It's too late really. Upgrades would be a waste at this point because it's only a matter of time.
It's too late really. Upgrades would be a waste at this point because it's only a matter of time.
They would probably get more people there too if people stopped getting shot, and robbed in the parking lot.
government retrofit perhaps, but that seems a slim tail for a large donkey
Its going to be very odd to have prime property to just sit there, I wonder what could replace crossroads, I mean it has so much land, land for a new arena for a nfl football team (hey we are now a national city so it isnt really far fetched)
Jesseda - I've been trying to get that moving with Heritage Park. Heritage is physically in much better conidition and in a much better part of town. It's not as accessibile, but outlet malls attract from far.
I know I would love a outlet , I know we are getting a outlet in west okc area but we can always have more than one..
I highly doubt we can support more than one outlet mall.
The city or federal government will probably purchase Crossroads Mall and turn it into the fabled "I-240 & I-35 loop." God knows we need it!
I hate to see this happen if i had the money I would go in and buy the mall and run out all the shady tenants and then restore the mall to the way it was in the 70's with the drop down ceilings and lights and everything put back in the walkway and fountain and try and get good anchors and tenants to move into it, I would make it a place where the rif raf croud would not want to hang out at.
TOD!, TOD!, TOD!
or even something like this: Belmar
the only reason i go to crossroads anymore is to eat at garfields, I haven't liked shopping there for at least 5 years or longer. Steve & Barry's is a decent cheap clothing store though, so we would usually swing in there as we were leaving.
Hate to tell you this, but Garfields is gone from both Crossroads and Quail Springs.
Don't see Crossroads as an outlet mall, but then, the last time I went to an outlet mall it dinna seem much different than regular mall prices, just less service.
I'm sure keeping the Post Rd. (or whatever street's exit) the big fuss was about doesn't really matter at this point...
I really with the city would annex Valley Brook, use some eminent domain and clean that whole area up. That accompanied with the demolishing of Crossroads could lead to a rebirth of the area. While the demographics are severely lacking north of I-240, there has been significant growth to the east and southwest of the intersection there. The whole area is just completely outdated and depressive.
I can't believe Dillard's hasn't bailed yet. Guess they've still got some time left on their lease.
The entire area surrounding the mall is very depressed and I think they're going to have a tough time figuring out something constructive to do with the building. (Valley Brook to the north, a landfill to your east, an electric company on your southern border and a bad neighborhood on the west?) How are they going to make that work?
Eh trust me...if Dillards wanted to bail from that place they would and just pay the lease rates. They have property at a mall in Ohio that they own (roughly half the mall)...and they pulled their store out of there a couple years ago. Mall officially shut down this past month and the entire thing will be torn down. The size of the mall is pretty close to Crossroads, a little bit smaller though. They are turning it into a small scale mixed use area - residential/retail/office space with a very small lifestyle center like center.
Last year I moved, so I am closer to sooner fashion mall then crossroads, Last time I was in crossroads it seemed really sad walking a long stretch of closed stores, just 10 years ago it was packed and was the place to hang out or shop (not so ghetto kids haned out there back then). Sooner is nice but small, I want to see howthe lifestyle center turns out in norman, I would rather havea open air mall but the trend hasnt hit here yet i guess and the weather might play a part in it as well..
I have the reason Dillards hasn't left is because they actually own their portion of the building.
Yeah Dillards owns there own in crossroads, thats why the building different from the rest on the old anchor stores.. I really wish crossroads would do a mass renovation or something, change the color or change its image all around, I dont like going to a mall and seeing a lot of blah imported chain stores.... I even hear thatglamour shots left the mall, and hallmark and some shoe stores, so whats left in the mall?
Eh like I said...if Dillard's owns part of it - that doesn't matter. The mall in Ohio, they owned half that mall and still shut their store down 2-3 years before the mall every closed. They'll be gone as soon as they find a way to serve that portion of town, but not sure if they'll join the rest at the shops there in Moore.
Isn't Dillards best in a shopping mall? I have not seen a stand alone Dillards anywhere. There is a stand alone PC Penney in MWC, but it is a part of the outdoor mall across TAFB. Dillards will only survive along side with other stores to get the traffic.
It depends. Dillards has several stand alone stores in the nation. You could argue the same about JC Penny being stand alone. The Moore location is a big symbol of that.
I worked at the JCPenney's in Moore. There is a draw back to being in a stand alone or shopping center. JCP saw more traffic inside Crossroads because people would walk through the store on the way through the mall. Now people come into Penney's because they strictly want to look there. I don't think it's a huge factor in their sales. It helps to be in an area where you feel safe and the store looks clean.
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