Huge Mixed-Use Development for Waterloo Rd.

[mugofbeer]

Some newish images from here: https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/I-35...-OK/24518722/:

That interchange is really going to take some getting used to!

[Hollywood]

That interchange is really going to take some getting used to!

There's one in Joplin where Range Line meets the 44 and it took a bit of getting used to with only our weekly grocery trips up there... now, I don't even notice it.

[Pete]

Isn't that intersection pretty much the same design as Lindsey & I-35 in Norman?

If so, it works great.

[MagzOK]

Isn't that intersection pretty much the same design as Lindsey & I-35 in Norman?

If so, it works great.

Single Point Diverging Interchange is what is at I35/Lindsay and I40/Morgan. The design at Waterloo is a Diverging Diamond interchange. They are of the same family but are different. Both are very effective.

Diverging Diamond:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd5AatLWvcg

Single Point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHoYCDGlXxM

I will say that street signage and pavement markings are crucial, and we know how much ODOT and the city keep up with pavement markings. . .

[Zorba]

42 mil project happening next year

My Bubby designed this ~10 years ago. It was the first DDI planned for Oklahoma. Since then they bid, designed, and built the one on 169 and memorial in Tulsa, which my buddy also designed. It'll be nice when it is finally built.

[Zorba]

That interchange is really going to take some getting used to!

Literally all you have to do is follow the road. First time I went through one I didn't even think about it, until after I had went all the way through and then I realized "Hey, that was DDI."

[BoulderSooner]

My Bubby designed this ~10 years ago. It was the first DDI planned for Oklahoma. Since then they bid, designed, and built the one on 169 and memorial in Tulsa, which my buddy also designed. It'll be nice when it is finally built.

that is really cool ...... DDI's are a great option in a lot of circumstances ..

[mugofbeer]

Isn't that intersection pretty much the same design as Lindsey & I-35 in Norman?

If so, it works great.

The one in Norman never has traffic driving on what we perceive as the wrong side of the road the way this one will. It's more of an elongated "'X." Frequent users will get used to it but it will be kind of odd for a while.

[Silvershoes]

When is the road work on this intersection going to be full go ?

[Pete]

[juhobra]

Any idea when the work on the interchange will begin? I assume further development here will be slow until that work is underway or at least has a timeline.

[Pete]

This is an updated site plan that shows a 7-11 and McDonald's.

[juhobra]

It looks like they are doing a lot of work in the area labeled single family. Braum's also has the foundation set for the water tank they need. Hopefully, that means they will be opening early next year.

[MagzOK]

It looks like they are doing a lot of work in the area labeled single family. Braum's also has the foundation set for the water tank they need. Hopefully, that means they will be opening early next year.

Do you know what this water tank is for? I don't understand what the holdup has been here.

[Hollywood]

Do you know what this water tank is for? I don't understand what the holdup has been here.

We were talking about it at work and someone mentioned that the well didn’t have enough pressure to support the fire suppression system.

[oklip955]

This addition's water line is an 8 in coming off of Sorghum Mill and Douglas, up Douglas and then west along Waterloo. I dont know if it ties into the rest of Logan County Rural Water District # 2 lines coming down Sooner. I tried to do a rough hydraulic calculation. I just could not see how that water line was going to work for all this. I could understand going 12 in. The problem is not enough pressure to run the fire sprinkler system. Understand that this is not in a city, so it is most likely that Braums insurance company is the one making them do this. I think Starbuck does have a fire sprinkler system but the store has a smaller foot print which effects the sprinkler system design. I am guessing that Braums took a standard store design and built it then figured out the water supply would not supply the fire sprinkler system. No city or agency to over see this in the planning stage. Opsy.

[Pete]

[jdross1982]

Not a fan of the additional curb cuts to each of the restaurants instead of driving traffic to the main entrance and exits that all connect to the back of each of these properties.

[The]

Not a fan of the additional curb cuts to each of the restaurants instead of driving traffic to the main entrance and exits that all connect to the back of each of these properties.

A classic Oklahoma problem. It's awful design.

[Zorba]

Not a fan of the additional curb cuts to each of the restaurants instead of driving traffic to the main entrance and exits that all connect to the back of each of these properties.

We have to make sure that we destroy our road investments for tiny benefits to these businesses. Just wait until half of them have lights too!

[oklip955]

This is in unincorporated Logan county. That area has one rule as far as zoning ect. The rule is that there are no rules. No zoning and no authority overseeing development. Just go build what you want.