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[Laramie]

[Laramie]

Miriam Adelson, are Mavs new owners wanting to more to Las Vegas?

[Jersey Boss]

Lakers trade for Williams voided due to failure of physical.
Hornets Issue Statement Following Nixed Mark Williams Trade to Lakers
https://www.si.com/nba/hornets-issue...rade-to-lakers

[Laramie]

Louisville just lost one of its treasured Fortune 500/1000 companies to Plano, TX.

Brand informed investors that it would move about 100 employees from its KFC brand headquarters in Louisville, Kentucky, to Plano, where the group's Pizza Hut chain is headquartered. The move will occur over the next six months, while the relocation of 90 remote positions will take place over the next 18 months.6 hours ago.

Yum! Brands consists of KFC, Taco Bell and Pizza Hut with more than 37,000 restaurants in over 117 countries and territories and more than 1 million associates. Yum! is ranked #214 on the Fortune 500 List and generated more than $13 billion in revenue in 2013.

IIRC, one of OKC's Fortune 500 companies moved to Plano more than a decade ago.

Do you think this is a potential set back to Louisville's expansion hopes?

[BoulderSooner]

Do you think this is a potential set back to Louisville's expansion hopes?

louisville had no expansion hopes

[Dob Hooligan]

louisville had no expansion hopes

I disagree.

More immediate-Victor Wembanyama shut down for the remainder of the season due to blood clots. Deep vein thrombosis in the right shoulder.

[BoulderSooner]

I disagree.

More immediate-Victor Wembanyama shut down for the remainder of the season due to blood clots. Deep vein thrombosis in the right shoulder.

seattle and vegas are getting the expansion teams that was decided a long time ago

[Laramie]

louisville had no expansion hopes

True Seattle & Las Vegas are the front runners.

Louisville has always been listed as a Top 5 expansion candidate:

1. Louisville https://sportsradioamerica.com/2024/...g%20contender.

3. Louisville https://www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-w...in-louisville/

4. Louisville https://overthelinesports.ca/f/top-t...sion-locations

This will IMO obviously have an adverse affect on Louisville's potential for NBA expansion/relocation. The KFC Yum Arena with 22k plus seats would be at the top of the list of NBA arenas.

[ManAboutTown]

I disagree.

More immediate-Victor Wembanyama shut down for the remainder of the season due to blood clots. Deep vein thrombosis in the right shoulder.

Sad to hear this about Wembanyama. They weren't much of a threat this year, but feel badly for the kid and his teammates and fans.

[Laramie]

Sad to hear this about Wembanyama. They weren't much of a threat this year, but feel badly for the kid and his teammates and fans.

Agree ManAboutTown.

This is the reason why Chet needs to put on some weight and pad his posterior. Put some collard greens, hog maws and sweet potatoes to his diet or contact the firms that
produced padded booties for Diana Ross and Nicki Minaj and see if they can retrofit something for Chet

[ManAboutTown]

Agree ManAboutTown.

This is the reason why Chet needs to put on some weight and pad his posterior. Put some collard greens, hog maws and sweet potatoes to his diet or contact the firms that
produced padded booties for Diana Ross and Nicki Minaj and see if they can retrofit something for Chet

[Dob Hooligan]

seattle and vegas are getting the expansion teams that was decided a long time ago

Let me suggest the same talking heads that say Las Vegas is getting a team, and no way Louisville could surpass them, are the same people who said there was no way the NBA would let the Sonics leave Seattle for dust bowl Oklahoma City.

Las Vegas has 2.3 million people in Clark County, 2.6 million within a 100 mile radius, and 2.8 million within 150 miles. An NFL team, NHL team, and a commitment for an MLB team.

Louisville has 1.8 million is Louisville/Jefferson counties, 5.5 million within a 100 mile radius, and 11.8 million within 150 miles. No "Big 4" teams.

[Laramie]

Let me suggest the same talking heads that say Las Vegas is getting a team, and no way Louisville could surpass them, are the same people who said there was no way the NBA would let the Sonics leave Seattle for dust bowl Oklahoma City.

Las Vegas has 2.3 million people in Clark County, 2.6 million within a 100 mile radius, and 2.8 million within 150 miles. An NFL team, NHL team, and a commitment for an MLB team.

Louisville has 1.8 million is Louisville/Jefferson counties, 5.5 million within a 100 mile radius, and 11.8 million within 150 miles. No "Big 4" teams.

Good stats, Dob

Las Vegas wants all four major leagues. At what point will LV bite off more than it can chew.

[Laramie]

ESPN NBA https://www.espn.in/nba/story/_/id/4...ti-drug-policy

[aDark]

Let me suggest the same talking heads that say Las Vegas is getting a team, and no way Louisville could surpass them, are the same people who said there was no way the NBA would let the Sonics leave Seattle for dust bowl Oklahoma City.

Las Vegas has 2.3 million people in Clark County, 2.6 million within a 100 mile radius, and 2.8 million within 150 miles. An NFL team, NHL team, and a commitment for an MLB team.

Louisville has 1.8 million is Louisville/Jefferson counties, 5.5 million within a 100 mile radius, and 11.8 million within 150 miles. No "Big 4" teams.

Dob, respectfully, if you're going to use the "population within ______ miles" analysis it would be disingenuous to do so without observing that the Louisville radiuses you used include both Cincinnati and Indianapolis - just 100 and 115 miles away, respectively. The populations "in radius" are grotesquely skewed by those metros, which already have major league sports teams. You've got fans in Louisville who likely vehemently support the Pacers and Colts, as well as the Reds and the Bengals. You certainly could expect your proposal of radiuses to be stymied by the populations living in or closer to Indianapolis/Cincinnati - those fans aren't going to abandon their teams to support a new NBA team in a town an hour and half away.

Las Vegas is comparable to OKC, insofar as there are *no* major league teams in cities less than 250+ miles (several hours drive) away. OKC and Vegas would have the effect of actually drawing in people in the outskirts of their radiuses, such as Tulsans, who would drive into their closest major league franchise for support.

Lastly, Las Vegas has 40 million visitors a year. These visitors come from all over the nation and stay for days, not just passing through on a major highway.

I'll make you an offer, I'll meet you at the midtown McNellies and buy you a pint(s) of your choice along with a cheeseburger if the next round of NBA team announcements doesn't include a Las Vegas team. Deal? We can talk sports and OKC, stuff too. It'll be fun. Your posts are always thoughtful and, regardless of who is right, it'll be a good time!

[FighttheGoodFight]

Not to mention the big elephant in the room with Vegas teams. People can gamble while they watch in a quasi Casino. NBA will be in Vegas and it is just a matter of time.

[BoulderSooner]

Dob, respectfully, if you're going to use the "population within ______ miles" analysis it would be disingenuous to do so without observing that the Louisville radiuses you used include both Cincinnati and Indianapolis - just 100 and 115 miles away, respectively. The populations "in radius" are grotesquely skewed by those metros, which already have major league sports teams. You've got fans in Louisville who likely vehemently support the Pacers and Colts, as well as the Reds and the Bengals. You certainly could expect your proposal of radiuses to be stymied by the populations living in or closer to Indianapolis/Cincinnati - those fans aren't going to abandon their teams to support a new NBA team in a town an hour and half away.

Las Vegas is comparable to OKC, insofar as there are *no* major league teams in cities less than 250+ miles (several hours drive) away. OKC and Vegas would have the effect of actually drawing in people in the outskirts of their radiuses, such as Tulsans, who would drive into their closest major league franchise for support.

Lastly, Las Vegas has 40 million visitors a year. These visitors come from all over the nation and stay for days, not just passing through on a major highway.

I'll make you an offer, I'll meet you at the midtown McNellies and buy you a pint(s) of your choice along with a cheeseburger if the next round of NBA team announcements doesn't include a Las Vegas team. Deal? We can talk sports and OKC, stuff too. It'll be fun. Your posts are always thoughtful and, regardless of who is right, it'll be a good time!

great post ..

i will add that it is not "talking heads" saying the NBA is expanding to vegas and seattle ... it is pretty much EVERYONE that covers the NBA ..

[Dob Hooligan]

Dob, respectfully, if you're going to use the "population within ______ miles" analysis it would be disingenuous to do so without observing that the Louisville radiuses you used include both Cincinnati and Indianapolis - just 100 and 115 miles away, respectively. The populations "in radius" are grotesquely skewed by those metros, which already have major league sports teams. You've got fans in Louisville who likely vehemently support the Pacers and Colts, as well as the Reds and the Bengals. You certainly could expect your proposal of radiuses to be stymied by the populations living in or closer to Indianapolis/Cincinnati - those fans aren't going to abandon their teams to support a new NBA team in a town an hour and half away.

Las Vegas is comparable to OKC, insofar as there are *no* major league teams in cities less than 250+ miles (several hours drive) away. OKC and Vegas would have the effect of actually drawing in people in the outskirts of their radiuses, such as Tulsans, who would drive into their closest major league franchise for support.

Lastly, Las Vegas has 40 million visitors a year. These visitors come from all over the nation and stay for days, not just passing through on a major highway.

I'll make you an offer, I'll meet you at the midtown McNellies and buy you a pint(s) of your choice along with a cheeseburger if the next round of NBA team announcements doesn't include a Las Vegas team. Deal? We can talk sports and OKC, stuff too. It'll be fun. Your posts are always thoughtful and, regardless of who is right, it'll be a good time!

First-I will take you up on the offer.

Second-I know Indianapolis is within the 150 mile radius of 11.9 million people. Cincinnati, Evansville and Lexington are within the 100 mile radius of 5.5 million (without the NBA).

I have been studying Las Vegas, it's business, sports and entertainment markets for over 20 years. 40 million people do visit every year, and there is incredible competition for their dollars. It isn't an endless fountain of money.

Las Vegas is pretty much an island in the desert. The SoCal population is the closest, at about 250 miles. Phoenix and Salt Lake City are 300. Las Vegas will have to draw NBA visitors at a higher rate than any other city in the league to make it work IMO.

[BoulderSooner]

Las Vegas will have to draw NBA visitors at a higher rate than any other city in the league to make it work IMO.

if it works or not in vegas is not the conversation ..

[Dob Hooligan]

if it works or not in vegas is not the conversation ..

Sure it is. NBA is a money making business. If Las Vegas can't support a team and they have to move that would be bad for the league and the owners.

I can't ever remember when a sports league expands without having more cities applying for a team than teams to award. Do you really think they would give a team to Las Vegas if another city paid more and had a better revenue plan?

[BoulderSooner]

Sure it is. NBA is a money making business. If Las Vegas can't support a team and they have to move that would be bad for the league and the owners.

I can't ever remember when a sports league expands without having more cities applying for a team than teams to award. Do you really think they would give a team to Las Vegas if another city paid more and had a better revenue plan?

vegas and seattle have been selected already ..

[aDark]

First-I will take you up on the offer.

Great! Hopefully we won't have to wait 4 years for that pint!

[OkieHornet]

vegas and seattle have been selected already ..

link?

[floyd the barber]

Louisville just lost one of its treasured Fortune 500/1000 companies to Plano, TX.

Brand informed investors that it would move about 100 employees from its KFC brand headquarters in Louisville, Kentucky, to Plano, where the group's Pizza Hut chain is headquartered. The move will occur over the next six months, while the relocation of 90 remote positions will take place over the next 18 months.6 hours ago.

Yum! Brands consists of KFC, Taco Bell and Pizza Hut with more than 37,000 restaurants in over 117 countries and territories and more than 1 million associates. Yum! is ranked #214 on the Fortune 500 List and generated more than $13 billion in revenue in 2013.

IIRC, one of OKC's Fortune 500 companies moved to Plano more than a decade ago.

Do you think this is a potential set back to Louisville's expansion hopes?

Very off topic, but this is a no brainer.

KFC is a fading brand. Quality has only gotten worse and competiton has stepped in. Free market baby!

[Rover]

vegas and seattle have been selected already ..

Assumed, but not selected or announced.