Pappadeaux

[BoulderSooner]

From a planning standpoint density generally refers to population density. This doesn’t positively impact that metric, and could potentially be a barrier to more dense development, especially to the north by interrupting the walk appeal from the north to the more dense and walkable city center.

Sure, placing a building on a site that is currently vacant improves the building density…on that lot. However if it is a suburban site plan proximate to more urban building density it actually REDUCES the overall average concentration of urban fabric, at the very least from the standpoint of potential. It’s an opportunity cost.

All of this said, I’m generally not “anti” this particular development. It’s a really good add to the urban core from an amenities standpoint, and I suspect it may be helping to unlock a more concentrated development to the south. So I still feel it may be a net positive. I just wish it was sited a bit differently. And yes, I do understand there are some compelling limiting factors.

thank you for the detailed explanation ..

[bamarsha]

I understand the relative positives. I was responding to the comment that this somehow magically improves density. It very specifically does NOT improve density in this area.

Also, I’m sorry, but you cannot make the case that this isn’t in the core of Oklahoma City. Is it in downtown proper? No, of course not. But the core of Oklahoma City extends beyond the central business district.

I'm pretty sure a thriving restaurant is more dense than land with a few homeless tents on it.

[Jake]

Don't Facebook my OKCTalk.

[Urbanized]

I'm pretty sure a thriving restaurant is more dense than land with a few homeless tents on it.

Perhaps next time you could say “better than crappy makes me happy.” It would be less offensive.

[crimsoncrazy]

Sounds like this has been canceled.

[Will Dearborn]

Now where are people going to park?

[citywokchinesefood]

Now where are people going to park?

Mazaheri has an illegal lot somewhere downtown for you to utilize.

[MagzOK]

Evan Onstot from KOCO posting on FB that Pappadeax has pulled their plans from OKC.

[Bowser214]

They also replied to Evan’s post saying they’re still planning on a OKC location.

[Pete]

[OklahomaNick]

They have abandoned plans in OKC before..
In fact they still own that pad site near the SE corner of Memorial & Portland/Hefner Pkwy.

https://docs.oklahomacounty.org/Asse...pertyID=251856

[therhett17]

They have abandoned plans in OKC before..
In fact they still own that pad site near the SE corner of Memorial & Portland/Hefner Pkwy.

https://docs.oklahomacounty.org/Asse...pertyID=251856

It's almost like they forget they own that site

[Pete]

They had that site for sale for a while, but pulled it from the market.

[okcrun]

Guess that confirms they pulled out of that site

[bamarsha]

They have abandoned plans in OKC before..
In fact they still own that pad site near the SE corner of Memorial & Portland/Hefner Pkwy.

https://docs.oklahomacounty.org/Asse...pertyID=251856

I am 100% against building anything around Memorial and Portland until JKT and LHP are properly connected (all the interchanges installed). Then build out whatever there is room for in the leftover area.

[Pete]

This is the property owned by Pappadeaux:

[Mballard85]

What a cluster this is, with the way they do things, I really am over it. Either come or don't, but I don't have high hopes either way.

[ManAboutTown]

Hopefully, the development on Broadway will be reverted to its original design.

[jn1780]

I doubt they ever build on the Memorial and Portland site. Doesn't feel like a very good spot. Maybe if they built when they originally bought the land they could have 'set the tone' for all those surrounding lots that were developed the past few years. Also, the plot seems a little on the small side. It would work, but seems like they wanted more on the Broadway site.

[OKCRealtor]

How many years has this been going on now? I can't believe people still fall for it with them.

[Pete]

I doubt they ever build on the Memorial and Portland site. Doesn't feel like a very good spot. Maybe if they built when they originally bought the land they could have 'set the tone' for all those surrounding lots that were developed the past few years. Also, the plot seems a little on the small side. It would work, but seems like they wanted more on the Broadway site.

The site is about the same as they proposed on Broadway.

They had already drawn up and submitted plans for that Memorial site before they ever purchased it.

[bamarsha]

Thanks Pete! That is probably out of the way then... I can't believe they haven't fixed that interchange yet, though.

[BoulderSooner]

Thanks Pete! That is probably out of the way then... I can't believe they haven't fixed that interchange yet, though.

fixed how?

[progressiveboy]

Hopefully, they either utilize their current land they own to build, or go to the Half Development! Always enjoyed Pappadeaux's when I lived in DFW! I really enjoyed Pappasito's too!

[bamarsha]

fixed how?

You can't stay on the highways!

LHP and JKT don't connect in many directions, you have to exit onto Memorial to make the connection. Going north, you can go east but not west. You can't go either direction going south. Going west, you can go south, but not north. You can't go either direction going east.