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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Those schools have been getting the big SEC money for decades and also built those facilities before hundreds of millions had to be steered to NIL.

    Completely different situations.
    The Southeastern Conference's media deals have been roughly the same as those of the other conferences until relatively recently. If I recall correctly, OU had been collecting more media-deal revenue as a Big 12 member than it otherwise would have as a member of a different athletic conference, as Big 12 member institutions uniquely retained their "Tier-3" media rights (hence having football games exclusively on a pay-per-view channel).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaac C. Parker View Post
    The Southeastern Conference's media deals have been roughly the same as those of the other conferences until relatively recently. If I recall correctly, OU had been collecting more media-deal revenue as a Big 12 member than it otherwise would have as a member of a different athletic conference, as Big 12 member institutions uniquely retained their "Tier-3" media rights (hence having football games exclusively on a pay-per-view channel).
    this is correct OU was getting almost the same (recent years ) or more money then the SEC (the 5 years before that) ... Texas was getting far more (do to the LHN ) ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaac C. Parker View Post
    The Southeastern Conference's media deals have been roughly the same as those of the other conferences until relatively recently. If I recall correctly, OU had been collecting more media-deal revenue as a Big 12 member than it otherwise would have as a member of a different athletic conference, as Big 12 member institutions uniquely retained their "Tier-3" media rights (hence having football games exclusively on a pay-per-view channel).
    Sec media deal has been about 25% more than B12 and will see a gigantic increase now. OU will get way more in SEC than B12

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    Sec media deal has been about 25% more than B12 and will see a gigantic increase now. OU will get way more in SEC than B12
    but that didn't take into account the OU and texas 3rd tier deals .. which are both substantial ..

    in 22-23 OU got 44 million from the Big 12 + 7ish from ESPN so over 50 mil the sec was 51 mil ... texas was at 59 mil that same year .. (15 million for LHN) ...

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    Any update on what is going into the old Logan's location? I remember it brought up before but can't find the post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acumpton View Post
    Any update on what is going into the old Logan's location? I remember it brought up before but can't find the post.
    I believe it is going to be Green Turtle: https://thegreeneturtle.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    but that didn't take into account the OU and texas 3rd tier deals .. which are both substantial ..

    in 22-23 OU got 44 million from the Big 12 + 7ish from ESPN so over 50 mil the sec was 51 mil ... texas was at 59 mil that same year .. (15 million for LHN) ...
    Both will be getting substantially more in SEC than in B12. Fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    Both will be getting substantially more in SEC than in B12. Fact.
    yes they will going forward .. that is why they switched but the SEC new espn deal .. just started this season ..


    in the past 10 years the sec has not really made more tv money

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    yes they will going forward .. that is why they switched but the SEC new espn deal .. just started this season ..


    in the past 10 years the sec has not really made more tv money
    Not sure what you are arguing for or about. SEC has outpaced the B12 for awhile. B12 was bolstered by OU and UT and now that is gone and added to SEC so gap continues to widen.
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    And, if you want to look at total revenue per schools, look at the SEC schools vs B12 and see the HUGE differences in revenue and budgets. https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances

    It is undeniable that the SEC has been more financially successful for awhile and will be bolstered by OU & UT. The B!2 was very much supported by OU & UT's membership and will be hurt with their leaving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    Not sure what you are arguing for or about. SEC has outpaced the B12 for awhile. B12 was bolstered by OU and UT and now that is gone and added to SEC so gap continues to widen.
    Navigate-projections-768x413.jpg

    And, if you want to look at total revenue per schools, look at the SEC schools vs B12 and see the HUGE differences in revenue and budgets. https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances

    It is undeniable that the SEC has been more financially successful for awhile and will be bolstered by OU & UT. The B!2 was very much supported by OU & UT's membership and will be hurt with their leaving.
    no one is arguing going forward ..

    but in the past .. the 3rd tier tv contract of OU (9 mil +/-) and texas (15 mil) .. kept them around or in texas case well above the SEC ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    no one is arguing going forward ..

    but in the past .. the 3rd tier tv contract of OU (9 mil +/-) and texas (15 mil) .. kept them around or in texas case well above the SEC ..
    So, what's your point? OU and UT will do well wherever they are. But they will do best in the SEC for the time being. And, OU & UT knew there would be a ceiling on what they could earn in the B12 and know that ceiling is much higher in the SEC. That is why they left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    So, what's your point? OU and UT will do well wherever they are. But they will do best in the SEC for the time being. And, OU & UT knew there would be a ceiling on what they could earn in the B12 and know that ceiling is much higher in the SEC. That is why they left.
    if you read the thread there was a comment that the SEC was ahead in facilities because of their TV money gap over OU >...

    that is what i was responding too .

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    ^ This. The claim refuted was Ole Miss and other SEC schools were making big SEC money for decades. Not what is going on NOW.

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