this guy...

    Brian Bates's Photos | Facebook

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    OMG - I'm not sure, but that second guy looks like my brother!

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    Here's a guy taking a break after a hard days "work". I think he's checking his stock portfolio.

    Things that Matter Blog Archive Homeless Man Goes Online

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    Quote Originally Posted by GWB View Post
    Here's a guy taking a break after a hard days "work". I think he's checking his stock portfolio.

    Things that Matter Blog Archive Homeless Man Goes Online
    Good on GWB!

    I have seen them as young as 20 I guess every one is jumping on the bandwagon

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    I always thought it was ironic that the two posessions homeless people never are short on are 1)cardboard and 2)permanent markers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bristolscene View Post
    I always thought it was ironic that the two posessions homeless people never are short on are 1)cardboard and 2)permanent markers.
    "From my cold dead hands before I give up my Sharpie."

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    Of course by now, everyone knows that the "WILL WORK FOR FOOD" signs were pioneered right here in Oklahoma at my old school - Panhandle A & M.

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    People should not be giving them money. The city need an action plan to round up these people, put them in shared homes, some sort of plans to get their life back together.

    The people that really need the money are those that work at minimum wage at places such as resturants and grocery stores. Most of the people don't get a raise for a very long time and they rely on tips to make ends meet. I know that I do and I'm very thankful and graceful for those that tipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    The city need an action plan to round up these people, put them in shared homes, some sort of plans to get their life back together.
    The Homeless Alliance has the "Real Change Not Spare Change" program. You can buy little booklets of "real change" vouchers to give to those in need instead of money. They are bus vouchers that are only valid to go to shelters and homeless services.

    http://www.homelessalliance.org/realchange.htm

    However, sometimes if I'm downtown and I don't have any vouchers on me, I'll give them a buck. I know I won't spend it any wiser than they will. Better to err on the side of generosity, I think.

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    I'm tallking about serious plans. I want the city to actively go out there, round up these people on buses and put them somewhere to get their life back on track.

    I've seen a story about this on the news last year, these kind of people are making thousands each month!!! I wouldn't be surprised if they're living in a nearby hotel. To them, they think this is easy money to just stand/sit looking like a bum, rake in all that money, then go to their luxurious home every night.

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    I want the city to actively go out there, round up these people on buses and put them somewhere to get their life back on track.
    What country do you think you are living in?

    And when the bus stops at this "life back on track" mecca and they decide to start walking right back to where they came from - what then? Shoot them on sight?

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    Sadly, some of these folks are soldiers/veterans who, for whatever reason, have been unable to find a job or get their life together after being discharged after serving their country.

    It is a disgrace that we (as a country) treat our servicemen and women in this manner. The phenomonen is not age-related, either - we have Vietnam, Gulf War I and Iraq/Afghanistan veterans surviving on the street.

    The solution? Bailjumper is correct - we cannot round them up and take them somewhere - extreme rendition is not an option. Funding VA, government partnering with non-profits, volunteers from active duty units - all methods can help get these guys (and women) back on their feet and off the street.
    In the meantime - buy them a sandwich or a cup of coffee. If they are engaging in criminal behavior - call the police.

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    There is a panhandler near where my husband works. He has been there for at least ten years and he also has a place a few metro stops away where he goes during the lunch hour. The guy has a band and a big screen tv and takes "vacations." A bum on vacation! Husband has heard him talking about it to his buddies. The bum started showing up in a wheelchair by his office, last week, but husband saw him at his lunch gig fit as a fiddle. He is just an operator. But it is working for him.

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    The majority of panhandlers are not homeless. Most have a place to live, own or have access to a vehicle and have plenty to eat. Constitutional Law has created a loop hole that allows the people to do what they do.

    This problem could very easily be eliminated by requiring police to report to the IRS on anyone who has been sighted for panhandling on multiple occasions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneforone View Post
    The majority of panhandlers are not homeless. Most have a place to live, own or have access to a vehicle and have plenty to eat. Constitutional Law has created a loop hole that allows the people to do what they do.

    This problem could very easily be eliminated by requiring police to report to the IRS on anyone who has been sighted for panhandling on multiple occasions.
    I can speak from first hand experience and say without hesitation.......The IRS is not going to send agents out to audit these people, talk about a public relations nightmare. Besides, that isn't a wise allocation of resources. I can assure you that there are enough people making hundreds of thousands of dollars in OKC that need much more attention from the IRS.

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    Doesn't OKC require and charge for a "Panhandling" permit?

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    Yeah, a permit is required. Why don't we all start asking to see their permit. If they can't show, then drive away and pull over somewhere to call the police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyB View Post
    Any one noticed we have abundance of panhandlers lately?
    We have always had them to a certain degree but lately I see them on every street corner.
    It would be interesting to see where panhandlers go to spend their money since I wonder how often it is to spend it on beer or other alcoholic drink.

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    Neglected veterans, the mentally ill (many schizophrenics), there are lots of reasons many of those people are on the streets. Some here seem to buy into the belief that the majority make lots of money and they're doing this because it's somehow easy. Just look at those people, they need help. European cities are light years ahead of us in dealing with the mentally ill who have nowhere to turn.

    On several occasions I have bought lunch for some of these people. Instead of giving them money, I'll pull through McDonald's or something and hand them a sack of burgers, fries and a drink. I've had some of these people CRY. Nobody cares about them, as many posts here show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeOKC View Post
    Neglected veterans, the mentally ill (many schizophrenics), there are lots of reasons many of those people are on the streets. Some here seem to buy into the belief that the majority make lots of money and they're doing this because it's somehow easy. Just look at those people, they need help. European cities are light years ahead of us in dealing with the mentally ill who have nowhere to turn.

    On several occasions I have bought lunch for some of these people. Instead of giving them money, I'll pull through McDonald's or something and hand them a sack of burgers, fries and a drink. I've had some of these people CRY. Nobody cares about them, as many posts here show.
    You're right, nobody cares about these people the way you do. Too bad the rest of us aren't as compassionate and giving as you. The world would be a better place. If only we were more like Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunty View Post
    It would be interesting to see where panhandlers go to spend their money since I wonder how often it is to spend it on beer or other alcoholic drink.
    I'm sure the vast majority of them do I have been trying to find statistics online on how much the average panhandlers makes a day so far most are saying between 150 a day to 300 or more.
    Obviously the more liberal the area is the more they make.
    Does any one know of a reliable source to go by?

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    The clientele that I deal with who are so messed up that they can't hold a job would not be able to beg, either. Getting to the begging place and frequently standing out there for hours is simply not possible for them. To do that for more than a few days at a time is not something I see any of them being capable of doing. We all know about the mentally ill who wander the streets pushing their shopping carts - poor souls. Those aren't the ones standing on the corner with a sign. Their thoughts are so disorganized that they simply couldn't do it.

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