2025 Oklahoma City Aviation Thread

[Jeepnokc]

Hopefully they put a bigger plane on the MSP. The current flight uses an Embraer75 which is not the most comfortable plane (even in first) for a 2 hour flight. I usually avoid going through MSP for this reason.

[BG918]

Nice to see an increase in frequency out of OKC. I guess I'm surprised that Delta added frequency to MSP instead of restarting DTW. Not complaining,just an observation. Hopefully United follows with bringing back SFO,EWR and IAD

SFO is a good bet to be added back, likely with some kind of subsidy. I wouldn't expect to see the others anytime soon though - too much competition in those markets now and they can better serve OKC from their IAH, DEN and ORD hubs.

[bison34]

SFO is a good bet to be added back, likely with some kind of subsidy. I wouldn't expect to see the others anytime soon though - too much competition in those markets now and they can better serve OKC from their IAH, DEN and ORD hubs.

If OKC got another flight to the NYC area, I agree. But a lot of people go to EWR to avoid the NYC airports, and can easily train in to Manhattan.

[Jersey Boss]

if okc got another flight to the nyc area, i agree. But a lot of people go to ewr to avoid the nyc airports, and can easily train in to manhattan.

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[gopokes88]

January is out. Growth trend continues. https://flyokc.com/wp-content/upload...nplanement.pdf

American might surpass Southwest sometime this year.

[PhiAlpha]

If OKC got another flight to the NYC area, I agree. But a lot of people go to EWR to avoid the NYC airports, and can easily train in to Manhattan.

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[Jeepnokc]

If OKC got another flight to the NYC area, I agree. But a lot of people go to EWR to avoid the NYC airports, and can easily train in to Manhattan.

I think a lot also has to do with direct flights available. If you fly United...makes sense to fly into EWR. I fly Delta so I fly into LGA. No way am I going to do two flights and then spend all the time to get into Manhattan and then Uber from train station to hotel. LGA was just remodeled and is so much better and easier than it used to be. Has a great skyclub now also.

[PistolChad]

Many people like to blame airport officials, but the FACT is that the majority of the non-hub / non-"focus city" airports that lost direct flights in 2020 haven't gotten them all back. Oklahoma City is normal - not an anomaly.

ALL US-based airlines are SIGNIFICANTLY behind where they wanted to be in both pilots and aircraft. Airbus is behind. Boeing is WAY behind and can't seem to pull their head out. Every single source of training new pilots in the USA is already at max capacity. It is a time consuming process to get pilots trained in this country. It is also very difficult to bring in foreign pilots to fly domestically here for many reasons.

By the end of 2025 it appears all regional airlines will FINALLY have their entire fleets back operational. Only a small number of regional jet pilots that flew in 2020 are still flying regional jets. Most have gotten hired by mainline operators. They have taken the brunt of backfilling all the talent they lost. The ONLY reason they are FINALLY going to be able to recover this year IS BECAUSE Boeing can't produce jets fast enough. If Boeing suddenly started producing twice the number of jets per year, the regional airlines would get decimated again within a year and would have to rebuild all over again.

For OKC, if what you care about is MORE cities with direct flights, then those are going to be via regional jets to begin with. Fill those regional jets and then we'll get more flights per day and ultimately then we'll get mainline aircraft.