Clarity Coffee

[2Lanez]

I always loved the coffee shop/beer concept that stays open until 2am. I used to go to Vagabond in Wichita when I lived there and I'd stay until 2am all the time. There'd be a table of people drinking next to a table of people studying. It's a great concept that I don't know why isn't more common.

Wouldn't our liquor laws would make this difficult/unrealistic? I don't think anyone under 21 can even walk in a bar area. So either the coffee counter and bar are separated (would need a lot of space/buildout to do this), or if you had kids with you, you'd need to leave them somewhere when you went up to order. 18-20 year old college students would be SOL.

[Pete]

Wouldn't our liquor laws would make this difficult/unrealistic? I don't think anyone under 21 can even walk in a bar area. So either the coffee counter and bar are separated (would need a lot of space/buildout to do this), or if you had kids with you, you'd need to leave them somewhere when you went up to order. 18-20 year old college students would be SOL.

Under 21's can go into a bar area unless it's designated as adults only or is designated as ABC-3, which means they derive most their revenue from alcohol as opposed to food.

I would think a coffee establishment could work around those issues.

[sooner88]

Under 21's can go into a bar area unless it's designated as adults only or is designated as ABC-3, which means they derive most their revenue from alcohol as opposed to food.

I would think a coffee establishment could work around those issues.

District House already does this (not a full bar), so it definitely can be done.

[Pete]

^

Right! Always forget about them.

[Urbanized]

I think District House is 3.2 only. That said, if ABC-2 youngsters could come inside, they just could not sit at bar. R&J is an example of a place that TOTALLY feels like a bar, but kids can and sometimes do come in. That said, I think there might have to be some workaround plan for ordering coffee from behind bar, as Oklahoma law would not allow underage to be AT the bar itself.

And, BTW, Vagabond is awesome.

[dankrutka]

The key is hitting the right vibe so a coffee place feels like a bar also. A lot of coffee places carry beer, but don't at all feel like a bar or attract people looking to have a drink. Anyway, I wish this concept was more common. I live within one block of four coffee shops that all close at 11pm -- one even has a full bar, but I wish one stayed open later. Besides, once I am close to finishing working I like to switch from coffee to beer.

[2Lanez]

Under 21's can go into a bar area unless it's designated as adults only or is designated as ABC-3, which means they derive most their revenue from alcohol as opposed to food.

I would think a coffee establishment could work around those issues.

I don't think this is right. I bartended at an ABC-2 place back in the day. Even if the entire restaurant area was full, we couldn't allow couples with a baby to sit in the bar area. Go into any restaurant really, and there is signage that says "Must be 21 to enter" around the bar area.

I think District House is 3.2 only. That said, if ABC-2 youngsters could come inside, they just could not sit at bar. R&J is an example of a place that TOTALLY feels like a bar, but kids can and sometimes do come in. That said, I think there might have to be some workaround plan for ordering coffee from behind bar, as Oklahoma law would not allow underage to be AT the bar itself.

Can't sit at the bar, can't approach the bar, can't even be in the area. Could come inside the building, but there would need to be a designated bar "area" (defined surely by some ridiculous, dubious legalese) that is 21+ only. Basically, like I said in my last post, the bar would need to be separate from the regular ordering counter where everyone else ordered, OR, like R&J, have servers that tend the table sections. McNellie's would be another example of this set-up. But coffee shops rarely have servers...

[Urbanized]

^^^^^^
Restrictions have eased a bit in that bars are no longer required to have railings around them with "nobody under 21 in this area of these premises..." signs prominently displayed. But you and I are in agreement, and correct. A minor in Oklahoma is forbidden from approaching, sitting at or ordering from a bar area where liquor is stored/poured/served. Or, more precisely, establishments are forbidden from ALLOWING them to do so. This would preclude minors from ordering coffee from behind the same bar, regardless of the time of day.

Honestly, seems like the best workaround would be a separate coffee bar, similar to the way Kitchen 324 has a coffee bar separate from its order counter.

[sixkiller]

Does anyone know how Chimera works in Tulsa? Full bar, great coffee, thoughtful food. Chimera is the #1 thing I want to import from Tulsa.

[borchard]

Just came to Clarity for the first time. Nice atmosphere. Great pour over of Burundi Mpanga. WIll definitely come back. One other plus in their favor, it's not hot as satan's nutsack, like Slingers seems to always be

[dankrutka]

Does anyone know how Chimera works in Tulsa? Full bar, great coffee, thoughtful food. Chimera is the #1 thing I want to import from Tulsa.

The Phoenix in Tulsa also has a few beer taps (although the place just feels like a coffee shop with beer to me), but you order coffee and beer from the same place. I'm pretty sure minors are allowed and can order... maybe not.

[FritterGirl]

Evoke in Edmond kept late hours when they first opened, and would show the Thunder games or other events. I was pretty bummed when they started closing at 7, since bars aren't always my night-time groove.

I've been watching and waiting for Clarity to open and have to say I'm not at all disappointed. It's nice to finally see the "WeHud (West of Hudson) part of downtown taking shape, and with Clarity right across the street from my office, I'm a pretty happy gal.

[Pete]

[QUOTE=FritterGirl;925283] "WeHud (West of Hudson) /QUOTE]

Is this a thing now??

Or perhaps we should try and make it happen.


Glad to hear the positive reviews about this place because the owner, Steve Willingham, is a good dude.

[borchard]

Been posting up here a few times a week lately. Really like the feel, AND the coffee!

[Just the facts]

"WeHud (West of Hudson)

Is this a thing now??

Or perhaps we should try and make it happen.


Glad to hear the positive reviews about this place because the owner, Steve Willingham, is a good dude.

Sorry, this is already called the Parking District.

[shawnw]

As was posted in the Wheeler thread, second Clarity location going into Wheeler, see that thread for deets

[OkieBerto]

Clarity Coffee made a post on their Instagram that they will be opening a third Location in Midtown in the old Sincerely Coffee spot. This is right next to Commonplace Books.