University Town Center

[OklahomaNick]

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Saw some updated marketing materials for the next phase of University Town Center.

[FighttheGoodFight]

Still just the Main Event on there like the older one, or am I missing something?

[BoulderSooner]

once the money is encumbered .. I am not sure that it can be overturned ..

today is the day

public hearing is scheduled for 5pm

the special meeting with the vote is scheduled for 6:30pm

link to watch

https://youtu.be/HAcIFo8Mzlc

[BG918]

Yay a new arena next to a strip mall, paid for by diverting $600M from the City of Norman's general fund! If this passes and you live in Norman you should be livid.

[bison34]

Yay a new arena next to a strip mall, paid for by diverting $600M from the City of Norman's general fund! If this passes and you live in Norman you should be livid.

no one is beating down the doors to build an arena with any private money anywhere else in Norman. Is it an ideal situation, no. But it is the only way OU gets a new arena, which is needed for OU, given how terrible the LNC is.

[CaptDave]

More boxes in a sea of asphalt......the typical overpromise and under-deliver state of affairs.

[bison34]

More boxes in a sea of asphalt......the typical overpromise and under-deliver state of affairs.

I truly hope you hadn't held out hope for a lifestyle center. That was dead years and years ago. Heck, this area was under trees for a decade.

The overpromise and under-deliver was a thing 15 years ago, when the lifestyle was declared dead. Now it is a "better this than nothing" thing.

[CaptDave]

I truly hope you hadn't held out hope for a lifestyle center. That was dead years and years ago. Heck, this area was under trees for a decade.

Oh no, I didn't have any of those delusions. I know better. Lol.

But seeing places like OAK gives hope that maybe future projects will be done to a higher standard. At least more of them. It's going to take time to leave the ingrained tendency toward cheap and easy behind. I just hate seeing this sort of thing perpetuated when developers, residents, and local government knows what right looks like. I think we should collectively have higher expectations for the place we live and stop settling.

[Jersey Boss]

no one is beating down the doors to build an arena with any private money anywhere else in Norman. Is it an ideal situation, no. But it is the only way OU gets a new arena, which is needed for OU, given how terrible the LNC is.

It is not the responsibility or obligation of the City of Norman to fund a facility for the benefit of the state. The legislature and OU are ignoring their responsibility for state infrastructure.
Joe H, Joe C, and the legislature need to take care of their house.

[Jake]

More boxes in a sea of asphalt......the typical overpromise and under-deliver state of affairs.

Enough parking for maybe two Pappadeaux restaurants.

[BoulderSooner]

Yay a new arena next to a strip mall, paid for by diverting $600M from the City of Norman's general fund! If this passes and you live in Norman you should be livid.

Nothing like lies. This diverts 0.00 dollars from the general fund

[bison34]

Nothing like lies. This diverts 0.00 dollars from the general fund

I mean, it does keep money from thr general fund (since they will be missing out on taxes from the development for a bit).

[PhiAlpha]

Holy crap. It's almost 1 AM and the meeting is still going.

https://www.youtube.com/live/HAcIFo8Mzlc

[PhiAlpha]

Passed at 1:15. Still voting on other issues surrounding it.

[bison34]

I hope that they don't bring to the people. This meeting was long enough. And if you heard some of the stupidity coming from citizens in the meeting last night, then you know what I mean.

[Prunesmoothie]

Who/what decides that it gets voted on by Norman residents?

[BoulderSooner]

Who/what decides that it gets voted on by Norman residents?

initiative petition

[Pete]

[FighttheGoodFight]

I'm sure we will see legal challenges over the next few years. We will see where it goes in the end.

[josefromtulsa]

The image is missing a discount tire and an office depot to really drive home the luxury aspect.

I wish I could find the original renderings of the UNP development to compare to how it came out.

[Rover]

The image is missing a discount tire and an office depot to really drive home the luxury aspect.

I wish I could find the original renderings of the UNP development to compare to how it came out.

Was this ever sold as a "Luxury" development? Where actually is there a "luxury" development in Norman.

[jn1780]

The image is missing a discount tire and an office depot to really drive home the luxury aspect.

I wish I could find the original renderings of the UNP development to compare to how it came out.

Or the CarMax which is directly across the street from where this new entertainment district is going.

[JoeMNeal]

The image is missing a discount tire and an office depot to really drive home the luxury aspect.

I wish I could find the original renderings of the UNP development to compare to how it came out.

Here is the website of the developer. The stores they work with really scream "upscale development"

https://www.rainiercompanies.com/pro...5251647=8&pg=2

[bison34]

Or the CarMax which is directly across the street from where this new entertainment district is going.

But yeah, organic development will happen here. Lol. Hasn't for 15 years, won't without this TIF. But I also get the other side.

[Pete]