NBA in OKC Today.

[CuatrodeMayo]

I'd hit it.

If I was 40.

[CCOKC]

Speaking as a 41 year old woman, I hope you meant that in a good way.

[Doug Loudenback]

From the vantage point of a cool 64 year old guy, ALL 41 year old women are inherently desirable. Or, is that what you meant?

[andy157]

andy, I just think he means overall politically Keating carries a much greater weight than Henry. Most people don't know who Henry is nationwide. They do with Keating. Keating is a regular contributor to FOX News, CNN, etc.

Maybe, maybe not. If Keating is going to be given credit for the passage of MAPS during his term, should Henry be given credit for landing an NBA team during his?

[metro]

andy, myself nor anyone else gave "credit" to Keating for "MAPS". We're just talking about who has more national political clout and despite the blunder Keating made, he does have more national clout and recognition and that has been clearly evident in the national media.

[John]

Fact: Frank Keating has much more political/business 'cred' than Henry has or ever will have.

metro has hit the other points, good job.

[bornhere]

And maybe he can get the team a great deal on Dilantin.

[andy157]

andy, myself nor anyone else gave "credit" to Keating for "MAPS". We're just talking about who has more national political clout and despite the blunder Keating made, he does have more national clout and recognition and that has been clearly evident in the national media.

Post #21 IMO sure seems to imply that he be given credit for MAPS. That was my point.

[MikeLucky]

Post #21 IMO sure seems to imply that he be given credit for MAPS. That was my point.

read it again... It's quite a leap you are making..... I said "he was governor during MAPS" and that it doesn't hurt to have as many influential Okies there as possible.... Not once did I say he should be given credit for MAPS or even imply that. The fact is he WAS the governor during MAPS so it isn't completely ridiculous to have him involved with this endeavor.....

[andy157]

read it again... It's quite a leap you are making..... I said "he was governor during MAPS" and that it doesn't hurt to have as many influential Okies there as possible.... Not once did I say he should be given credit for MAPS or even imply that. The fact is he WAS the governor during MAPS so it isn't completely ridiculous to have him involved with this endeavor.....

I read it. You said; "well Keating was the Governor during MAPS, WAS HE NOT? " You read mine. I said it is IN MY OPINION that you SEEM to imply that he be given credit for MAPS. And it still is. You brought MAPS into this issue not me. You must have had some reason for linking Keating to MAPS.

[MikeLucky]

I read it. You said; "well Keating was the Governor during MAPS, WAS HE NOT? " You read mine. I said it is IN MY OPINION that you SEEM to imply that he be given credit for MAPS. And it still is. You brought MAPS into this issue not me. You must have had some reason for linking Keating to MAPS.

Because the NBA coming to Oklahoma has a lot to do with MAPS. It's a simple connection. Keating was the governor during MAPS. As far as I'm concerned Toby Keith should have been there too since he has a restaurant and bar in Bricktown which has helped with the growth of the area. Does that mean he is responsible for MAPS? NO. It's the same leap you are taking, though.....

Why don't you go ahead and tell us why you have a problem with Keating..... you obviously are dying to. LOL

[andy157]

Because the NBA coming to Oklahoma has a lot to do with MAPS. It's a simple connection. Keating was the governor during MAPS. As far as I'm concerned Toby Keith should have been there too since he has a restaurant and bar in Bricktown which has helped with the growth of the area. Does that mean he is responsible for MAPS? NO. It's the same leap you are taking, though.....

Why don't you go ahead and tell us why you have a problem with Keating..... you obviously are dying to. LOL

MAPS did have a lot to do with the NBA coming to OKC. I agree. I think thats what you meant. Henry was to. Clinton was the President of the United States of America during MAPS. So what. If anyone deserves credit and should of been there, it should have been Ron Norick. Who's leaping to assumptions now? LOL

[metro]

Again andy157, the point is that Keating has political clout nationwide (not due to MAPS). He is STILL a frequent guest and contributor on a variety of news and political shows, CNN, FOX NEWS, etc. This is something you will never see Henry on unless he's asking for federal help due to an emergency situation. I'm not saying Henry is a bad governor by any means, the point was people nationwide know who Keating is (hence why he was at the NBA press conference). If it wasn't for Keating taking money for his kids college fund, he'd probably be the VP of the United States right now and not Cheney.

[MikeLucky]

MAPS did have a lot to do with the NBA coming to OKC. I agree. I think thats what you meant. Henry was to. Clinton was the President of the United States of America during MAPS. So what. If anyone deserves credit and should of been there, it should have been Ron Norick. Who's leaping to assumptions now? LOL

Dude, I never said, implied, insinuated, or even suggested that Keating was responsible for MAPS - period, end of story.

YOU made that leap and you obviously wanted to bash on Keating. Which is fine, but just do it already...... and quit saying I led you there...... You can't pin this one on me..... LOL

[jbrown84]

I'd take Keating over Cheney any day.

[bornhere]

If Keating had political clout, he'd be in the administration, not lined up with Bill Bennett, Karl Rove and a host of other integrity-challenged Republicans playing pundit on cable channels.

And when you said 'taking money for his kids' college fund,' are you sure you didn't mean, 'taking money for his kids' college fund and then browbeating the state corrections director to force-feed anti-seizure medication to prison inmates so he could collect more money for his kids' college fund'?

We're talking about a guy whose ethics were too sleazy for the Bush administration.

I'd say a more likely reason he was at that meeting was that someone among the partners brought him there as a political favor to boost his local profile. It wasn't as if Oklahomans were rending their garments and begging him to stay when he left for his DC lobbying job.

[andy157]

Dude, I never said, implied, insinuated, or even suggested that Keating was responsible for MAPS - period, end of story.

YOU made that leap and you obviously wanted to bash on Keating. Which is fine, but just do it already...... and quit saying I led you there...... You can't pin this one on me..... LOL

Dude if you say so. If, and/or when I feel the need to bash Keating then I'll start a thread for that purpose, and let you know.

[andy157]

I'd take Keating over Cheney any day.

One thing is for sure. He sure couldn't have been any worse. (WS that was a compliment)