OU Football 2024 Season

[Bill Robertson]

Where does buyout money come from? Donors.

Where does coach money come from? Donors (in part).

Where does NIL money come from? Donors.

See the trend?

Do you have access to the accounting of any university to show how much donors pay for coaching costs vs how much the school pays out of non-donor funds?

Also, I just found this in an article in the Austin American-Statesman.
"Long gone are the days when money just came from booster donations and sales from tickets and merchandise.
Flip on what seems like any channel on a Fall Saturday, and you're likely to catch a college football game.
Conferences split the money from TV revenue evenly among member schools.
Last year, Big Ten schools made $54.3 million, SEC schools made $45.5 million, and Pac-12 schools made $33.6 million".

So that's $45.5 million that OU isn't getting this year because of the deal they made with the SEC. After next year there will be a lot more money available.

[bamarsha]

Do you have access to the accounting of any university to show how much donors pay for coaching costs vs how much the school pays out of non-donor funds?

Also, I just found this in an article in the Austin American-Statesman.
"Long gone are the days when money just came from booster donations and sales from tickets and merchandise.
Flip on what seems like any channel on a Fall Saturday, and you're likely to catch a college football game.
Conferences split the money from TV revenue evenly among member schools.
Last year, Big Ten schools made $54.3 million, SEC schools made $45.5 million, and Pac-12 schools made $33.6 million".

So that's $45.5 million that OU isn't getting this year because of the deal they made with the SEC. After next year there will be a lot more money available.

Not sure what you point is... Are you saying universities don't take money from donors for athletics? You may want to look that one up.

[kukblue1]

I am glad that the new acceptable standard is being slightly better than the John Blake and Schnelly years. Very high bar for a blue blood program. Without any contributors leaving the program, we need a difference maker qb, 2 wrs, 1 good rb, 2 tight ends and probably 3 o lineman that can start or compete for a spot.

Truth ! The landscape of college football has changed big time. You can't compare the past too now. Take Georgia they currently not in the playoffs. A new OC and a few good players won't cut it. You don't think Georgia doesn't have all that? IF anything don't play anyone. Be the Indiana and Byu of the world. IU hasn't played a conference team with a winning record. In the SEC that is impossible not too play some good teams. Bama has played 5 teams in the top 25. Georgia has played at Texas, at Alabama, At Mississippi and are currently out while Indiana best win is?

[Bill Robertson]

Not sure what you point is... Are you saying universities don't take money from donors for athletics? You may want to look that one up.

My point, which I backed up with a quote from someone who covers college sports for a living, is that you're wrong about donor money being substantially used for paying coaches. Of course schools take money from donors. But unless you can find substantial evidence that it goes towards coaches salaries and buyouts I'm going to go with that statement of an expert.

[PhiAlpha]

I know we were slow to the NIL game, but I *thought* I had heard that we stepped it up some and are now at least competitive.

We did but unfortunately with OL guys there’s a lag in the benefits being realized at the recruiting level. The OL class last year was good and if it stays together, even better this year…those guys just usually take 1-2 seasons to develop. We’ve had decent success with linemen in the portal until this year and missed on a few big names and whiffed on the guys we brought in. Got to hope someone like EPL is ready to go next year.

[Bill Robertson]

We did but unfortunately with OL guys there’s a lag in the benefits being realized at the recruiting level. The OL class last year was good and if it stays together, even better this year…those guys just usually take 1-2 seasons to develop. We’ve had decent success with linemen in the portal until this year and missed on a few big names and whiffed on the guys we brought in. Got to hope someone like EPL is ready to go next year.

The o-line next year should be much better. It couldn't be much worse. I think all the doom & gloomers would be shocked at how good this OU team would have been with an o-line like Texas's. No other changes and this offense would have been much better.

[bamarsha]

My point, which I backed up with a quote from someone who covers college sports for a living, is that you're wrong about donor money being substantially used for paying coaches. Of course schools take money from donors. But unless you can find substantial evidence that it goes towards coaches salaries and buyouts I'm going to go with that statement of an expert.

Didn't realize I had to cite sources for this, thought it was common knowledge... guess not. Let me know if you need more sources. To summarize:
The money to buy out a college coach's contract primarily comes from a university's athletic department budget, which is largely funded by donations from wealthy "boosters," television rights deals, ticket sales, and conference payouts, meaning the money essentially comes from a combination of private donors and revenue generated by the athletic program itself.

https://www.sportico.com/leagues/col...ut-1234689739/

https://www.brickergraydon.com/insig...s%20for%20more.

https://dailytrojan.com/2022/10/11/m...a%20standstill.

[Bill Robertson]

Didn't realize I had to cite sources for this, thought it was common knowledge... guess not. Let me know if you need more sources. To summarize:
The money to buy out a college coach's contract primarily comes from a university's athletic department budget, which is largely funded by donations from wealthy "boosters," television rights deals, ticket sales, and conference payouts, meaning the money essentially comes from a combination of private donors and revenue generated by the athletic program itself.

https://www.sportico.com/leagues/col...ut-1234689739/

https://www.brickergraydon.com/insig...s%20for%20more.

https://dailytrojan.com/2022/10/11/m...a%20standstill.

Ok. You can come up with articles backing your point. I can come up with a good number of articles backing my position. Let's call it a draw and move on to more important things.

[MagzOK]

Ok. You can come up with articles backing your point. I can come up with a good number of articles backing my position. Let's call it a draw and move on to more important things.

You're right, BR. The Sports Animal was talking about this very thing yesterday and they specifically said that they've been talking to people within the program and that if they wanted to buy out BV's contract they could move money around to make it happen. These are OU insiders and I'd take them at their word.

[bamarsha]

You're right, BR. The Sports Animal was talking about this very thing yesterday and they specifically said that they've been talking to people within the program and that if they wanted to buy out BV's contract they could move money around to make it happen. These are OU insiders and I'd take them at their word.

And where do you think that money comes from? Ticket sales only? Wrong. TV contract only? Wrong. It comes from ticket sales, TV deals, donors, and several other sources. Once that money is in the athletic budget, they can move it pretty much wherever they want, so at least that much is true.

[MagzOK]

And where do you think that money comes from? Ticket sales only? Wrong. TV contract only? Wrong. It comes from ticket sales, TV deals, donors, and several other sources. Once that money is in the athletic budget, they can move it pretty much wherever they want, so at least that much is true.

Well, Duh. I'm just commenting that OU could buy out BV's contact if they so desired.

[bamarsha]

Well, Duh. I'm just commenting that OU could buy out BV's contact if they so desired.

Oh, the way you worded it, I thought you were agreeing with BR that donor's money never goes to coaches in any form or fashion.

[Bill Robertson]

Oh, the way you worded it, I thought you were agreeing with BR that donor's money never goes to coaches in any form or fashion.

If you took what I said that way I didn't word well. I didn't mean no donor money pays coaches. I meant that it's not the way coaches get paid.

[bamarsha]

If you took what I said that way I didn't word well. I didn't mean no donor money pays coaches. I meant that it's not the way coaches get paid.

Well, of course donors do not pay the coach's salary or buy-out directly. But a good chuck of buy-outs (especially the massive ones) typically come from donors (or gets moved from something else that suffers for it), via the athletic budget.

[BoulderSooner]

Well, of course donors do not pay the coach's salary or buy-out directly. .

in lots of cases the BMD (Big money donors) pledge money to the school DIRECTLY to pay for coaches salary's

[bamarsha]

in lots of cases the BMD (Big money donors) pledge money to the school DIRECTLY to pay for coaches salary's

Exactly, same with coach's buy-outs. For that matter, same with new/renovated stadium costs. One of the more recent big examples at OU was Love's donating to the athletic department for the singular purpose of a softball stadium. It didn't cover everything, but helped significantly (probably wouldn't have been built without the donation).