Crossroads Mall

[jbrown84]

I even hear thatglamour shots left the mall, and hallmark and some shoe stores, so whats left in the mall?

Hallmark is still there. So is

American Eagle
Pac Sun
Spencer's
Victoria's Secret
Fredrick's of Hollywood
Chick-fil-a
Finish Line
Laughing Fish
Sonic
Avenue

[soonerfever]

Isn't Dillards best in a shopping mall? I have not seen a stand alone Dillards anywhere. There is a stand alone PC Penney in MWC, but it is a part of the outdoor mall across TAFB. Dillards will only survive along side with other stores to get the traffic.

Dillards has a stand alone store in Rogers Arkansas in the Pinnacle Hills Promenade. The area is an open air mall but the anchors of JC Penny and Dillards are completely stand alone.

The wife and I were at Steve & Barrys last night looking around. I walked out into the mall and I just kind of had this erie feeling. It was about 7:00 and the mall seemed deserted. S&B was pretty busy but as you looked through out the mall it was pretty dead.

[mmonroe]

I was there a few summers ago and witnessed the shooting of the 15 year old kid in the head, it was crazy. I've never seen so many scared people in my life. It was deff an eye opener.

Do people in Oklahoma just not like to shop? Retail in the metro just seems like it's been on the decline lately.

How do we fix that?

[Thunder]

Lower the oil and gas prices.

[Jesseda]

thre use to be two hallmarks, and a the laughing fish is kinda of a joke for a mall, that store should be somewhere in a shopping center..

[Jesseda]

drove on the north side of crossroads this past weekend to go to toysrus.. The mall looked likea ghost town, it looks kindasay driving around the mall and the only like of th mall is where the main entrance is, it is sad to see something that could have been great!!!

[flintysooner]

The problem for tenants with the big enclosed malls is the charge for heating and cooling the mall and for maintaining the mall part of the building.

As a tenant you might get a reasonable lease rate for the space in the mall. But the mall operator also has to recover the cost of heating, cooling, and maintaining that enormous mall space. The tenants all end up paying their share of that amount.

When the mall was new and electricity and natural gas were inexpensive the charge was minor. But now electricity and natural gas are much more expensive and very likely headed higher. The mall is much older and there is much more maintenance that is and will be required. So for tenants the mall charges can be more than the lease payments.

The mall retailer is hard pressed now to sell products at a premium over a non-mall store because the customer simply will not pay a premium.

On top of that many customers view the experience of shopping at a mall to be uninviting at best and dangerous at worst.

[sgt. pepper]

look at quail springs and its surrondings, look at penn square and its surrondings...no look at crossroads and it's surrondings. the difference is night and day. crossroads has a +A location for a mall, but the depolarization of the area is killing the place, low income housing, vacant buildings, trashy eyesores, high crime. people (as they should) stays away from that place. the last time i was there it looked like a mexican flea market. nothing wrong with that, but not for a prime mall. if crossroads wants to stay open, the mall itself needs more than a facelift, the whole area needs refurbished.

the intersection at I-35 & I-240 is getting re-done with fly overs and stuff. i will be dead of old age before it gets done, but it's comming.

i grew up down the road from crossroads, it's a shame to see it closing. i have some good memories of that place.

[mmonroe]

Dillards has a stand alone store in Rogers Arkansas in the Pinnacle Hills Promenade. The area is an open air mall but the anchors of JC Penny and Dillards are completely stand alone.

I just got back from Rogers, Arkansas for the LPGA. I did go shopping at the Pinnacle Hills Promenade and it is nice. That area is anchored by a stand alone Dilliards, JC Penny's, and Malco Theater. The shopping was nice, the streets were nice, the fountains were nice, the music from the speakers hidden in bushes were nice.. i've got pictures of the place, i'll have to update later with them.

[flintysooner]

I read where Dillards is closing its Valley View Mall location in Dallas at Preston and LBJ. Valley View opened about the same time as Crossroads. It lost Macy's a while back.

[traxx]

I expected this would happen, I just dont understand why crossroads will not look into the outlet mall type, it could bea big thing, changing itfrom a regular mall to a outlet mall, I would much rather shop in a outlet mall for bargains

The thing is, outlet malls are not really the good deals they were 10 or 15 years ago. I think someone earlier said they had about the same prices as regular stores and less service, I'll concur with that. Plus the outlet mall trend was hot about 10 or so years ago and seems to be passing or has passed.

[sgt. pepper]

i hope not because we will be getting one on the west side along I-40.

[edcrunk]

I read where Dillards is closing its Valley View Mall location in Dallas at Preston and LBJ. Valley View opened about the same time as Crossroads. It lost Macy's a while back.

the clientelle is pretty similar between the two malls. valley view did receive a decent makeover recently and an AMC Theater was added... but they are only half a mile from the GALLERIA. also all the apartments behind valley view all the way to beltline are becoming ghetto.
i remember in the 80's when prestonwood was also open (motfort & beltline) was also open and there was three malls within a mile of each other.

[bdub02]

I believe Dillard's has or is in the process of downsizing its Crossroads store to just the lower level. In addition, Steve and Barry's announced bankruptcy today. The end is near. A few years ago, the mall could have been saved if the necessary steps were taken, but now there is no hope. Sad considering how hoppin' the place was in the '90s. It was my preferred mall back then.

[soonerfever]

Dillards has a stand alone store in Rogers Arkansas in the Pinnacle Hills Promenade. The area is an open air mall but the anchors of JC Penny and Dillards are completely stand alone.

I just got back from Rogers, Arkansas for the LPGA. I did go shopping at the Pinnacle Hills Promenade and it is nice. That area is anchored by a stand alone Dilliards, JC Penny's, and Malco Theater. The shopping was nice, the streets were nice, the fountains were nice, the music from the speakers hidden in bushes were nice.. i've got pictures of the place, i'll have to update later with them.

Pinnacle Hills is an extremely nice place, especially for Northwest Arkansas. Of course what do you expect being the home of Wal-Mart. I just hope University North Park ends up half as nice a Pinnacle Hills.

[Architect2010]

Retail sales are in decline all over the country. No one wants to drive far away to a mall anymore. Especially for us southsiders that have to travel all the way to Moore or all the way to Penn Square. Its ridiculous.

Penn Square is definitely not declining. That mall is always full of people. Its a very respectable mall and I see it staying that way. Quail Springs is also very nice. Almost like Penn Square, same glass barriers and flooring. Nice setup and comparable selection of stores to Penn Square. Only problem is that Quail Springs attracts hoodlums ALONG with rich upper-class people. They probably just go to catch the movie though. I see Quail Springs staying awhile too, especially with that huge new development north of it which will make Quail Springs a retail mecca for the north side. It'll basically be an outdoor mall connected to an indoor mall.

Crossroads...ehhh. They still have Hot Topic, American Eagle, Pac Sun, Champs, Finishline, Journeys, Footlockers, Spencers, Victoria's Secret, Fredrick's of Hollywood, Chick-fil-a, Sonic, Gamespot, WaldenBooks, and Taco Mayo. I think it'll hold out for a little longer.

[MonkeesFan]

How is Sooner mall in Norman doing? I thought it would be shut down first, I guess because it only has 1 floor and not alot of good stores inside

[OUman]

^I dunno how it's doing but I'd assume it's doing very well. Sooner Mall always has people, but I'd estimate about half the clientele is teens these days especially when all the "teen stores" started showing up back in the early 2000s (Gap, American Eagle, Abercrombie and Fitch and others). The main parking lots are about 80% full year-round during shopping hours and during the main shopping days (after Thanksgiving and before Christmas, before Valentine's day etc) the mall is always full. Even then, it's a pretty busy mall, the main magnets are the El Chico restaurant and the teen stores, which is why most of the time you see the young crowd and the teens hanging out there, especially during the holiday season and the summer months. Too bad Service Merchandise was taken out a while back, I got my first train set there and it was a quality store. Personally I don't care much for the types of stores there these days, save a few like Dillards and Sears.

[MonkeesFan]

^I dunno how it's doing but I'd assume it's doing very well. Sooner Mall always has people, but I'd estimate about half the clientele is teens these days especially when all the "teen stores" started showing up back in the early 2000s (Gap, American Eagle, Abercrombie and Fitch and others). The main parking lots are about 80% full year-round during shopping hours and during the main shopping days (after Thanksgiving and before Christmas, before Valentine's day etc) the mall is always full. Even then, it's a pretty busy mall, the main magnets are the El Chico restaurant and the teen stores, which is why most of the time you see the young crowd and the teens hanging out there, especially during the holiday season and the summer months. Too bad Service Merchandise was taken out a while back, I got my first train set there and it was a quality store. Personally I don't care much for the types of stores there these days, save a few like Dillards and Sears.

I guess Sooner Mall will be staying for a very long time

[Thunder]

Service Merchandise was taken out a while back? Last I remembered, they went out of business years and years ago. Is there still one around?

[bdub02]

Crossroads...ehhh. They still have Hot Topic, American Eagle, Pac Sun, Champs, Finishline, Journeys, Footlockers, Spencers, Victoria's Secret, Fredrick's of Hollywood, Chick-fil-a, Sonic, Gamespot, WaldenBooks, and Taco Mayo. I think it'll hold out for a little longer.

Without any anchors, these stores won't last long at all. Dillard's scaling down to one floor is NOT a good sign. Expect to see it closed during the next round of Dillard's closings. I say by the end of 2009, the mall will be history, and that is a liberal estimate.

[Architect2010]

Yes. Notice that I said that I think it will last a LITTLE longer. I know that these stores aren't enough to hold the mall alone. Saddening, but oh well.

And SoonerFashion Mall is one of the places I was talking about that I have to drive to now. It has a decent selection of stores. pssshft. With all of those stores catering to the young, and wealthy teens of South OKC, Moore, and Norman, it'll do good for a long time I suspect. And with the closing of Crossroads, expect some traffic being directed towards SoonerFashion.

[jbrown84]

I work there every now and then and tonight there were probably 50 buckets scattered about the center court catching leaks from the rain.

[venture]

When is the last time it was actually called Sooner Fashion? 10 years ago?

[mmonroe]

How about shawnee mall...??